Why still no symmetric 2x GBU-24 + 2x GBU-10 loadout on Bombcat after all these years??

[D4n]

Dear Tomcat pilots/professionals/dear Heatblur, why is the heaviest bombload in our DCS Bombcat still only 2x GBU-24, 1x GBU-10 + 1x GBU-16 instead of a perfectly symmetric (thus more airworthy) 2x GBU-24 + 2x GBU-10 loadout? (and please don't come with a simple "GBU-24 can't fit next to GBU-10". It obviously can, see DCS screenshot below... )

 

Edited October 31, 2021 by D4n

[Baz000]

I'm not sure and can't speak for HB or SMEs, etc... But just because a weapon system physically "fits" doesn't mean weapon separation flight testing didn't show when released into the air stream it would separate cleanly without banging into other hanging weapons or the aircraft itself. Maybe it has something to do with that, I don't really know.

[near_blind]

Because those buzz kills at China Lake say that two GBU-24s side by side create separation issues, but what do those nerds know?

[lunaticfringe]

1 hour ago, near_blind said:

Because those buzz kills at China Lake say that two GBU-24s side by side create separation issues, but what do those nerds know?

This.  GBU-24 is cleared on stations 3 and 5 only.

[D4n]

And GBU-10 not cleared for that station where there's a GBU-16 in my screenshot??? (idk the station number)

[lunaticfringe]

GBU-10 is 3 and 6 only.  

3/6 - Front
4/5 - Rear

[Nealius]

Is there a comprehensive, publicly available list of what stores are cleared on which stations? I found the Harrier's TAC-050 (or is it -000?), but I'm having trouble finding the Tomcat equivlalent (especially with all the NATOPS that's watmarked with a virtual CVW logo; don't know what's geniune and what's sim).

[Baz000]

This is information that should be included in the Heatblur F-14 DCS manual once it is near completion I would think.

[Nealius]

Stores limitations typically aren't mentioned in DCS manuals/guides unless it's a "can carry but not fire from that station" situation. 

Edited October 31, 2021 by Nealius

[Naquaii]

10 hours ago, D4n said:

Dear Tomcat pilots/professionals/dear Heatblur, why is the heaviest bombload in our DCS Bombcat still only 2x GBU-24, 1x GBU-10 + 1x GBU-16 instead of a perfectly symmetric (thus more airworthy) 2x GBU-24 + 2x GBU-10 loadout? (and please don't come with a simple "GBU-24 can't fit next to GBU-10". It obviously can, see DCS screenshot below... )

 

 

Because the weapon/payload manuals clearly state the GBU-10s only being cleared for 3 & 6 and the GBU-24s only for 3 and 5. Also there's way more to a specific loadout being more "airworthy" just than it being symmetrical.

As for this being the heaviest bombload I beg to differ. When I want to really wreck something I go 18xMk-82 or 10xMk-83...

5 hours ago, Baz000 said:

This is information that should be included in the Heatblur F-14 DCS manual once it is near completion I would think.

http://heatblur.se/F-14Manual/weapons.html#f-14-loadout-diagram

[D4n]

Ah okay Naquii, thanks! Sadly Mk-82/83 are inaccurate from high altitude when a little bit wind (because unguided), so I'm curious what the loadout with the most LGBs is. Is that only 4 GBUs in total, max LGB amount?

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GBU-10s only being cleared for 3 & 6 and the GBU-24s only for 3 and 5

very strange. okay.

Edited December 12, 2021 by D4n

[Naquaii]

8 minutes ago, D4n said:

Ah okay Naquii, thanks! Sadly Mk-82/83 are inaccurate from high altitude when a little bit wind (because unguided), so I'm curious what the loadout with the most LGBs is. Is that only 4 GBUs in total, max LGB amount?

very strange. okay.

 

Yes, 4 GBUs is the max amount as it's only the fuselage stations that were cleared for those.

It's also likely that when carrying GBU-24s that were the only bombs allowed, so no bombs on the other two stations at the same time. But I haven't found explicit evidence for that. IRL they didn't mix them up that much.

Edited December 12, 2021 by Naquaii