9thHunt Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 Does anyone have any advice for keeping track of a bandit with the POV hat? I can't seem to move it fast enough to keep a bandit in sight in BFM, and I can't use my TrackIR because it gives me motion sickness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veteran66 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 Hi i use the Gladiator nxt GNX Premium Joystick with Ministick https://flightsimcontrols.com/product/gladiator-nxt/ the Ministick work fine with Opentrack 2.3.11 Beta (other Opentrack Versions work not fine) so you can look arround with the Ministick German WW2 Radio calls Mod: https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/2161798/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
draconus Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, 9thHunt said: Does anyone have any advice for keeping track of a bandit with the POV hat? I can't seem to move it fast enough to keep a bandit in sight in BFM, and I can't use my TrackIR because it gives me motion sickness. Afair there are slow and fast camera move bindings. Use the fast ones. To reset the view quickly use center view binding. You can even bind snapviews - it jumps instantly to preprogrammed view angles and recenter as soon as you release the hat to the center. Another idea. Haven't tested that one but instant view changes usually don't give nausea. You can use the TrackIR response (translations) curves so that the view changes in steps, not linear. So if you move your head enough it changes the view just like snapviews. Edited July 28, 2021 by draconus 1 Win10 i7-10700KF 32GB RTX3060 Rift S T16000M TWCS TFRP FC3 F-14A/B F-15E CA SC NTTR PG Syria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9thHunt Posted July 29, 2021 Author Share Posted July 29, 2021 23 hours ago, Veteran66 said: Hi i use the Gladiator nxt GNX Premium Joystick with Ministick https://flightsimcontrols.com/product/gladiator-nxt/ the Ministick work fine with Opentrack 2.3.11 Beta (other Opentrack Versions work not fine) so you can look arround with the Ministick I can already look around with the POV hat on my X-56. It does have a ministick though, does it work differently from the hat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
draconus Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 2 hours ago, 9thHunt said: I can already look around with the POV hat on my X-56. It does have a ministick though, does it work differently from the hat? I believe the ministick is analog axis while the POV is 8-way hat switch. With analog one you have smoother control and can tune it to your liking. Win10 i7-10700KF 32GB RTX3060 Rift S T16000M TWCS TFRP FC3 F-14A/B F-15E CA SC NTTR PG Syria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiGon Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 On 7/28/2021 at 5:05 AM, 9thHunt said: Does anyone have any advice for keeping track of a bandit with the POV hat? I can't seem to move it fast enough to keep a bandit in sight in BFM, and I can't use my TrackIR because it gives me motion sickness. I know VR can cause motion sickness, but this is the first time I heard of TrackIR causing motion sickness. I'm kinda curious what happens with the human brain there, as you are still looking at the same screen than you do without using TrackIR. Anyways, another alternative to a POV hat would be the padlocking function in DCS, that keeps track of the bandit automatically. Keep in mind though that this is disabled on some (most?) MP servers. Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9thHunt Posted July 29, 2021 Author Share Posted July 29, 2021 12 hours ago, QuiGon said: I know VR can cause motion sickness, but this is the first time I heard of TrackIR causing motion sickness. I'm kinda curious what happens with the human brain there, as you are still looking at the same screen than you do without using TrackIR. I think what gets me is the fact that I'm turning my whole head and still trying to focus on the fixed screen with both eyes. Also, I get carsick really easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiGon Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 1 minute ago, 9thHunt said: I think what gets me is the fact that I'm turning my whole head and still trying to focus on the fixed screen with both eyes. Also, I get carsick really easily. I see, thanks! Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lange_666 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 10 hours ago, 9thHunt said: I think what gets me is the fact that I'm turning my whole head and still trying to focus on the fixed screen with both eyes. Also, I get carsick really easily. You can try an aggressive profile so you don't have to turn your head that much if that causes the motion sickness. On the other hand, it moves your view then real quick which can also trigger the motion sickness. Win11 Pro 64-bit, Ryzen 5800X3D, Corsair H115i, Gigabyte X570S UD, EVGA 3080Ti XC3 Ultra 12GB, 64 GB DDR4 G.Skill 3600. Monitors: LG 27GL850-B27 2560x1440 + Samsung SyncMaster 2443 1920x1200, HOTAS: Warthog with Virpil WarBRD base, MFG Crosswind combat pedals, TrackIR4, Rift-S. Personal Wish List: A6 Intruder, Vietnam theater, decent ATC module, better VR performance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiob Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 On 7/28/2021 at 5:05 AM, 9thHunt said: Does anyone have any advice for keeping track of a bandit with the POV hat? I can't seem to move it fast enough to keep a bandit in sight in BFM, and I can't use my TrackIR because it gives me motion sickness. Try to reduce the smoothing in trackir. In exchange slow (reduce) the curves. Sounds counter intuitive, but the lag induced through the smoothing can give the motion sickness, if someone is very sensitive. Dogfighting without headtracking is and will always be extremely hard - no matter the workaround. ...oh - and make sure that the headtracking settings is as close to "natural" movement as possible. Check the "Trueview" box. Hope, you get adjusted. "Muß ich denn jedes Mal, wenn ich sauge oder saugblase den Schlauchstecker in die Schlauchnut schieben?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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