I want to buy a new Motherboard, CPU, and Ram. I use intel and like Asus ROG MB's

ctguy1955 · July 25, 2021

Win 10 only has until 2025 and then all MB's have to have TPL and My Maximus VII Formula does not, so I cant use win 11.
I like My Corsair ATX case and already have a corsair 1050 PSU, and My EVGA 2080Ti is fine.
Going back 4 years ago with 2 watercooled GTX 680's, I was able to run My PC at over 5Ghz
and now it always crashes if I go over 4.8 I won the lottery when it came to My devils canyon
and what I should be asking instead of writing all of the above is:

Is the speed of a new CPU more important for running DCS 2.7 and future versions rather then the number of CORES ?
I thought DCS only uses 2 cores, one for sound and one for graphics ?

Intel Core i7-10700KF Desktop Processor 8 Cores up to 5.1 GHz Unlocked Without Processor Graphics LGA1200 (Intel 400 Series chipset) 125W

Intel Core i7-10700K Desktop Processor 8 Cores up to 5.1 GHz Unlocked LGA1200 (Intel 400 Series Chipset) 125W (BX8070110700K)

Intel Core i7-11700K Desktop Processor 8 Cores up to 5.0 GHz Unlocked LGA 1200 125W Bundle with ROG Strix Z590-E Gaming WiFi Motherboard DDR4 4X M.2, USB 3.2 Type-C Aura Sync RGB

ASUS ROG Strix Z490-H Gaming Z490 LGA 1200 (Intel 10th Gen) ATX Gaming Motherboard (12+2 Power Stages,DDR4 4600, Intel 2.5 Gb Ethernet, USB 3.2 Gen 2, Aura Sync)

Rog has many MB's and I have the ability to water cool the MB like
I do with the 6 year old one I have now.

If speed of CPU is the best thing for DCS rather then number of cores
would the above KF or K version be ok, and would a series 11 rather then
a series 10 be better or should I just save the money as DCS has had many
years to update to Direct X 12 and never did so. I know Vulkan or whatever
new thing is called may replace DX12, and I am sorry I don't know this info.

Thank You for any links or help in this matter, I just sold My 2016 HD Dyna
and now have the money to upgrade my PC and wish to do so ASAP !

Clear Skies
Mike

Edited July 25, 2021 by ctguy1955
changed Ansel to VULKAN

LucShep · July 26, 2021

The price between Intel 10th and 11th gen is too big for such a miniscule difference in gaming performance (less than 7%, which is imperceptible in practice).

The advantage of 11th gen (over 10th gen) is that it supports PCIe gen 4, usefull for the fastest of the fastest NVMe SSDs (which make zero difference for gaming, and very expensive), whereas 10th gen supports PCIe gen 3 - which will still provide speeds far beyond any intensive game, for years.

For now, and for DCS, you don't need more than 6 cores (such as the i5 10600K which is still excelent) and, yes, high clocks still matter.

But still, I'd say to consider the i7 or i9 if you can afford it, especially since Intel 10th gen are with lowered prices (to make way for 11th gen and fight AMD Ryzen).

It's unknown when and how it'll be with the Vulkan engine update for DCS later on, but it may be the case that it'll push more cores than you can throw at it (again, unknown).

The 10th gen i7 10700K/KF (8 cores/16 threads) is at a really good price, almost too good to pass. And although the i9 10850K/KF (10 cores/20 threads) is more expensive and runs hot (water cooling on this one is recommended), it's a good bang for the buck too.

The K and KF means same unlocked chip (overclockable), only difference is that the K has integrated graphics, the KF does not and that's why it's slightly cheaper.

Notice that these don't come with a CPU cooler, so you must have (a good) one separately for them.

And although overclocking modern CPUs (be it Intel or AMD) no longer produces the sort of gains that we saw years ago, it's still nice to be able to push clocks higher with overclocking if desired.

If it's for DCS, or a pure gaming machine, I'd say to go for the i7 10700KF (or the K version if you really need the IGPU) because of the good price for performance:

For the motherboard, since you prefer Asus TUF series, the Asus TUF GAMING Z590-PLUS is a nice combination at a good price:

For the memory, go for 32GB (2x 16GB) which is the current sweet spot for DCS. Or perhaps even 64GB (2x 32GB) if you can stretch to that.
The Crucial Ballistix DDR4 3600 CL16 kits are excelent. Very performant, reliable and compatible (just ensure XMP is loaded in Bios and off you go) and at reasonable prices:

Edited July 26, 2021 by LucShep
added links for parts

AngleOff66 · July 26, 2021

Can you wait?

Leaks about alder lake are coming out, and if true, they look to be faster than the current intels. Possibly 22% better than an AMD 5950 is nothing to sniff at IMHO.

Skip to 9:36

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oY4pTQswMYE

BitMaster · July 26, 2021

The trend towards 64GB in DCS is slowly arriving with Syria and the newer modules.

If I was you and if you can afford it, go 64GB right away. It may be very tricky or impossible to add another 32GB a year later.

I would personally prefer an AMD these days but the above mentioned HW is fine as well. We have choices meanwhile.

TAW_Impalor · July 27, 2021

On 7/26/2021 at 12:09 AM, ctguy1955 said:

Win 10 only has until 2025 and then all MB's have to have TPL and My Maximus VII Formula does not, so I cant use win 11.

Wrong! I am loving W11 on my low PC.

BitMaster · July 28, 2021

If it only was for the TPM, that would be easy to solve on the MAXIMUS VII FORMULA as you can add a 20 ( 19+1 blind ) pin TPM 2.0 Module as stated in the Manual ( RTFM ! )

The actual deal breaker is your CPU which is unsupported for Win11.

Yaahh, this sux big time for many.

ctguy1955 · July 30, 2021

Thank You to everyone for Your help !!! I appreciate very much.
I will be buying a new CPU/RAM/MB soon.

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