GGTharos Posted February 9, 2021 Posted February 9, 2021 What are jamming cartridges? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
Jonne Posted February 9, 2021 Posted February 9, 2021 You mean in addition to tape salad for the tape player? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
WelshZeCorgi Posted February 9, 2021 Author Posted February 9, 2021 From the Heatblur manual: The JAMMER section controls the ejection of jammer cartridges in programmed mode. QTY sets how many jammer cartridges to eject, possible settings are 1-4. INTV uses all three indicated thumbwheels to set time in seconds between each ejection in the program. Settings from 1 to 299 possible in 1 second increments. Note Jammer cartridges not currently implemented in DCS.
GGTharos Posted February 9, 2021 Posted February 9, 2021 Ok ... what are jammer cartridges? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
GGTharos Posted February 9, 2021 Posted February 9, 2021 Also from the heatblur manual: "Jammer cartridges not currently implemented in DCS" I wouldn't expect to see them for the next couple of years if ever. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
Wdigman Posted February 9, 2021 Posted February 9, 2021 I think the Cartridges are Gen X expendables "Decoys" that send out signals to a radar or missile that the aircraft is "Here" The other Gen X decoy is a towed jammer that does the same. I believe these countermeasures are deployed from canisters that take a spot on a weapons rack. More protection but loose some room for bombs and missiles.
Blaze1 Posted February 9, 2021 Posted February 9, 2021 16 minutes ago, Wdigman said: I believe these countermeasures are deployed from canisters that take a spot on a weapons rack. More protection but loose some room for bombs and missiles. Wdigman, my understanding is that they fit into the chaff & or flare dispenser crates.
GGTharos Posted February 9, 2021 Posted February 9, 2021 Yes, they do. One example is BriteCloud and there's a bunch of others also. They replace chaff/flare cartridges in appropriate buckets. I think there are two sizes and the larger one is required. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
QuiGon Posted February 10, 2021 Posted February 10, 2021 (edited) IIRC those jammer cartridges have never actually been used on the Tomcat IRL. The system to use them was there, but the actual cartridges have never been put into service with the Tomcat. So no, we won't get them in DCS either. Edited February 10, 2021 by QuiGon Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing!
Naquaii Posted February 10, 2021 Posted February 10, 2021 The jammers indicated on the ALE-39 are jammer cartridges that were supposed to go in the same launchers as the chaff and flares like has been mentioned here. They were supposed to be launched the same way but when launched were activated as jammers. If this is ever implemented in DCS we might add it but our sources point towards these never really being a thing at all even if the launchers were prepared for them. That or them being so secret they never were used or something. Who knows. 1
GGTharos Posted February 10, 2021 Posted February 10, 2021 It looks like it was a 'future capability' thing and I haven't been found any mention of it, even of research into it back in those years. I'll look harder but I think you're right, it just never was used. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
Blaze1 Posted February 10, 2021 Posted February 10, 2021 23 hours ago, GGTharos said: Yes, they do. One example is BriteCloud and there's a bunch of others also. They replace chaff/flare cartridges in appropriate buckets. I think there are two sizes and the larger one is required. I just found out about BriteCloud a few days ago as it happens. The earlier ones I remember being marketed or in development, were Gen-X and I think one called Poet or something like that.
Trol Posted February 11, 2021 Posted February 11, 2021 Looks like the F/A-18C might get the RT-1489/ALE
QuiGon Posted February 11, 2021 Posted February 11, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Trol said: Looks like the F/A-18C might get the RT-1489/ALE Yes, the GEN-X dispensable decoy has been on ED's official feature list for the Hornet since 2017: Quote Decoys: ADM-141 TALD GEN-X Unlike the jammer cartridges for the Tomcat, the GEN-X on the Hornet has actually been in service IRL (still is?). Edited February 11, 2021 by QuiGon Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing!
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