Wolf359 Posted February 9, 2021 Posted February 9, 2021 Right now I am running an i7 9th gen 4.6 Ghz, 32GB ram, GeForce RTX 2070 super 8GB overclocked to 2080 numbers, monitor is Dell S3220DGF running at set 164 fps. I STILL get flickers and slight hiccups. Is it work it to overclock? I will get screen shots of both nvidia settings and dcs settings as soon as I get home. I make sure to delete shader cache after every setting change. Rig: Alienware Aurora R9 - 9th Gen Core i7 9700K 4.6GHz 8 Cores | NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Ti 8GB GDDR6 | 2TB M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD | 64GB Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO SL DDR4 3200MHz XMP 2.0 | LG Series80 QNED 50in 4K 120hz | TM Warthog HOTAS w/F-18 grip | Logitech G Pro RP | TM Cougar MFDs | TrackIR 5 Pro | VR: Oculus Quest 2 | Modules: FC3 | F/A-18C | F-16C | A-10C II | F-14 | M-2000C | AV-8B | F-5E | JF-17 | P-51D | KA-50iii | UH-1H | AH-64D | Supercarrier | Combined Arms | Nevada | Persian Gulf | Syria | Normandy | Chanel |
Svsmokey Posted February 9, 2021 Posted February 9, 2021 I see you're running TrackIr . Conventional thought is that TiR should run at multiples of 60hz refresh to avoid micro-stuttering . So running at 120 hz should eliminate TiR microstuttering AND give you some headroom to possibly eliminate "flickers and slight hiccups" . 1 9700k @ stock , Aorus Pro Z390 wifi , 32gb 3200 mhz CL16 , 1tb EVO 970 , MSI RX 6800XT Gaming X TRIO , Seasonic Prime 850w Gold , Coolermaster H500m , Noctua NH-D15S , CH Pro throttle and T50CM2/WarBrD base on Foxxmounts , CH pedals , Reverb G2v2
Burt Posted February 9, 2021 Posted February 9, 2021 (edited) Hey Wolf, looks like what have almost the same rig. I honestly don’t get any of the flickering you are mentioning. I’m running a 240hz monitor “Alienware”. So I would try what Svsmokey is saying or maybe try another disport cable. As far as overclocking with just the AWCC I did a gpu overclock in there with the core clock @ 100 and the Memory Clock @ 350 and while in game the gpu runs @ 1920ish MHZ and I could tell a bit of difference in smoothness and actually graphics too, very crisp!. I run my R9 @ high performance mode which locks me down @4.6-4.7 ghz. I’m really not to experience with overclocking so I think this is a mild one for me and I hope safe which it seems to be. And I definitely using msi afterburner for my gpu fan and temps... it’s a most ! I don’t use auto or any fan curves I just set to 55% and click apply. but yeah try what svsmokey is saying and/or try another high performance display cord. Edited February 9, 2021 by Burt ALIENWARE R11 - I9 10900KF @ 5.1 GHz - M.2 NVMe 2TB - RTX3090 - XFURY 64GB -3400 MHz RAM Monitor AW3420DW @ 120Hz - Virpil CM3 Throttle - TM TPR Rudder pedals - Virpil CM2 w/TM Hornet Stick Center - Monstertech Deck Mounts RealSimulator FSSB-R3 Lightning Base w/ F16SRGRH SideStick - VR user / Varjo Aero - Big Thx to mbucchia Start Date April 2020
Wolf359 Posted February 10, 2021 Author Posted February 10, 2021 38 minutes ago, Burt said: Hey Wolf, looks like what have almost the same rig. I honestly don’t get any of the flickering you are mentioning. I’m running a 240hz monitor “Alienware”. So I would try what Svsmokey is saying or maybe try another disport cable. As far as overclocking with just the AWCC I did a gpu overclock in there with the core clock @ 100 and the Memory Clock @ 350 and while in game the gpu runs @ 1920ish MHZ and I could tell a bit of difference in smoothness and actually graphics too, very crisp!. I run my R9 @ high performance mode which locks me down @4.6-4.7 ghz. I’m really not to experience with overclocking so I think this is a mild one for me and I hope safe which it seems to be. And I definitely using msi afterburner for my gpu fan and temps... it’s a most ! I don’t use auto or any fan curves I just set to 55% and click apply. but yeah try what svsmokey is saying and/or try another high performance display cord. Definitely using MSI Afterburner, Burt. Bumpd the voltage up 20, power and temp are max, core is 145, memory to 500 and fan to 60. Maybe I'm stressing it too much. I'm going to back it down to your settings and see how it runs. Rig: Alienware Aurora R9 - 9th Gen Core i7 9700K 4.6GHz 8 Cores | NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Ti 8GB GDDR6 | 2TB M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD | 64GB Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO SL DDR4 3200MHz XMP 2.0 | LG Series80 QNED 50in 4K 120hz | TM Warthog HOTAS w/F-18 grip | Logitech G Pro RP | TM Cougar MFDs | TrackIR 5 Pro | VR: Oculus Quest 2 | Modules: FC3 | F/A-18C | F-16C | A-10C II | F-14 | M-2000C | AV-8B | F-5E | JF-17 | P-51D | KA-50iii | UH-1H | AH-64D | Supercarrier | Combined Arms | Nevada | Persian Gulf | Syria | Normandy | Chanel |
Burt Posted February 10, 2021 Posted February 10, 2021 Oh wow cool thanks for sharing that info one thing I also did after watching a YouTube VR video setting that I changed my windows power setting to high performance instead of the default at balanced. I’m gonna see how that does as well. thx again! ALIENWARE R11 - I9 10900KF @ 5.1 GHz - M.2 NVMe 2TB - RTX3090 - XFURY 64GB -3400 MHz RAM Monitor AW3420DW @ 120Hz - Virpil CM3 Throttle - TM TPR Rudder pedals - Virpil CM2 w/TM Hornet Stick Center - Monstertech Deck Mounts RealSimulator FSSB-R3 Lightning Base w/ F16SRGRH SideStick - VR user / Varjo Aero - Big Thx to mbucchia Start Date April 2020
Burt Posted February 10, 2021 Posted February 10, 2021 Also I noticed on this R9 in AWCC the power limit only goes to 100... that kinda sucks because Im getting a voltage Limit 1 on msi graph. I don’t know if that can be changed in the bios which I’m not that experienced in any of that stuff but it would be nice to bump it up to like 110-112 Oh well other than that this machine runs DCS very well which is what I bought for. Hopefully I’ll have the balls to build my first pc soon.... maybe ALIENWARE R11 - I9 10900KF @ 5.1 GHz - M.2 NVMe 2TB - RTX3090 - XFURY 64GB -3400 MHz RAM Monitor AW3420DW @ 120Hz - Virpil CM3 Throttle - TM TPR Rudder pedals - Virpil CM2 w/TM Hornet Stick Center - Monstertech Deck Mounts RealSimulator FSSB-R3 Lightning Base w/ F16SRGRH SideStick - VR user / Varjo Aero - Big Thx to mbucchia Start Date April 2020
Wolf359 Posted February 10, 2021 Author Posted February 10, 2021 13 hours ago, Burt said: Oh wow cool thanks for sharing that info one thing I also did after watching a YouTube VR video setting that I changed my windows power setting to high performance instead of the default at balanced. I’m gonna see how that does as well. thx again! Yep, I have mine set up to high performance, too. I don't use command center to overclock the graphics card because MSI has more options. 13 hours ago, Burt said: Oh well other than that this machine runs DCS very well which is what I bought for. You and me, both! LOL 1 Rig: Alienware Aurora R9 - 9th Gen Core i7 9700K 4.6GHz 8 Cores | NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Ti 8GB GDDR6 | 2TB M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD | 64GB Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO SL DDR4 3200MHz XMP 2.0 | LG Series80 QNED 50in 4K 120hz | TM Warthog HOTAS w/F-18 grip | Logitech G Pro RP | TM Cougar MFDs | TrackIR 5 Pro | VR: Oculus Quest 2 | Modules: FC3 | F/A-18C | F-16C | A-10C II | F-14 | M-2000C | AV-8B | F-5E | JF-17 | P-51D | KA-50iii | UH-1H | AH-64D | Supercarrier | Combined Arms | Nevada | Persian Gulf | Syria | Normandy | Chanel |
Burt Posted February 10, 2021 Posted February 10, 2021 Yeah I may try msi/af to oc the card. The only reason I use AWCC is because of the test and save feature. But again I’m not that experience with over clocking and find it alittle scary haha! I’m also gonna check if the power limit can be tweak in the bios cause I would like to feed it slightly more power like maybe 110-112. ALIENWARE R11 - I9 10900KF @ 5.1 GHz - M.2 NVMe 2TB - RTX3090 - XFURY 64GB -3400 MHz RAM Monitor AW3420DW @ 120Hz - Virpil CM3 Throttle - TM TPR Rudder pedals - Virpil CM2 w/TM Hornet Stick Center - Monstertech Deck Mounts RealSimulator FSSB-R3 Lightning Base w/ F16SRGRH SideStick - VR user / Varjo Aero - Big Thx to mbucchia Start Date April 2020
Wolf359 Posted February 15, 2021 Author Posted February 15, 2021 On 2/9/2021 at 4:21 PM, Svsmokey said: I see you're running TrackIr . Conventional thought is that TiR should run at multiples of 60hz refresh to avoid micro-stuttering . So running at 120 hz should eliminate TiR microstuttering AND give you some headroom to possibly eliminate "flickers and slight hiccups" . I changed my FPS to 120hz and I see an improvement. Thanks for the heads-up! I hope Natural Point comes out with a solution for the higher performance monitors. Rig: Alienware Aurora R9 - 9th Gen Core i7 9700K 4.6GHz 8 Cores | NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Ti 8GB GDDR6 | 2TB M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD | 64GB Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO SL DDR4 3200MHz XMP 2.0 | LG Series80 QNED 50in 4K 120hz | TM Warthog HOTAS w/F-18 grip | Logitech G Pro RP | TM Cougar MFDs | TrackIR 5 Pro | VR: Oculus Quest 2 | Modules: FC3 | F/A-18C | F-16C | A-10C II | F-14 | M-2000C | AV-8B | F-5E | JF-17 | P-51D | KA-50iii | UH-1H | AH-64D | Supercarrier | Combined Arms | Nevada | Persian Gulf | Syria | Normandy | Chanel |
Bossco82 Posted February 16, 2021 Posted February 16, 2021 Using MSI Afterburner and using the OC Scanner tool is a safe bet. Just dont set it to apply settings at windows startup. Then if something goes wrong everything goes back to square one at the reboot. Once you have used the OC scanner save it to a profile in MSI Afterburner and load it everytime you play DCS. I used a similar process for my 2080ti. I used the OC Scanner to see what was possible and then tweeked an undervolt/overclock from that. There are plenty of useful guides on Youtube to walk you through it. I think Jay2Cents does a good GPU overclocking guide that is pretty straight forward.
Burt Posted February 18, 2021 Posted February 18, 2021 Great advice Boss ! Did msi/af get a new face lift? I have notice that when I opened up msi it said some program will not load or something like that... is there a new one...msi/af. I’m using the old one. thx ALIENWARE R11 - I9 10900KF @ 5.1 GHz - M.2 NVMe 2TB - RTX3090 - XFURY 64GB -3400 MHz RAM Monitor AW3420DW @ 120Hz - Virpil CM3 Throttle - TM TPR Rudder pedals - Virpil CM2 w/TM Hornet Stick Center - Monstertech Deck Mounts RealSimulator FSSB-R3 Lightning Base w/ F16SRGRH SideStick - VR user / Varjo Aero - Big Thx to mbucchia Start Date April 2020
Bossco82 Posted February 18, 2021 Posted February 18, 2021 I use Msi Afterburner 4.5.3 Beta 5. Its the version that can show your actual GPU memory usage not just how much is allocated. It installs with Riva Tuner statistics so you need to let it install both. In practise with most Nvidia 20 series GPU's I have found that whatever OC scanner results are you can usually drop the voltage and lift the clock a little. On my 2080ti for example it showed 1950mhz @ 1.025mv I can actually do 1980mhz @ 0.950mv. It takes a little trial and error to dial it in and every card is different. There are a few Youtube videos, search "MSI Afterburner undervolt guide" I would advise not to go mad though, you dont want the card screaming as hard as it can. It could raise temps and then its only going to throttle down and drop clock speed anyway. I would see how high you can get the clock using 1.0mv, maybe 1.025. Definitely see what it can do stable using 0.975mv or even 0.950mv. It makes temps a lot cooler so therefore no throttling down. Please remember the only golden rule with MSI Afterburner. Dont click the "Windows Icon" or enable it to apply settings on start up!!!
Burt Posted February 18, 2021 Posted February 18, 2021 Yeah I’m using the older version. I’m gonna look in on the beta thanks Boss ALIENWARE R11 - I9 10900KF @ 5.1 GHz - M.2 NVMe 2TB - RTX3090 - XFURY 64GB -3400 MHz RAM Monitor AW3420DW @ 120Hz - Virpil CM3 Throttle - TM TPR Rudder pedals - Virpil CM2 w/TM Hornet Stick Center - Monstertech Deck Mounts RealSimulator FSSB-R3 Lightning Base w/ F16SRGRH SideStick - VR user / Varjo Aero - Big Thx to mbucchia Start Date April 2020
Bossco82 Posted February 18, 2021 Posted February 18, 2021 No problem Burt, if you need anymore help or advise just ping me a PM. You can get the beta5 version on Techpowerup. When you get it installed. This is only a guide, set the power limit to max, try upping the memory 100mhz at a time see what you can get stable, ie if you can fly around in DCS for an hour its probably ok. The memory might go to 200-400+ depending on the quality of your gpu. Then try to get the best clock speed you can using between 0.950-1.025mv settle on whatever suits you best.
Burt Posted February 18, 2021 Posted February 18, 2021 Gotcha thx... would I have to uninstall the older version first before I install to beta? Or would be ok to have both? Thanks ALIENWARE R11 - I9 10900KF @ 5.1 GHz - M.2 NVMe 2TB - RTX3090 - XFURY 64GB -3400 MHz RAM Monitor AW3420DW @ 120Hz - Virpil CM3 Throttle - TM TPR Rudder pedals - Virpil CM2 w/TM Hornet Stick Center - Monstertech Deck Mounts RealSimulator FSSB-R3 Lightning Base w/ F16SRGRH SideStick - VR user / Varjo Aero - Big Thx to mbucchia Start Date April 2020
Burt Posted February 18, 2021 Posted February 18, 2021 I'm sorry if Im hijacking your thread I just would like to ask a question. I have been getting this message popping up when I open msi/af. it just started after a windows update. Any clue why? Thanks ALIENWARE R11 - I9 10900KF @ 5.1 GHz - M.2 NVMe 2TB - RTX3090 - XFURY 64GB -3400 MHz RAM Monitor AW3420DW @ 120Hz - Virpil CM3 Throttle - TM TPR Rudder pedals - Virpil CM2 w/TM Hornet Stick Center - Monstertech Deck Mounts RealSimulator FSSB-R3 Lightning Base w/ F16SRGRH SideStick - VR user / Varjo Aero - Big Thx to mbucchia Start Date April 2020
Treker Posted February 18, 2021 Posted February 18, 2021 Install latest beta version of Riva Tuner. That solved it for me. https://www.guru3d.com/files-details/rtss-rivatuner-statistics-server-download.html 1
Bossco82 Posted February 19, 2021 Posted February 19, 2021 (edited) Yeah, Treker probably has got it right there. I would look in your Windows 10 apps and uninstall MSI Afternurner and Riva Tuner, if they are there!. Then go in Programs X86 and delete the MSI Afterburner and RivaTuner folder, again if they are there!. Probably not needed but better safe and all that just in case. Then run the installer for MSI Afterburner 4.6.3 Beta5, the Riva Tuner installer should run automatically when Afterburner has finished. They are part of the same package. You should be good to go after that, on the off chance Treker's link does not work for you. This is the exact one I downloaded and use. MSI Afterburner 4.6.3 Beta 5 Download (guru3d.com) Edited February 19, 2021 by Bossco82 1
Burt Posted February 19, 2021 Posted February 19, 2021 Awesome ! Will do thanks ALIENWARE R11 - I9 10900KF @ 5.1 GHz - M.2 NVMe 2TB - RTX3090 - XFURY 64GB -3400 MHz RAM Monitor AW3420DW @ 120Hz - Virpil CM3 Throttle - TM TPR Rudder pedals - Virpil CM2 w/TM Hornet Stick Center - Monstertech Deck Mounts RealSimulator FSSB-R3 Lightning Base w/ F16SRGRH SideStick - VR user / Varjo Aero - Big Thx to mbucchia Start Date April 2020
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