LO:FC + LO:BS

[baksie]

Can ED confirm that a Third party is working on merging FC and BS together into one.

[Kuky]

Just where did you get that "info"?

 

Black Shark is not compatible with Flaming Cliffs

[RvETito]

Science fiction...

[Smith]

Perhaps he meant this:

http://www.lockonfiles.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=330

[Majesco]

Can ED confirm that a Third party is working on merging FC and BS together into one.

 

i just find the info on Lockonfiles homepage that "New LOFC Install Mod" could bring to you hi-res aircraft/ helo models into LOFC but you must have DCS-BS installed to make it works properly

[Kuky]

If that eventually got out it would still be just for 3d models, it would not merge LO/FC with BS.

[Ironhand]

Can ED confirm that a Third party is working on merging FC and BS together into one.

This is not a merge. Rather, the mod you are referring to will allow you to fly FC with the BS 3D models. So the visuals will be prettier and more exciting but you will still be flying FC. You will not be able to fly the helo or access the BS Mission Editor, etc.

 

Rich

[Renato71]

And how is that different in comparison with turning RU edition into ENG language? I was told (privately) that this is a simple procedure that involves changing internal settings of BS. On the other hand, this mode is much more complex and it takes data from one application and uses them in another one. For sake of lockonfiles I have to ask is this legal? Hate to see them banned or "forbidden to be talked about as they talk about illegal stuff" :(

[Ironhand]

And how is that different in comparison with turning RU edition into ENG language?

This mod allows you to fly the aircraft via the FC sim.

 

...On the other hand, this mode is much more complex and it takes data from one application and uses them in another one. For sake of lockonfiles I have to ask is this legal? Hate to see them banned or "forbidden to be talked about as they talk about illegal stuff" :(

The mod copies parts of FC over the top of BS. Both executables are in the directory. To fly BS, you start BS. To fly FC with the BS 3D models, you fly FC. It requires you to have both sims installed on your hard drive. So there are no legal issues.

 

Rich

Edited October 24, 2008 by Ironhand

[Renato71]

And how is that different in comparison with turning RU edition into ENG language?

This mod allows you to fly the aircraft via the FC sim.

 

Erm, I'm not that stupid or like other people that punch ENTER either too much, or not at all. I meant, differ in a legal way.

 

The mod copies parts of FC over the top of BS. Both executables are in the directory. To fly BS, you start BS. To fly FC with the BS 3D models, you fly FC. It requires you to have both sims installed on your hard drive. So there are no legal issues.

Rich

 

So, I copy a part of application A into application B, and there are no legal issues regarding either app A or B? Never heard of anything like that before, unles supported by publisher.

 

EULA usually states stuff like "nor will any part of this product be used in any other way". As far as I understood relationship regarding LO, ED and TFC do not own LO, and thats the reason why DCS is published as a separate product with a different publisher (for western market).

[baksie]

Its the 3rd party explaied in one of the sticky up top in this forum. So no legal issues.

I was hoping to fly the A10 against the KA50 online. But that is probably not possible yet. So lets hope the next module comes out soon.

[Ironhand]

Erm, I'm not that stupid...

My sincere aplogies. In no way did I mean to imply that you were being stupid. I misunderstood the direction of your question.

 

 

So, I copy a part of application A into application B, and there are no legal issues regarding either app A or B? Never heard of anything like that before, unles supported by publisher.

 

EULA usually states stuff like "nor will any part of this product be used in any other way". As far as I understood relationship regarding LO, ED and TFC do not own LO, and thats the reason why DCS is published as a separate product with a different publisher (for western market).

No but they do own FC. According to a strict interpretation of the EULA, you may be correct. (I've never read one in its entirety in my life.) But then no mods would be available. And I could not alter the contents of config.fcg to suite my needs. At some point, a strict legal interpretation of the wording becomes ludicrous. OTOH, as I understand it, [EDIT]TFC[EDIT END] et al are not presently concerned with this version of the mod.

 

Rich

Edited October 24, 2008 by Ironhand

[Renato71]

Well, I feel that I can't reply in short, and there is no reason to steal the topic.

 

In shortest variant: I was only concerned that if changing RU edition into english is forbidden subject, how come that more elaborate change can be allowed? Or, will this mod be illegal in Russia, and legal in West?

[baksie]

Of course this mod will only be allowed by ED if ED thinks it is good.

[Alfa]

That sounds very strange,

 

EULA issues aside, I don't see how this could work since the BS models are animated for that particular code - so while the models themselves are compatible, their animations are not.

[Alfa]

Did what?

 

First how can "lots of mods have done it" when the international version of DCS: Black Shark has yet to be released?.

 

Secondly, I don't think you understood what I said - the LO:FC code(arguments) and new DCS:BS models(animations) are not compatible.

 

So playing FC with the new BS models would not provide any benefits - the animations don't work and you can expect moving parts to be stuck in odd positions - at least thats the situation with the new vehicule models due to the rewrite of ground units' code to incorporate new features/functional fidelity.

[EvilBivol-1]

The unauthorized porting of material from one IP-protected product into another, separate product would certainly be a violation of the EULA. Thread closed.