requested Jettison bazooka tubes?

[Cool-Hand]

 

@NineLine

The stuff I sent you on discord was what i was referencing. What else are you/the team looking for? There are excerpts from the P47 pilots manual, the AAC rocket material manual, and a pilot memoire that recollects using rocket tubes and jettisoning them in this thread already.

Edited February 10 by Cool-Hand

[NineLine]

Well, honestly it's just time that we need for a dev to get back to it. My only concern is the proper procedures for jettison, as there is no specific button or switch, but I have given them a couple of ideas that should work, but right now its just waiting on someone to be able to spend some time on it. 

[Cool-Hand]

Would suspect the red jettison T handles for the wings and belly next to parking brake. But trying to find that for sure or on the rocket control box

Edited February 11 by Cool-Hand

[NineLine]

5 hours ago, Cool-Hand said:

Would suspect the red jettison T handles for the wings and belly next to parking brake. But trying to find that for sure or on the rocket control box

Yeah its not clear, I think we can make a reasonable guess, but would be nice to see it detailed. 

[rcjonessnp175]

what about reaching out to any sme aka still living pilots from the era granted i know not many around still, and or Westpac in Colorado Springs?  Ill be back there in couple weeks hopefully and will stop by and ask the folks in the back.  My thoughts are that anything and everything should be jettisoned  just like the bombs and or gas tanks, especially if the pilot is going to ditch the aircraft or has landing gear failure doing a belly landing.

[TK-421]

In line with this request, those manuals clearly show the tubes on earlier versions of the P-47, would it not be possible to have the D-30 use M10 tubes as well? 

[TK-421]

On 2/11/2025 at 4:29 PM, NineLine said:

Yeah its not clear, I think we can make a reasonable guess, but would be nice to see it detailed. 

I think this box (see pictures) someone mentioned previously is the method used for the M10 bazooka tubes. The red switch is for the jettison.

  

I remember seeing somewhere that not all P-47s were set up for the M10 launchers and were field upgraded to support them. Some even detailing only two per squadron, image below is from the Thunderbolt film, only the flight lead carried the tubes in that flight. 

I have a suspicion that the rocket panel in the D-40 variant in game is a very late model, which only worked with HVAR rockets, hence the missing jettison switch, as it wasn't possible to jettison HVARS so it wasn't needed after the M10 went out of service.

I believe the correct version that could jettison the M10 tubes and work with both M10s and HVARs is the one with the jettison switch. This image is from a D-40, and shows the arming panel and the rocket panel with jettison switch.

This would also explain how it was done with the earlier Razorbacks and the D-30 early model. All they had to do was add the rocket panel under the parking break and use the old pull handle method for bombs. For the late model D-30 which had the bomb arming panel under the parking break, I assume they mounted it to the side, this image shows an early P-47 with rocket panel mounted to the left. You can see it behind the flight stick, this one doesn't even have the bomb arming panel. 

 

I think the fix to this issue is;

1. Change the rocket panel in the D-40 to this one with the red jettison switch
2. Add this rocket panel to the D-30 late model mounted to the left and allow M10 tubes
3. Add this rocket panel to the D-30 early model mounted to the left or under the parking brake and allow M10 tubes
4. Add the ability to jettison the M10 tubes

 

As a bonus, this image below shows the panel for the K-14 gunsight which is missing, it should have the same controls as the P-51 gunsight. This is from the same D-40. 

 

Also another bonus, the D-30 manual, (AN 01-65BC-1A, page 31) shows that the propeller lever has a function where the throttle will always push it forward, which simplifies engine management by making it impossible to push the throttle forward of the propeller lever. I assume this is a function of the interconnecting latch, so you could either lock it to the throttle lever with both front and rear latches, only put down the front latch so it moves forward with the throttle lever but not rearwards, or disconnect it completely so it moves independently. 

 

[TK-421]

Had a quick look at the N model manual, it shows the current in game D-40 rocket panel which doesn't have a Jettison switch, the November manual also doesn't mention the ability to Jettison the tubes like the older manuals do, however the November manual only shows HVARs and doesn't talk about M10s. Puts further theory that the rocket selector panel we have in game is a very late model, which was only designed to be used with HVARs as the M10 went out of service by the end of the war. 

Also, on the point of the throttle and propeller lever, I think I was mistaken on it being able to be interconnected. The November manual has very good image showing the propeller lever. You can actually see the latch only exists on the leading edge. So you can't actually interconnect the throttle and propeller lever. You can only set it so the front latch drops, which means it supports the description in the manual where it will move with the throttle lever forward but not backwards. 

Also this also shows another method for sight controls, which I assume is a very late war K-14 gunsight. The control switches are mounted on a turn dial under the sight. I believe the correct method for the D-30 and D-40 is still the added box like the previous post image shows. 

[Brigg]

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Edited May 23 by Brigg

[Tzigy]

Please please please please let us drop the tubes