Since todays update (DCS 2.7.7.14727) flying the F-14 constantly crashes the game after some time.

Buzzer1977 · October 20, 2021

I've already sent the error reports with the diag tool.

maximov · October 21, 2021

There are no obvious errors in the log. Try to check the integrity of the game cache.
You have a great computer. But still try to reduce the graphics settings and check the work of the DCS.

maximov · October 21, 2021

And one more question: does the game crash when using other modules?

Buzzer1977 · October 21, 2021

7 hours ago, maximov said:

There are no obvious errors in the log. Try to check the integrity of the game cache.
You have a great computer. But still try to reduce the graphics settings and check the work of the DCS.

Verified game installation, no bad files.
I'll give it a try with reduced graphics settings.

7 hours ago, maximov said:

And one more question: does the game crash when using other modules?

It now also happened in the F/A-18c. Took more time then in the F-14 to crash, but it did.
My first thought has been it's F-14 related, because it happened most often on typical AC related stuff like jester calling 'bingo fuel' or on touch down.
But now it just crashed on flight in a F/A-18. log is attached.

dcs.log-20211021-190630.zip

Buzzer1977 · October 21, 2021

Also with reduced graphics in the F/A-18c it crashed.

dcs.log-20211021-212643.zip

maximov · October 21, 2021

2021-10-21 18:52:11.696 ERROR Lua::Config: Call error LuaExportAfterNextFrame:[string "C:\Users\heiko\Saved Games\DCS\Scripts\Export.lua"]:97: attempt to index global 'tcp' (a nil value)
or

2021-10-21 21:20:54.188 ERROR Lua::Config: Call error LuaExportAfterNextFrame:[string "C:\Users\heiko\Saved Games\DCS\Scripts\Export.lua"]:97: attempt to index global 'tcp' (a nil value)

Please delete the C:\Users\heiko\Saved Games\DCS\Scripts folder

Buzzer1977 · October 21, 2021

1 hour ago, maximov said:

Please delete the C:\Users\heiko\Saved Games\DCS\Scripts folder

Deleted the Scripts folder, but it crashed again ....

dcs.log-20211021-230220.zip

maximov · October 22, 2021

Try to verify integrity of game cache again. If this does not solve the problem, please switch to the stable version and check the work of the DCS.

Buzzer1977 · October 22, 2021

11 hours ago, maximov said:

Try to verify integrity of game cache again. If this does not solve the problem, please switch to the stable version and check the work of the DCS.

Switching back to stable and then back to openbeta will take 1-2 days to download with the crapy internet connection i have. So that's not an option. I'd rather live with the crashes for some time and hope that the issue will disappear as it arose with the next OpenBeta.

Buzzer1977 · October 22, 2021

Problem solved by disabeling XMP. Don't know what's going wrong there, because i don't do overclocking, just set the standard RAM parameters via XMP.
Something with the latest open beta is doing strange stuff it seems.

Flappie · October 22, 2021

XMP is factory overclocking (link).

Thanks for your feedback.

Buzzer1977 · October 22, 2021

"XMP Certified - Module was programmed with profiles that have passed supplier tests for the CPU and motherboard."
The Modules i have are XMP certified with my board and CPU, that's not what i would call 'Overclocking', it's DDR4-3200 MHz RAM with the specified JDEC timing of the product.

Edited October 22, 2021 by Buzzer1977

Flappie · October 22, 2021

Well, maybe they should include "run DCS will all options turned on" in their supplier tests...

Bagpipe · October 22, 2021

Stuff that helped me with random crashes lately;

1. Deleting all shaders including metashaders and all shadercache folders in terrain module folders etc.

2. making sure my paging file was exactly the right size for the amount of RAM I have on board

3. creating a new saved games folder

4. running a slow repair of DCS

5. cleaning out ALL the dust from the gpu sink etc.

You could give them a bash. Hope it helps

Buzzer1977 · October 22, 2021

Too early
It was way more stable with MXP turned of, but not stable enough. First crash with XMP disabled after a 3-4 hours without crash. With XMP it crashed every 10 - 15 minutes into a mission.

dcs.log-20211022-233127.zip

maximov · October 23, 2021

2021-10-22 23:31:26.633 INFO EDCORE: G:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\DCSWorld\bin\DCS.exe or

2021-10-21 23:17:31.733 INFO EDCORE: G:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\DCSWorld\bin\DCS.exe or

2021-10-20 23:39:00.697 INFO EDCORE: G:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\DCSWorld\bin\DCS.exe

We have some suspicions that this is a mistake on our side. But it will take us some time to find the reason.

Buzzer1977 · October 23, 2021

19 hours ago, Flappie said:

Well, maybe they should include "run DCS will all options turned on" in their supplier tests...

Well, i think ED should evaluate this first

maximov · October 26, 2021

The solution to the problem should appear in the next update.

Fynek · October 28, 2021

Same issue but with Mi8 as i only flew that so far, since this new patch now i crashed three times in a row after some time in GAW. I was almost never crashing before.

I did all the usual stuff, delete fxo, metashaders and reset the shaders in AMD control panel, but something is very wrong for me with this patch on open beta, i need to go back to stable.

Edited October 28, 2021 by Fynek

Flappie · October 28, 2021

Please attach the most recent ZIP file you can find in your "Saved Games/DCS.../Logs" folder.

HunterICX · October 31, 2021

Had 2 crashes today flying the F14 on Syria at War. Both happened when I was on the ground at incirlik after a sortie rearming and refueling. Logs are attached to this post

dcs.log-20211031-131205.zip dcs.log-20211031-150825.zip

Comox · October 31, 2021

Had 15 crashes with log since the last beta update. But many more without log. I did a cleanup and a repair still CTD. I can fly 4-5 min and the CTD... here are my last 2 logs. It happen with any aircraft, local or multi.

dcs.log-20211031-191332.zip

dcs.log-20211031-202444.zip

Edited October 31, 2021 by Comox

Flappie · October 31, 2021

Thank you, gents.

@HunterICXYou're having a bunch of E_OUTOFMEMORY erros before your crashes. You may want to check your RAM. Try a MemTest to see if your RAM is OK. Then try disabling XMP and see if the game keeps crashing.

@ComoxIt seems your game was unable to find the graphcis card while it was tying to compile a shader. You have quite a few mods loaded. Maybe try disabling them and see if the issue continues.

2021-10-31 20:23:48.664 DEBUG   LuaGUI: ----onSimulationResume---
2021-10-31 20:24:43.235 ERROR   DX11BACKEND: DX device removed. Reason: 0x887A0006
2021-10-31 20:24:43.278 WARNING LOG: 1 duplicate message(s) skipped.
2021-10-31 20:24:43.278 ERROR   DX11BACKEND: failed to create structed buffer. Reason: DXGI_ERROR_DEVICE_REMOVED
2021-10-31 20:24:43.278 ERROR   DX11BACKEND: CreateShaderResourceView FAILED. Reason: E_INVALIDARG
2021-10-31 20:24:43.279 INFO    EDCORE: try to write dump information
2021-10-31 20:24:43.395 INFO    EDCORE: # -------------- 20211031-202444 --------------
2021-10-31 20:24:43.511 INFO    EDCORE: DCS/2.7.7.15038 (x86_64; Windows NT 10.0.19043)
2021-10-31 20:24:43.513 INFO    EDCORE: C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\d3d11.dll
2021-10-31 20:24:43.515 INFO    EDCORE: # C0000005 ACCESS_VIOLATION at 125198A0 00:00000000
2021-10-31 20:24:43.518 INFO    EDCORE: SymInit: Symbol-SearchPath: '.;F:\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World OpenBeta;F:\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World OpenBeta\bin;C:\Windows;C:\Windows\system32;SRV*C:\websymbols*https://msdl.microsoft.com/download/symbols;', symOptions: 528, UserName: 'chanc'
2021-10-31 20:24:43.521 INFO    EDCORE: OS-Version: 10.0.19043 () 0x300-0x1
2021-10-31 20:24:43.972 INFO    EDCORE: 0x00000000001298A0 (d3d11): CreateDirect3D11SurfaceFromDXGISurface + 0x10310
2021-10-31 20:24:43.975 INFO    EDCORE: 0x000000000002FBA1 (dx11backend): createRenderer + 0x18381
2021-10-31 20:24:43.977 INFO    EDCORE: 0x000000000007AE07 (edterrainGraphics41): edtg41::TerrainRenderable::dumpRenderItem + 0x6A0D7
2021-10-31 20:24:43.977 INFO    EDCORE: 0x00000000000D0262 (edterrainGraphics41): createInstancerRenderable + 0x37352
2021-10-31 20:24:43.977 INFO    EDCORE: 0x00000000000CBD08 (edterrainGraphics41): createInstancerRenderable + 0x32DF8
2021-10-31 20:24:43.977 INFO    EDCORE: 0x00000000000CCF80 (edterrainGraphics41): createInstancerRenderable + 0x34070
2021-10-31 20:24:43.978 INFO    EDCORE: 0x00000000000D86C8 (edCore): ed::this_thread::yield + 0x4D8
2021-10-31 20:24:43.978 INFO    EDCORE: 0x00000000000CF5CA (edCore): ed::make_main_thread_tasks + 0x1A
2021-10-31 20:24:43.978 INFO    EDCORE: 0x000000000081C110 (DCS): SW + 0x51AF70
2021-10-31 20:24:43.978 INFO    EDCORE: 0x00000000007ECA34 (DCS): SW + 0x4EB894
2021-10-31 20:24:43.978 INFO    EDCORE: 0x00000000007ECE0D (DCS): SW + 0x4EBC6D
2021-10-31 20:24:43.978 INFO    EDCORE: 0x0000000001CD5BAD (DCS): AmdPowerXpressRequestHighPerformance + 0xEB6BA9
2021-10-31 20:24:43.978 INFO    EDCORE: 0x0000000000A2D1AE (DCS): SW + 0x72C00E
2021-10-31 20:24:43.978 INFO    EDCORE: 0x0000000000017034 (KERNEL32): BaseThreadInitThunk + 0x14
2021-10-31 20:24:43.978 INFO    EDCORE: 0x0000000000052651 (ntdll): RtlUserThreadStart + 0x21
2021-10-31 20:24:44.137 INFO    EDCORE: Minidump created.

By the way, both of you had a crash related to MiG-21 bis resources loading. But maybe it was just a coincidence.

HunterICX · October 31, 2021

@Flappie Already ran a Windows Memtest and Memtest86 ran a few passes, came up empty in that area.

Also ran a repair, cleared shaders from DCS, DirectX and AMD. Also updated my GPU drivers as there happen to be one pending for me to install. I'll try other modules and other maps as well as this happened on a busy day on Syria at War, the game was already taking 31,6GB of RAM before I even got into the Tomcat. If it still crashes then I'll try disabling the XMP , this problem is something I haven't experienced before the latest OB update and I had never had issues with have the XMP profile enabled.

Flappie · October 31, 2021

31,6 GB RAM, eh? Since you "only" have 32 GB of RAM (so do I), you should ensure your pagefile goes beyond 4 GB.

2021-10-31 11:54:20.905 INFO    APP: CPU cores: 8, threads: 16, System RAM: 32698 MB, Pagefile: 4864 MB

You can manually set it this way:

initial size : 32768 (32 GB)
max size : 32768 (32 GB)

Before you do this, ensure you have enough free space in the pagefile hosting drive.

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