New btr-70 model

[Lotham]

Yep, this is high res cloud mod available at lockonfiles and the darklight mod by Darkwanderer

[shaggy]

OK guys its soon finished! . Luckybob asked me if i could help him skin this mode a little while ago, and off course i´m happy to help. The model mapping has been updated by Luckybob since the picture you se by lotham above.

Im having a hard time finding pictures of an BTR 70 with markings on it, becuase i would like to add some markings to make this flat green skin come to life, even witha camouflage it looks dull without some markings or numbers. So i just applied markings for an Russian SFOR veichle, which maybe is unrealistic to have an veichle for support duties in Kosovo, in Lock On. So f anyone has any suggestion about markings etc, please send me a pm, and i would be greatful for any pictures.

 

ANd before all the none belivers start..... I havent stolen a single texture here. All self made, weathering and rust markings also. But if you call using color charts stealing then i hav e to say i have done a terrible crime, but i dident invent colors! JK .

Ok here is some shots, and as stated any suggestions to markings like different regiments, fire escape etc would be greatly apreciated.

 

BW

Shaggy

 

 

 

 

Edited November 11, 2008 by shaggy

[Vekkinho]

Beautiful job Shaggs!

 

Rep up!

[littlejohn1959]

awesomenessssssss,,,,,,:thumbup::thumbup:

S!

[Mustang]

Great skinning Shaggy! and of course, great model Luckybob9! :thumbup:

[Vekkinho]

Some reference photos for a skin job:

 

 

Great link, too bad I didn't post it when luckybob made 3D model:

http://svsm.org/gallery/BTR-70?page=1

 

Friend of mine bought 1/48 scale kit of a BTR-70 SA-9 missile launcher vehicle, see link:

http://www.maketarstvo.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3891&sid=b30a32a518d8e4733c724065437c3894

 

so in case Shaggy needs details on markings and placement of it I can ask him to scan attached decals sheet!

[arthuro12]

great skinning! the gun cupola should have some dark edge on the bottom rim.. so it stands out a bit :)

[shaggy]

Thanks guys ;) and i will add some dirt too the wheels aswell ;)

[Coyote]

OK guys its soon finished! . Luckybob asked me if i could help him skin this mode a little while ago, and off course i´m happy to help. The model mapping has been updated by Luckybob since the picture you se by lotham above.

Im having a hard time finding pictures of an BTR 70 with markings on it, becuase i would like to add some markings to make this flat green skin come to life, even witha camouflage it looks dull without some markings or numbers. So i just applied markings for an Russian SFOR veichle, which maybe is unrealistic to have an veichle for support duties in Kosovo, in Lock On. So f anyone has any suggestion about markings etc, please send me a pm, and i would be greatful for any pictures.

 

ANd before all the none belivers start..... I havent stolen a single texture here. All self made, weathering and rust markings also. But if you call using color charts stealing then i hav e to say i have done a terrible crime, but i dident invent colors! JK .

Ok here is some shots, and as stated any suggestions to markings like different regiments, fire escape etc would be greatly apreciated.

 

BW

Shaggy

 

 

 

 

Модели не на уровне ED. Еще работать и работать.

[shaggy]

I dont understand Cayote? you say the model isent in the class of DCS models? "used google traslator but got a very poor translation" . And i think i know what you mean, and its a totally unnesassary comment. Gosh i just love this community sometimes ....

[Vekkinho]

Coyote, luckybob's BTR-70 may not be the class for the DCS series but sure looks better than BTR-70 we have in FC1.12a and b!

 

So unless ED decides to enhance current vehicles in LOMAC and FC and replace them with hi poly models in a 1.13 patch I see no reason for comments like that!

[Coyote]

Hello, gentelmen ( shaggy & Vekkinho).

In case if You don't know, I'm the person who accepts 3rd parity models for ED. And if You wish to see Your BTR-70 in game, You need to know that this model will be evaluated by me. So, I'l repeat one more time: current model don't meet ED standarts. Even if it'll have 100 000 polys it won't be a high poly model. Now I see only low poly model without good geometry and a bloory texture. Shaggy, do You think You'll reach uploading to game model status? It's not good for an adult to show so much emotions even in personal messaging. If You won't listen too me, Your moddeling skills will never be high. When Your model will be ready for uploading to project, write me a letter with attached MAX format model for evaluation. I'll write down all necessary notes, if You wish. I can also post them to open forums. Won't it be shameful for You?

Good luck in modelling.

[Vekkinho]

Thanks for clarifying Coyote,

I can speak russian so I understand your point from your signature!

 

To be honest, I wasn't aware the fact this particular model was competing for DCS series (IIRC it wasn't mentioned anytime in this thread) but IMHO it looks better than the BTR-70 we currently have in Lock On.

 

So unless there's a better BTR-70 model to give away for free to all of us who still want to improve the looks of FC without overkilling the FPS on our P-IVs I'm fine with Luckybob's product!

 

Afterall, installing this a BTR-70 to your FC folder is free and not necessary! If someone doesn't like it steers away from it!

 

Writing down all necessary notes is welcome, I like a good tip if it's useful. No shame with it!

 

Thanks!

[shaggy]

This isent a btr model that is going in DCS. and im not the modeler, this is a free mod for the flaming cliffs community and these textures are only base coating. so coyote my pm was very fair compared to what you have done. i do applogise if i offeded you in any way, but you have nothing to do with this model becuase its not going into DCS, "as far as i know" .

 

BW

Shaggy

[Coyote]

This isent a btr model that is going in DCS. and im not the modeler, this is a free mod for the flaming cliffs community and these textures are only base coating. so coyote my pm was very fair compared to what you have done. i do applogise if i offeded you in any way, but you have nothing to do with this model becuase its not going into DCS, "as far as i know" .

 

BW

Shaggy

Хорошо, тогда вот Вам мое мнение как вирпила, который ждет качественные mods. Твой БТР 70 - фигня полная! Я думаю большим спросом он пользоваться не будет. В любом случае посмотрим, доживет ли твой проект до релиза и на его конечное качество.

Жаль, что ты меня так и не услышал!

[shaggy]

Translation or please speak English in this part of the forum otherwise i could might as well speak Swedish and see how many understands my comments.

[Laivynas]

Хорошо, тогда вот Вам мое мнение как вирпила, который ждет качественные mods. Твой БТР 70 - фигня полная! Я думаю большим спросом он пользоваться не будет. В любом случае посмотрим, доживет ли твой проект до релиза и на его конечное качество.

Жаль, что ты меня так и не услышал!

Translation...

 

OK than, this is my opinion as a player who is waiting for quality mod. Your BTR-70 - total nonsense! I presume it won't be popular. Anyway, we'll see if Your project will reach release stage and what will be it's final quality.

It's a pity that You don't want tot hear me!

[SuperKungFu]

before this turns into a flame war...

 

please remember there's a language barrier one must overcome. Although those words are hurtful, remember translation make it seem really mean. It's a good model to start with, overtime your skills would grow.

[Laivynas]

Translation was made close enough to original.

And, yes, it represents author's mood also.

[Kuky]

I wonder if Coyote sends/posts same kinds of messages to other 3D model designers? How about the 3D models made by chinese community? I mean there are many posts for new models and none are to DCS standard but I haven't seen this kind of comment... hm... maybe he thinks you can make one that DOES fit DCS standard and wants to encourage?

 

Anyway don't worry about it shaggy.. you make it as best as you can and want to... if this was a 3D model of flyable aircraft yeah you could ask for perfection but it's just a BTR-70... you don't get to see it up close for insane amount of detail when flying aircraft... and in the end it's for LockOn, not DCS and as it it beats stock model already.

Edited November 13, 2008 by Kuky

[Boberro]

I feel unpleasant atmosphere... It is good model for FC, all the more that FC ground models are ugly, so one better model is better than 0. I am not 3D modeller, can only do rectangle, box or with big help something more complex as ring :D, but this 3D model for me is fine to put in Flaming Cliffs. Of course every model needs polish but people should have more tact...

Edited November 13, 2008 by Boberro

[shaggy]

Thanks you guys. you were speaking just the words i wanted to say :)

[Vekkinho]

I remember a thread on Walmis' F-15C and a huge discussion on the shape of the nose cone! It' lasted for over a 50 replies! But finally nose was...so to say "ironed out" and nobody ever mentioned "This doesn't meet Eagle Dynamics or whatever other standard!". No sulking or intimidating there!

 

So a hint/advice type of comment on creating a 3D model is more welcome and not shameful especially if it comes from a person who evaluates 3D models for ED! That person probably does some 3D modeling himself so should be eager to help!

[DTWD]

I think this is all just been a bit of a misunderstanding. I get the impression he thought you were planning on submitting it for packaging in the DCS where as in reality your not.

 

For LOMAC it's brilliant and is by far and away a far superior model to the one currently installed.

 

Just one small simple to answer question...when are you guys doing the rest of the objects :D

 

Regards

Paul

[Coyote]

Hey guys, can you read? Is there any phrase of mine where you saw hostility?

 

What of my words is not truth? This model is actually a bit better than existing model, but this is not high-poly model, it is not brilliant!

 

I can't see attention to details! This is simple model, lower than middle-level. For game standards it's good for 3-5 year's old game. And this is even not very good start for a modeler. I can show you a screenshot's of the first models made by external modelers, they are not professionals, just like you. After this you will see the difference, no matter that was a few years ago. I don't know why to move backwards, when it's possible and it’s needed to move forwards. Anyway I will be your fan! And I will look forward to your project.

 

 

P.S. Anybody wants to see a list of models from external modelers that was included in game officially? Certainly, you will see who's job good enough to be a ED standard, and who was lost on forum with proud.