missing info AGM-65F Unable to slew Mav Seeker

[GazAce]

I used to be able to rattle off 4 MAVS & nail 4 moving TGTS in one pass, just check out some of my YouTube Vids & you'll see that. Now after a few months & a few updates later I decided to revisit my good ole MAV. Now I can't even secure one Target. I have "Realistic TDC" option unticked as usual but can't seem to get my MAV Seeker to slew after pressing my Undesignate button. I'm in the Cyprus map & in a built up area. 

Is this a current bug or has the procedure changed recently? Any ideas anyone?

Kind regards Gaz

 

 

Update here: Pretty sure I got it now.. when you lock up moving TGT on right DDI with PTRK then switch to left DDI & making MAV Seeker as SOI. You then go back to right DDI & cancel the PTRK & this allows the Undesignate button ( or letter S on KB ) to enable Mav seeker slewing.

Phew man, at least it works lol   

 

Apologies if this has already been covered, I been kinda AWOL 

Cheers GA

Edited June 24, 2021 by GazAce

[AstonMartinDBS]

3 hours ago, GazAce said:

I have "Realistic TDC" option unticked as usual but can't seem to get my MAV Seeker to slew after pressing my Undesignate button.

Hi GA! I don't have any problem with my AGM-65F in the current OB - neither with "Realistic TDC Slew" option boxed nor unboxed. Already tested in the "Weapons Qualification - AGM-65F Maverick" mission on Caucasus.

Check your bindings for the "Undesignate/Nose Wheel Steer Switch".

[GazAce]

Yea thanks for that but all my bindings are cool. It's still very clunky at best, no where near as smooth & fluid as it used to be but I've only tried in Cyprus map in a highly built up area with ATFLIR only because it's my latest mission.

Thanks for the input though, appreciate    

[AstonMartinDBS]

48 minutes ago, GazAce said:

all my bindings are cool.

Try to reproduce and upload a short trackfile, so the developers can do some research.

[Smashy]

9 hours ago, GazAce said:

Update here: Pretty sure I got it now.. when you lock up moving TGT on right DDI with PTRK then switch to left DDI & making MAV Seeker as SOI. You then go back to right DDI & cancel the PTRK & this allows the Undesignate button ( or letter S on KB ) to enable Mav seeker slewing.

Phew man, at least it works lol  

 

 

I can verify this is how it currently works.  I don't remember it being this convoluted.  IR MAV seeker will not respond to TDC input if there is a designated target on the FLIR.  I vaguely remember being able to move the MAV seeker and FLIR reticle just by assigning TDC to the relevant display, no undesignate needed.  Or maybe I'm not remembering this correctly?

[Recluse]

The way I remember it working In the past, a Simple Undesginate allowed slewing of the MAV seeker (while holding TDC DOWN)  It remained Ground Stabilized in that position after the Undesignate which made it easy to slew to a new target. After the second time, though the seeker caged to boresight.

 

To be honest I have always been confused by the PTRK behavior of the TPOD. When engaging moving targets, it seemed that after PTRK, another TDC depress was needed (Offset cross appears) to really keep the laser on a target (when using Echo Mavs or GBU, that is).  It always seemed to me that the PTRK should serve as the target designation without the extra TDC depress, but I always did it.

 

I haven't tried using the Maverick Slew recently...good to know this new step is needed.

Edited June 24, 2021 by Recluse

[DimSim]

Anyone have some up-to-date steps to share?

 

I can get TGP -> Mav.

If Mav is not locked, Mav FOV can cycle.

If Mav is not locked TGP -> Mav every time SOI is set, otherwise uncage -> cage resets Mav on TGP target.

Undesignate on TGP always resets to bore sight.

Undesignate on Mav unlocks TGP on 1st press, TGP to bore sight on 2nd press. Mav is unchanged though SOI.

 

I have not been able to steer Mav via TDC.

Edited July 5, 2021 by DimSim

[Recluse]

Here is a little video (crude) showing the process of:

 

- Locking FLIR on target via WP DESG and SLEW to lock

-Uncaging MAVF page to FLIR target location.

-UNDESIGNATE with TDC on MAV page FLIR goes to BORESIGHT (MAV stays ground stabilized)

-HOLD DOWN TDC DEPRESS to SLEW Maverick Seeker. (if you have Realistic TDC unchecked in your Options, you MAY not need to hold TDC depress)

-When Seeker is in range for a decent contrast LOCK, releasing TDC DEPRESS locks the MAVERICK.

-After firing, the Seeker will CAGE to Boresight.  TDC Depress will UNCAGE and allow slew. You can re-acquire another target with the MAV seeker.  In this video, I didn't see the tracking gates collapse, so I didn't think it got the second target, but both did get hits.

 

This was the simple case with stationary targets, so I didn't go to POINT/AUTO track.

 

 

Edited July 5, 2021 by Recluse

[DimSim]

Thanks I was missing the TDC Depress while slewing.

And as others said earlier, TGP must be completely unlocked at the time.