Set ladder to 5000, tank to 3000.

[FoxTwo]

ladder is... presumably bingo?

 

It shows up in a comm event in mission 2 ("Use F-10 radio menu to reply to STRIKE (low or ladder)") and again shows up in the mission 7 briefing and I'm not familiar with the term. It seems to mean something else in brevity so I'm trying to make sure I know exactly what we're talking about here.

 

Thanks

[5e EVC Chappy]

Fuel state above BINGO at which separation/bugout/event termination should begin is called Joker, not ladder.

 

 

Ladder means Three or more groups/contacts in range.

[FoxTwo]

Hence my confusion because it's referring to fuel state.

[baltic_dragon]

Hey. This is a term used for fuel state by naval aviators - I used it as Kevin insisted to include it, but probably for gaming purposes it would be better to use normal “joker” and “bingo”. Ladder is constantly updated fuel reserve depending on the situation etc that is close to USAF “joker”. I guess I will just update the kneeboard and use the latter :)

[Hog_No32]

Hey. This is a term used for fuel state by naval aviators - I used it as Kevin insisted to include it, but probably for gaming purposes it would be better to use normal “joker” and “bingo”. Ladder is constantly updated fuel reserve depending on the situation etc that is close to USAF “joker”. I guess I will just update the kneeboard and use the latter :)

 

When Kevin insisted „Ladder“ is used in naval aviation, I‘d appreciate we use it too.

 

From your response, BD, can I deduce that „Joker“ is a pure Air Force term and not used by naval aviators at all?

[FoxTwo]

I'd say keep it ladder just maybe add mission notes somewhere and/or add it to the Glossary in the guide (Joker is in there). It just wasn't documented and I couldn't find anything online when googling for it aside from the normal airforce brevity code.

 

Thanks!

[5e EVC Chappy]

Hey. This is a term used for fuel state by naval aviators - I used it as Kevin insisted to include it, but probably for gaming purposes it would be better to use normal “joker” and “bingo”. Ladder is constantly updated fuel reserve depending on the situation etc that is close to USAF “joker”. I guess I will just update the kneeboard and use the latter :)

 

 

Thanks. Guess I did not remember that from the novel. It's been almost a year since I've read it the first time! :)

[mongo52]

I vote keep ladder and it to the glossary.

[baltic_dragon]

Roger wilco!

[DutchCoolHand]

Roger wilco!

While on the topic of fuel state, I notice that when I call mother in general (not specific to this campaign) it reports a fuel state different than what I have. It might say fuel state 7.8 but I have 9,000 lbs left over. There is always a 1000 tp 1500 lbs difference.

 

Peter

[baltic_dragon]

Hey Peter, that is a question to ED and is related with the Supercarrier module - but I noticed that too happening from time to time.

[DutchCoolHand]

Hey Peter, that is a question to ED and is related with the Supercarrier module - but I noticed that too happening from time to time.

 

I understand Baltic, I was wondering if someone here knew

[sigfan86]

I understand Baltic, I was wondering if someone here knew

 

Did you have fuel left in your external tanks?

Perhaps the fuel call was relating to your internal fuel only?

[RomaniaK]

I understand the appeal to use USN only comms but most peoples and countries use the NATO brevety word, and ladder has a whole different meaning there unfortunately ...

[MacEwan]

I understand the appeal to use USN only comms but most peoples and countries use the NATO brevety word, and ladder has a whole different meaning there unfortunately ...

 

That's true but this campaign is simulating a US Naval deployment. I would say leave "ladder" as it is but provide a list of definitions of all terms used for the player to study beforehand.

[Hog_No32]

That's true but this campaign is simulating a US Naval deployment. I would say leave "ladder" as it is but provide a list of definitions of all terms used for the player to study beforehand.

 

Concur. The list already exists in the campaign user guide, LADDER just needs to be added in there. I‘m sure BD will do it when time and priorities will allow it.