F-22A Raptor mod enhancement mod

[SSP1]

В 13.02.2025 в 14:03, mrjay сказал:

Нет, в последний раз мой друг, мод grinelli и мод nightstorm не будут работать без мода F-15C. Может быть, кто-то другой вмешается и подтвердит это, потому что @SSP1 явно мне не верит

Могу ли я установить мод на F-22 без F-15? Я не понимаю как это будет выглядеть, деньги, которые я плачу за F-15, все равно пойдут в DCS, тот, кто сделал этот мод, вряд ли что-то получит. Ну и сам процесс оплаты мне тоже не понятен, откуда разработчик узнает, что я действительно купил F-15, нужно ли мне предоставлять ему сертификат от ED?

[mrjay]

5 hours ago, SSP1 said:

Могу ли я установить мод на F-22 без F-15? Я не понимаю как это будет выглядеть, деньги, которые я плачу за F-15, все равно пойдут в DCS, тот, кто сделал этот мод, вряд ли что-то получит. Ну и сам процесс оплаты мне тоже не понятен, откуда разработчик узнает, что я действительно купил F-15, нужно ли мне предоставлять ему сертификат от ED?

Mod F22A(and enhancement mod)  is a FREE MOD. Author of the mod Grinnelli doesn't get any money. Nightstorm author of the enhancement mod won't get the money either. Only ED for F-15C mod gets paid.

But as i said before ... F-22As avionics and flight model (SFM) are based on F-15C avionics and flight model. It means that that F-22A mod is using these parts of F-15C module.

So as I said before, You need F-15C module to get F-22A working.

That is the way.

Edited February 16 by mrjay

[Corrêa]

Very good night or good morning to everyone. I have some questions about the F22:
First: How do you drop nuclear bombs correctly? My Raptor always explodes when the bomb hits the ground
second: When releasing the bombs, where is the aim so we know where it will land? 
third: how to activate the autopilot?
Fourth: I recently managed to join a multiplayer server, however, with F22 singleplayer. And yes, I threw JDAMs at the server and destroyed targets. how was this possible?
Thank you for everyone's efforts in the project of this fantastic aircraft. I just have to thank each and every one of you

[SSP1]

В 08.02.2025 в 22:07, Nightstorm сказал:

#1: Загрузите и установите мод F22 v3 от GD здесь: F-22A - GrinnelliDesigns (Вы должны владеть F15C или новым 2024 Горячими скалами) По крайней мере, я не думаю, что это больше будет работать со старой версией, кто-нибудь поправит меня, если я ошибаюсь.

#2: Убедитесь, что он работает в игре как есть, выполнив тестовую миссию или что-то еще, чтобы запустить его.

#3: Загрузите версию мода для улучшения с первой страницы этой темы. Одиночная игра или Мультиплеер, если вы хотите оружие и т.д., одиночная игра.

#4: Распакуйте zip-файл и скопируйте его содержимое в .. \Saved Games\DCS\Mods\aircraft\F-22A с перезаписью того, что там есть.

Я также спрошу вас, как они узнают, есть ли у меня модуль горячих камней.

[Nightstorm]

2 hours ago, SSP1 said:

Я также спрошу вас, как они узнают, есть ли у меня модуль горячих камней.

F-22A - GrinnelliDesigns  It's required as was stated because the F22 is not a standalone/separate flight model.  It uses the F-15C avionics and flight model.  The requirement is listed on the page where you download the mod.  I don't know how else to answer that question.

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[Nightstorm]

13 hours ago, Corrêa said:

Very good night or good morning to everyone. I have some questions about the F22:
First: How do you drop nuclear bombs correctly? My Raptor always explodes when the bomb hits the ground
second: When releasing the bombs, where is the aim so we know where it will land? 
third: how to activate the autopilot?
Fourth: I recently managed to join a multiplayer server, however, with F22 singleplayer. And yes, I threw JDAMs at the server and destroyed targets. how was this possible?
Thank you for everyone's efforts in the project of this fantastic aircraft. I just have to thank each and every one of you

Good morning.  I'll just answer your questions as best I can like you asked them.

First:  Depending on the yield (how big) of a bomb you drop you have to either be pretty high or pretty far away for it not to kill you too.

Second:  The bombs were added to the F22 by me using the AIM-7 Sparrow missile code (Which the F-15C uses but the F-22A does not, so there is no air to ground bomb site or anything similar.  It was more of a fun thing to see if it could even be done.

Third:  I'd like to know the answer to this too.  The autopilot hasn't worked for me since the new version three of the F22 was released.  You used to be able to select from the UFC (which now does nothing) or bind it to a control, which also now does nothing.

Fourth:  Sever settings I would imagine.  I'm not very experienced in multi-player so I don't know for sure.

 

[SSP1]

3 минуты назад, Nightstorm сказал:

F-22A - GrinnelliDesigns Это необходимо, как было заявлено, потому что F22 не является самостоятельной/отдельной летной моделью. В нем используется авионика F-15C и летная модель. Требование указано на странице, где вы скачиваете мод. Я не знаю, как еще ответить на этот вопрос.

недействительный

Спасибо, я вас понимаю, теперь буду ждать скидок на DCS.

[mrjay]

Autopilot basically works ... but barely.

1. Fly straight (pitch should be between -2, 2 degrees)
2. press 'A'
3. press 'H'

Now plane should be in altitude hold mode.

[Nightstorm]

F-22A, RWR Symbology and Modern missiles updates.

 

I linked Modern Missiles in my drop box on the first page.  I'm trying to update them on User Files but that's going sloooowly.

F-22:

I found out how to remove drag from the internal missiles in the current iteration of DCS.  That's been implemented.  Using a negative drag value for example cx_gain = -2.5 used to work, but now it literally applies a negative drag, not a drag reduction.  For the F-22 what this did:  You fire a missile from the left side of the bay, you now have two in the left and three in the right, the plane would start banking left toward the side with "more" drag since the left side now has less "negative" drag.  It was weird, but that's what it's doing.

Now there is no drag on the internal weapons and firing them does nothing to the bank of the F22.

Now...super cruise....rest in peace.  It's gone folks.

I know the other release last week seems to super cruise at M 1.8...and it does, until you fire a missile.  Then it starts to slow down.  I do not understand how or why this is happening.  I tested with just stock missiles and no other changes and it would still slow down.  Sometimes it slows down faster than other times, I can use the EXACT same load out with only the pylon section being replaced with the EXACT same zero drag or even negative drag and one will slow down at a different rate than the other.  I can't find any logic to it.

I've spent hours trying different things and I'm done with it.  As far as I can tell, we're now flying an F-15C (and a crapy version at that) that happens to look like an F22.  All parameters related to thrust and drag and the simple flight model data no longer apply to the aircraft.

It sucks in turns, it sucks in acceleration and it sucks in combat.  It was a fun plane to fly while it lasted.  I mean, it still LOOKS cool, just don't expect it to be king of the sky's.

I know there's a working thrust vectoring version out there, Growling Sidewinder uses it all of the time, and its using a different flight model.  You can watch any of those videos and see what the potential is.  Unfortunately, they have chosen not to release those modifications.  And since GS has it installed in his copy of DCS, its definitely accessible if they chose to make it available.  Once it goes open source, perhaps someone will be able to unlock this thing finally.

I don't know if there's anything more that can be done right now, if someone wants to take a crack at it, be my guest.

 

RWR:  

Updated with current DCS version.  If there are new mods/missiles etc missing, let me know where to find them and I can see about updating it.  I've updated it with all of CurrenHills assets as of today.

 

Modern Missiles:

Updated with current DCS version, improves the AIM-9L/9X and AIM-120B/C to be 9X/9X2+ and 120C/120D.  The 120C has a range ~85 NM and 120D 110 NM under ideal circumstances and provided your RADAR and lock a target that far away and keep the lock.  The F-22 is STILL really good as a BVR platform.

Edited February 17 by Nightstorm

[Talon1-1]

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Now...super cruise....rest in peace.

I'm just glad I kept a copy of DCS 2.8.6 on an external drive so I can still play this mod.

At the moment, I'm learning C++ both for modding and for work. If that EFM from Grinelli doesn't end up being released, then I'm going to try to turn this mod into an EFM. When I finish up learning the language, hopefully I can find someone on here who understands aerodynamics / radar to crunch numbers while I can handle the programming.

Edited February 26 by Talon1-1

[khaos0556]

On 2/26/2025 at 11:26 AM, Talon1-1 said:

I'm just glad I kept a copy of DCS 2.8.6 on an external drive so I can still play this mod.

At the moment, I'm learning C++ both for modding and for work. If that EFM from Grinelli doesn't end up being released, then I'm going to try to turn this mod into an EFM. When I finish up learning the language, hopefully I can find someone on here who understands aerodynamics / radar to crunch numbers while I can handle the programming.

I've slowly been working on an EFM for this mod and would love the help. Let me know when you've finished learning the code and we can combat that together.

[mrjay]

There is now github repository of GD F-22 Mod:

 

https://github.com/grinnellidesigns/f-22a

 

It is released under GPLv3.

Edited March 3 by mrjay

[Nightstorm]

That is awesome news.  Both the release of the code and the EFM work.  

"I'm just glad I kept a copy of DCS 2.8.6 on an external drive so I can still play this mod."

I think there was a way to install an older version.  I'll need to look into that.

 

 

 

Edited March 4 by Nightstorm

[VR Flight Guy in PJ Pants]

Good news but I need to find the older version of the mod first!

[Nightstorm]

3 hours ago, VR Flight Guy in PJ Pants said:

Good news but I need to find the older version of the mod first!

I still have the older version.  I'll upload it and link it.  

[VR Flight Guy in PJ Pants]

Big thanks! Super cruise, baby!

[Nightstorm]

4 minutes ago, VR Flight Guy in PJ Pants said:

Big thanks! Super cruise, baby!

This is the FULL installed v2 of the mod with everything.  Since it's now open source, I don't see an issue with reuploading this.  It was last updated June 10, 2023 and should be working fine pre 2.9.6.  I think that was the last version where it worked ok.

 

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/ymmjdg3wj728c1cddnslz/F-22A-Raptor.zip?rlkey=it3mzhakru8h1q6tlpx4hzza9&dl=0

 

Edited March 4 by Nightstorm

[VR Flight Guy in PJ Pants]

Let me check...

 

[VR Flight Guy in PJ Pants]

(Raptor Mod: Born Again) Initial test: landing gear cannot retract. Need to try it later starting in-flight.

Edited March 4 by VR Flight Guy in PJ Pants

[plott1964]

9 minutes ago, VR Flight Guy in PJ Pants said:

(Raptor Mod: Born Again) Initial test: landing gear cannot retract. Need to try it later starting in-flight.

We've seen this issue before. I just don't remember what the fix was.

[VR Flight Guy in PJ Pants]

At least the tail scratching runway is not here anymore... I think I start in the air to see how it flies

[VR Flight Guy in PJ Pants]

Did some BFM and BVR just then, UFO-sic energy is back! Need to download and install back the AIM-120D etc.

So far, air brake and landing gears are not working, even the landing gear handle in the cockpit does not work.

Wish list in the following order (for now):

1. Vector Thrusting!

2. Some sort of HMD.

Edited March 4 by VR Flight Guy in PJ Pants

[plott1964]

Those wish list items are going to be very difficult to develop since the mod is based on FC F-15C.

[VR Flight Guy in PJ Pants]

Oh, in case you are not aware, Growling Sidewinder has shown multiple times that there is a GS version which has thrust vectoring capability of the plane but GS never releases it, I am not sure if the GitHub version has it or not. Oh, somebody has published a Su-30M which features thrust vectoring also.

As for HMD, I can only wish.

[VR Flight Guy in PJ Pants]

Are the landing gear and air brake bugs being worked on? No rush, just wish to know of the status of things to come.  Thank you.