[REPORTED]IFLOS Not Stabilized

hein22 · May 23, 2020

Already reported the ICLS not being properly simulated in terms of earth reference stabilization but now I found out that the IFLOS also suffers the same issue. Attached a track.

IFLOS not stabilized.trk

hein22 · May 30, 2020

Any news?

hein22 · June 7, 2020

Friendly Bump

hein22 · July 30, 2020

ED: this system cannot be in this state for a super module. Any news?

TonyG · August 10, 2020

ED: this system cannot be in this state for a super module. Any news?

It's not a super module. It's just a regular module of a SuperCarrier.

Ahmed · August 15, 2020

It's not a super module. It's just a regular module of a SuperCarrier.

Nevertheless, it would be great to get an official acknowledgment of whether this is accepted as a bug and is going to get fixed or not.

hein22 · August 19, 2020

So they fixed the ICLS stabilization issue but the IFLOS bug is still present.

hein22 · September 23, 2020

Hello hello. Any news about the IFLOS?

hein22 · November 23, 2020

Half a year after the report, I wanted to ask if this is still on the plans to fix? In august ED fixed the ICLS part of this bug, but the IFLOS is still affected.

THanks.

RaiderOne · November 24, 2020

Half a year after the report, I wanted to ask if this is still on the plans to fix? In august ED fixed the ICLS part of this bug, but the IFLOS is still affected.

THanks.

Apparently ... no one is working anymore on the Supercarrier completion since months !?! :cry:

Ziptie · November 24, 2020

@BIGNEWY

or

@NineLine

Any input on this thread for the OP - seems as though he's followed his suspected bug for quite some time and being patient. Figured it was worth a shot tagging you to try for assistance.

Cheers,

Ziptie

BIGNEWY · November 25, 2020

Sorry for completely overlooking this thread, can you explain to me in simple terms what is the problem here, I maybe missing the point.

thanks

hein22 · November 25, 2020

Sorry for completely overlooking this thread, can you explain to me in simple terms what is the problem here, I maybe missing the point.

thanks

Hey! Sure no problem.

Both ICLS and IFLOS are mounted on torsion bars so the pitch of the boat won't affect the angle at which the beam (ICLS) or light (IFLOS) projects.

The ICLS was fixed already in an august OB patch. I know ED wrote "roll" but they fixed the pitch part.

ICLS is not stabilized. If ship rolls on waves ICLS bar swings together with deck - fixed

But the IFLOS still moves along with the axis of the deck, which is incorrect as the torsion bar makes a unique earth referenced angle.

I do not know what is the maximum angle the torsion bar can compensate, as it is not magic and if the carrier pitches like hell there may be some degree of deviations in the actual angle, but the devs surely know.

maxTRX · November 25, 2020

Hey! Sure no problem.

Both ICLS and IFLOS are mounted on torsion bars so the pitch of the boat won't affect the angle at which the beam (ICLS) or light (IFLOS) projects.

The ICLS was fixed already in an august OB patch. I know ED wrote "roll" but they fixed the pitch part.

But the IFLOS still moves along with the axis of the deck, which is incorrect as the torsion bar makes a unique earth referenced angle.

I do not know what is the maximum angle the torsion bar can compensate, as it is not magic and if the carrier pitches like hell there may be some degree of deviations in the actual angle, but the devs surely know.

I wanted to see it for myself so I set the WOD 65 knots. The boat was pitching more then I hoped for:huh: and I was so hypnotized with the deck movement that I failed to see any difference between the ICLS glideslope and the ball. From what I can tell the ball had similar deviations to what ICLS was showing. Both were hitting their limits in my opinion. It is a hell of an improvement from few months ago.

I flew with half flaps on a 3.5 deg. GS (the only option we have) in conditions well above my skill level... should've been a wave-off!

I posted a clip, perhaps you can see more then I could as far as FLOLS v ICLS goes. The first 1 min. shows the approach, second part shows me launching from cat3. The shot looked as if in slow motion.

I'll try more realistic conditions later on. In stable approach I should be able to see the ball better.

hein22 · November 26, 2020

I wanted to see it for myself so I set the WOD 65 knots. The boat was pitching more then I hoped for:huh: and I was so hypnotized with the deck movement that I failed to see any difference between the ICLS glideslope and the ball. From what I can tell the ball had similar deviations to what ICLS was showing. Both were hitting their limits in my opinion. It is a hell of an improvement from few months ago.
I flew with half flaps on a 3.5 deg. GS (the only option we have) in conditions well above my skill level... should've been a wave-off!
I posted a clip, perhaps you can see more then I could as far as FLOLS v ICLS goes. The first 1 min. shows the approach, second part shows me launching from cat3. The shot looked as if in slow motion.
I'll try more realistic conditions later on. In stable approach I should be able to see the ball better.

ICLS was the only change there was. IFLOS behaves the same since supercarrier day 1. You can even use the stennis and see the difference (stennis has the torsion bars modeled).

Only way of trying is F2 view steady, let the boat pitch and see the ball move heavily.

Funny enough, the stennis has the IFLOS working correctly but the ICLS bugged. Supercarrier has the ICLS working correctly but IFLOS bugged. :joystick:

maxTRX · November 26, 2020

ICLS was the only change there was. IFLOS behaves the same since supercarrier day 1. You can even use the stennis and see the difference (stennis has the torsion bars modeled).

Only way of trying is F2 view steady, let the boat pitch and see the ball move heavily.

Funny enough, the stennis has the IFLOS working correctly but the ICLS bugged. Supercarrier has the ICLS working correctly but IFLOS bugged. :joystick:

I bet when the FLOS on SC gets stabilized, the one on Stennis will stop compensating...

Anyway, I saw the discrepancy on my follow up flight. 40 knots down the angle.

hein22 · November 26, 2020

I bet when the FLOS on SC gets stabilized, the one on Stennis will stop compensating...
Anyway, I saw the discrepancy on my follow up flight. 40 knots down the angle.

Lol, hehe.

Yeah, I know that for us to see an actual difference there has to be winds that comes from hell rather than a cardinal point, but it still is worth the report. :)

hein22 · November 26, 2020

@BIGNEWY the explanation requested is here https://forums.eagle.ru/forum/english/digital-combat-simulator/dcs-supercarrier/bugs-and-problems-bl/276998-investigating-iflos-not-stabilized#post7152557

BIGNEWY · November 26, 2020

I have seen it thank you, still investigating

hein22 · December 14, 2020

On 11/26/2020 at 4:23 PM, BIGNEWY said:

I have seen it thank you, still investigating

Hallo! Did you hear back from the team?

NineLine · December 14, 2020

Hey Hein, when we hear back we will update the thread, no need to bump it. Thanks.

BIGNEWY · December 14, 2020

I have reported to the team for checking, I can not say if this is a bug or not currently,

When I get some feedback I will reopen the thread and reply.

thanks

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