solved mouse control for external view no longer working.

[buttcannon]

Looking through the platcam. 

Looking at aircraft in F2, or ships in F9, etc etc.

You can no longer look around in these views with the mouse when not in VR.

[Sile]

Yesterday i had this problem, too. Still there after reboot. I'm using the open beta.

And it's not only in the hornet. (Sorry realized i'm in the hornet thread after posting)

 

Panning and zooming by mouse wheel is not possible in F2 view or other external views.

Control of view with keyboard controls is working. (Shift+NumPad /  , ...)

 

The mouse is correctly assigned in axis controls. I didn't change anything there.

 

A friend of mine experienced it about 4 weeks ago, but it went away after an dcs update.

[YoYo]

I can confirm this, current Open Beta (I use VR). Tested with Mi-24. Before no this issue but few times yesterday I noticed the same (used Mi-24P module). After 10-15 minutes mouse F2 view (panning) stops working, just fixed view. No issue in VC (when I back), mouse cursor works and I click any switch ect. F2 view, agan. Cant panning around the model. I didnt notice it before August’s updates of Open Beta.

 

I see that its a bigger problem than 3 people:

F2 External view - mouse not panning around aircraft.

 

 

Edited August 26, 2021 by YoYo

[Flappie]

Please ensure this box is NOT ticked:

 

[YoYo]

4 hours ago, Flappie said:

Please ensure this box is NOT ticked:

 

 

 

Thx but I have turn off this from long time:

 

 

I did now test again and noticed it after Change position to Pilot Operator in Mi-24P. I added here my track (more than 5Mb so I use external upload, it will be here 1 month):

https://www.sendspace.com/file/f8jp26 .

On the Track you can notice that from beginning the mouse external view (panning) on F2 works. After when I go to Pilot Operator station and fire the first missile the external panning stops to work. BUT in cockpit it works still without any issue. Looks like a bug, but hard to tell me its a bug in this module only or in the whole DCS.

[Flappie]

33 minutes ago, YoYo said:

On the Track you can notice that from beginning the mouse external view (panning) on F2 works. After when I go to Pilot Operator station and fire the first missile the external panning stops to work. BUT in cockpit it works still without any issue. Looks like a bug, but hard to tell me its a bug in this module only or in the whole DCS.

 

Thanks, I'll try this.

[YoYo]

1 hour ago, Flappie said:

 

Thanks, I'll try this.

 

Thx, I found this post also:

So maybe Mi-24P module strange bug?

 

Edited August 26, 2021 by YoYo

[Flappie]

Good, this looks like a proper universal bug. The easier it gets reproduced, the faster devs can fix it.

[YoYo]

3 hours ago, Flappie said:

Good, this looks like a proper universal bug. The easier it gets reproduced, the faster devs can fix it.

 

I did more reserch (new created mission in current OB) and for me its an issue with Mi-24P and DCS environment but only if you take pilot operator place plus open and go to Sthurm sight. No any issue with two places modules like: Yak-52, F-14, Mi-8. In Mi-24 if you leave the station the issue with external view F2 and panning mouse on external view start to present. Maybe someone else has some other insights, but I've done a few tests now and it shows up every time, so it's easy to check.

[Flappie]

I'm unable to reproduce your issue.

I enter the copilot slot, activate Shturm system and optics, aim, fire, then hit F2: I'm still able to move the view wih my mouse.

Mi-24_sight_then_F2.trk

[Flappie]

However, when replaying your track, I can reproduce the bug (I take control of the game once your F2 view gets stuck, and cannot move the camera with my mouse either). Strange...

[YoYo]

9 hours ago, Flappie said:

However, when replaying your track, I can reproduce the bug (I take control of the game once your F2 view gets stuck, and cannot move the camera with my mouse either). Strange...

 

Thx Flappie for your attention! You did great support! Btw. I found next post about it.... so maybe in your beta its fixed already?

 

Edited August 27, 2021 by YoYo

[Flappie]

16 minutes ago, YoYo said:

Thx Flappie for your attention! You did great support! Btw. I found next post about it.... so maybe in your beta its fixed already?

 

Yes, I knew about this fix. That's why I tested this on current OB (at least I'm pretty certain I did), and I didn't have the issue. Please let me know if the next OB update fixes the issue for you.

[durka-durka]

Was there any resolution to this bug or setting?  It just came up for me. (7Jan2023)

[Flappie]

Can you please attach a short track showing the issue?

 

[durka-durka]

2 hours ago, Flappie said:

Can you please attach a short track showing the issue?

 

I got it to work singleplayer and in another server, so I think it may have been a server-side issue.  Still trying to narrow down where it went wrong. 

[Flappie]

Please try a DCS repair.

It worked for another forum user:

 

[Wile E.]

I've been seeing this for the past few weeks. I can use the number pad 8, 6, 4, and 2 to move the camera up, right, left, and down, but nothing on the mouse moves the camera.

I have the issue in VR (launching with `--force_steam_VR` for the Varjo Aero fix) and in pancake mode launching with the standard updater shortcut. I also made sure I don't have the TrackIR thingy selected.

noMouseinF2.trk

Edited January 29, 2023 by Wile E.

[Flappie]

Hi. Thanks for the track. I replayed it, then took control over it and I was able to use the external mouse view.

I think the issue comes from your settings.

Try this:

1. Rename your "Saved Games/DCS..." folder to "DCS_backup" (do NOT delete it).
2. Start DCS, and try the external mouse view.

[Wile E.]

Going back to default settings allowed me to mouse again. Is there a way to diagnose which setting it is, or is my old version basically hosed?

[Flappie]

Good! Now you can hunt the file causing this:

Rename the new Saved Games/DCS... folder any way you want (you won't need it anymore), then rename the old one to it's original name. Now browse to Saved Games/DCS.../Config, rename your options.lua to options.lua.bak, and see if that fixes the issue.

[Wile E.]

Are there more files that could be the issue? If so I can use a binary filter to diagnose the issue in log(n) time.

[Flappie]

Basically all files from the "Saved Games/DCS.../Config" folder.
Maybe some Lua files  from "Saved Games/DCS.../MissionEditor".
And if you find nothing in both, maybe some file from Scripts can be responsible for this.

[Wile E.]

I found the problem. When I set up an airframe, I bulk remove chunks of keyboard and mouse shortcuts. For example I'll filter the commands to axis only and remove everything, or to MFD and remove everything, before setting up my commands. I somehow managed to remove the mouse settings for external views. This was one of the first things I tried to check, using the in game "Adjust Controls" and checking "General" and "UI". I didn't find it though, because the external view controls are airframe specific (?).

I ended up finding the file "Saved Games/DCS.openbeta/Config/Input/F-16C_50/mouse/Mouse.diff.lua", which only had adjustments to remove "Camera Horizontal View", "Camera Vertical View", and "Camera Zoom View". I deleted the file and that fixed it.

So for anyone who runs into this problem: check your airframe-specific settings (not general for some reason) for "Camera View", and make sure you didn't remove them.

[Flappie]

Thanks for your excellent feedback. Clear skies.