Oldfox Posted July 27, 2020 Posted July 27, 2020 Hi, Not sure if this has always been like this as before I was slewing TGP with hat buttons. Now I have a Warthog throttle with upgraded slew, using analog slew axis X and Y, the TGP moves really really harsh, it's not smooth at all even when using small inputs and makes it hard to aim at anything if using some zoom. Cursor is working perfectly if slewing on the TAD screen for example so don't think it's an input issue on my side. Thanks for the help!
Stuka Posted July 27, 2020 Posted July 27, 2020 Standard the TGP slew is a bit snappy. Way better with the upgraded slew stick. Below are my axis settings (same for Y axis). If required, the smoothness still can be tuned on the stats page in the cockpit. Windows 11 | i9 12900KF | 64GB DDR4 | RTX 3090 | TM Warthog HOTAS | Saitek Combat Rudder Pedals | TM MFDs + Lilliput 8" | TIR5 Pro
Oldfox Posted July 27, 2020 Author Posted July 27, 2020 My slew is already upgraded and perfectly smooth for everything except A10 TGP :(
Biga42 Posted July 29, 2020 Posted July 29, 2020 I recently noticed a difficulty when slewing on the y-axis, I thought there could be some problem with the axis of my joystick, now that you mention it, maybe it is some problem with the recent patch...
Oldfox Posted July 30, 2020 Author Posted July 30, 2020 Well it actually is pretty difficult to point exactly on a tank in full zoom.... I think it would be easier using a digital hat, which is non sense. Feels like it could be some numerical rounding issues regarding coordinates.... Will try to make a video to show you how bad it actually is.
Oldfox Posted July 30, 2020 Author Posted July 30, 2020 (edited) Ok here's a quick view of what happens using analog axis slew on the A10 for me. Am I the only one in this case? Happens when zoomed, in wide angle or when using other sensors the slew axis is perfectly smooth. Edited July 30, 2020 by Oldfox
Stuka Posted July 31, 2020 Posted July 31, 2020 Maybe reset your bindings ? See if that helps. Definitely not seeing that behavior here, or heard from others they have it. Windows 11 | i9 12900KF | 64GB DDR4 | RTX 3090 | TM Warthog HOTAS | Saitek Combat Rudder Pedals | TM MFDs + Lilliput 8" | TIR5 Pro
Oldfox Posted July 31, 2020 Author Posted July 31, 2020 (edited) Well I have nothing special in my bindings, slew axis is cleared from all other controllers, and working perfectly for any other function appart from TGP slew when zoomed. TAD cursor is moving smoothly as well as HUD cursor. I can still map it to a different analog joystick to compare the behavior but for now looks like a real bug to me. I am using triple screens for information if it ever has any link with the issue. Edited July 31, 2020 by Oldfox
Oldfox Posted July 31, 2020 Author Posted July 31, 2020 Just tried cleaning everything in bindings. Using a saitek joystick as slew control. If I zoom in full, the closest I am under the plane, the more it stutters. It's like it's trying to constantly area lock. Tried using just digital slew and it's actually same behaviour. I can't be the only one having this !!?? Tried to render in 1 screen instead of 3 and no luck.
Dr_Arrow Posted July 31, 2020 Posted July 31, 2020 Oldfox: I have the same issue, when zoomed in the movement is jerky as in your video. I am also using Warthog HOTAS, TGP slew works ok when zoomed out, when zoomed in it is very jumpy. I always thought that it is a feature :)
Oldfox Posted August 21, 2020 Author Posted August 21, 2020 (edited) Here's a track from instant action mission: the closer I get, more difficult it is to aim TGP view.tgpStutterst.trk Edited August 21, 2020 by Oldfox
Oldfox Posted September 15, 2020 Author Posted September 15, 2020 So I'm the only one having that much trouble with TGP sight?
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted September 17, 2020 ED Team Posted September 17, 2020 Seems fine for me, I am using a warthog throttle Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, PIMAX Crystal
Torri Posted September 17, 2020 Posted September 17, 2020 (edited) I have the same issue, it's not hardware related. Or if it is, it has to be a problem with how the TGP reacts to slew curve changes. All other slewing operations work perfectly fine and smooth, using the same slew joystick. I think it lies in the TGP tracking logic, as all TGPs across the game suffers from the same issue. (F-16, F-18.) The issue is when the TGP is zoomed in and off angle from the plane. Trying to slew it makes it jerky, as if it's "sticking" to the prior location. The same effect can be observed when using any pod in the A/A tracking mode. (Even F-14's TCS has this issue.) Edited September 17, 2020 by Torri98
Oldfox Posted September 18, 2020 Author Posted September 18, 2020 Seems fine for me, I am using a warthog throttle Weird.... Can a DEV just check my attached track? I think it shows the issue pretty well. Really looks like a bug to me.
Oldfox Posted September 18, 2020 Author Posted September 18, 2020 I have the same issue, it's not hardware related. Or if it is, it has to be a problem with how the TGP reacts to slew curve changes. All other slewing operations work perfectly fine and smooth, using the same slew joystick. I think it lies in the TGP tracking logic, as all TGPs across the game suffers from the same issue. (F-16, F-18.) The issue is when the TGP is zoomed in and off angle from the plane. Trying to slew it makes it jerky, as if it's "sticking" to the prior location. The same effect can be observed when using any pod in the A/A tracking mode. (Even F-14's TCS has this issue.) So I'm not dreaming :) Not sure about the slew curves as I think I had the same behavior using slew button instead of an axis. Could you double check? Thanks!
Torri Posted September 18, 2020 Posted September 18, 2020 So I'm not dreaming :) Not sure about the slew curves as I think I had the same behavior using slew button instead of an axis. Could you double check? Thanks! I could probably double check with buttons instead of axis, but I am 99% certain that the issue lies with the area/point track logic.
Oldfox Posted September 21, 2020 Author Posted September 21, 2020 I could probably double check with buttons instead of axis, but I am 99% certain that the issue lies with the area/point track logic. That or numerical imprecision when computing TGP angles resulting in jerky movements at high zoom values.
Oldfox Posted November 10, 2020 Author Posted November 10, 2020 Exact same behavior in A10 II :( Will post a new track in dedicateds section again.
Nealius Posted March 28, 2021 Posted March 28, 2021 Getting the same here. Seems to happen more often in NARO and when I haven't cleaned the fxo folder.
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