CrazyGman Posted December 23, 2021 Posted December 23, 2021 (edited) So we see The Mirage F1 dumping flares in the trailer and what appears to be flare/chaff dispensers however these look different to the ones seen in other documents that required external mounting. I did hear that the Spanish Mirage F1s had integrated chaff/flares dispensers. Can anyone elaborate? Edited December 23, 2021 by CrazyGman
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Northstar98 Posted December 23, 2021 Posted December 23, 2021 I'm guessing it's probably just a texture, I can't find anything for Spanish or Moroccan F.1s that have integrated countermeasure dispensers. I've only come across the Corail chaff/flare and the Phimat chaff dispensers, the Corail system is mounted conformally underneath the wings, and the Phimat takes up a hardpoint. From what information I can find, the Moroccan F1EM IV (MF2000 upgrade) has access to both. Modules I own: F-14A/B, F-4E, Mi-24P, AJS 37, AV-8B N/A, F-5E-3, MiG-21bis, F-16CM, F/A-18C, Supercarrier, Mi-8MTV2, UH-1H, Mirage 2000C, FC3, MiG-15bis, Ka-50, A-10C (+ A-10C II), P-47D, P-51D, C-101, Yak-52, WWII Assets, CA, NS430, Hawk. Terrains I own: South Atlantic, Syria, The Channel, SoH/PG, Marianas. System: GIGABYTE B650 AORUS ELITE AX, AMD Ryzen 5 7600, Corsair Vengeance DDR5-5200 32 GB, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070S FE, Western Digital Black SN850X 1 TB (DCS dedicated) & 2 TB NVMe SSDs, Corsair RM850X 850 W, NZXT H7 Flow, MSI G274CV. Peripherals: VKB Gunfighter Mk.II w. MCG Pro, MFG Crosswind V3 Graphite, Logitech Extreme 3D Pro.
TLTeo Posted December 23, 2021 Posted December 23, 2021 I would expect the Spanish F1Ms to have some sort of integrated dispenser system tbh. People are going way overboard with variants, we're definitely not getting something as specific as a Moroccan upgraded one.
Northstar98 Posted December 23, 2021 Posted December 23, 2021 29 minutes ago, TLTeo said: I would expect the Spanish F1Ms to have some sort of integrated dispenser system tbh. People are going way overboard with variants, we're definitely not getting something as specific as a Moroccan upgraded one. I think you're right, it looks like the F1M does appear to have a countermeasure dispenser where the OP highlighted on the 1st screenshot, though the aircraft in said screenshot lacks an AAR probe, which suggests to me its probably the CE with a Moroccan livery: Modules I own: F-14A/B, F-4E, Mi-24P, AJS 37, AV-8B N/A, F-5E-3, MiG-21bis, F-16CM, F/A-18C, Supercarrier, Mi-8MTV2, UH-1H, Mirage 2000C, FC3, MiG-15bis, Ka-50, A-10C (+ A-10C II), P-47D, P-51D, C-101, Yak-52, WWII Assets, CA, NS430, Hawk. Terrains I own: South Atlantic, Syria, The Channel, SoH/PG, Marianas. System: GIGABYTE B650 AORUS ELITE AX, AMD Ryzen 5 7600, Corsair Vengeance DDR5-5200 32 GB, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070S FE, Western Digital Black SN850X 1 TB (DCS dedicated) & 2 TB NVMe SSDs, Corsair RM850X 850 W, NZXT H7 Flow, MSI G274CV. Peripherals: VKB Gunfighter Mk.II w. MCG Pro, MFG Crosswind V3 Graphite, Logitech Extreme 3D Pro.
CrazyGman Posted December 23, 2021 Author Posted December 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Northstar98 said: I'm guessing it's probably just a texture, I can't find anything for Spanish or Moroccan F.1s that have integrated countermeasure dispensers. I've only come across the Corail chaff/flare and the Phimat chaff dispensers, the Corail system is mounted conformally underneath the wings, and the Phimat takes up a hardpoint. From what information I can find, the Moroccan F1EM IV (MF2000 upgrade) has access to both. It seems some Spanish F1's have it and some do not from these pictures.
CrazyGman Posted December 23, 2021 Author Posted December 23, 2021 10 minutes ago, Northstar98 said: I think you're right, it looks like the F1M does appear to have a countermeasure dispenser where the OP highlighted on the 1st screenshot, though the aircraft in said screenshot lacks an AAR probe, which suggests to me its probably the CE with a Moroccan livery:
Northstar98 Posted December 23, 2021 Posted December 23, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, CrazyGman said: It seems some Spanish F1's have it and some do not from these pictures. I think it's still there in your 2nd picture, it's just loaded (and so appears white), your other pictures show what one looks like empty. DCS doesn't model the individual cartridges, so they always appear either filled or empty (some modules have the depicted as full, some depict them as empty). 2 minutes ago, CrazyGman said: Oh, are there 2 differenty types of Mirage F1M, one with and one without? Edited December 23, 2021 by Northstar98 Modules I own: F-14A/B, F-4E, Mi-24P, AJS 37, AV-8B N/A, F-5E-3, MiG-21bis, F-16CM, F/A-18C, Supercarrier, Mi-8MTV2, UH-1H, Mirage 2000C, FC3, MiG-15bis, Ka-50, A-10C (+ A-10C II), P-47D, P-51D, C-101, Yak-52, WWII Assets, CA, NS430, Hawk. Terrains I own: South Atlantic, Syria, The Channel, SoH/PG, Marianas. System: GIGABYTE B650 AORUS ELITE AX, AMD Ryzen 5 7600, Corsair Vengeance DDR5-5200 32 GB, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070S FE, Western Digital Black SN850X 1 TB (DCS dedicated) & 2 TB NVMe SSDs, Corsair RM850X 850 W, NZXT H7 Flow, MSI G274CV. Peripherals: VKB Gunfighter Mk.II w. MCG Pro, MFG Crosswind V3 Graphite, Logitech Extreme 3D Pro.
TLTeo Posted December 23, 2021 Posted December 23, 2021 It could also be as simple as the F1 fleet receiving its updates slowly over time and having a bunch of frankenjets flying for a few years.
CrazyGman Posted December 23, 2021 Author Posted December 23, 2021 3 minutes ago, Northstar98 said: I think it's still there in your 2nd picture, it's just loaded (and so appears white), your other pictures show what one looks like empty. DCS doesn't model the individual cartridges, so they always appear either filled or empty. Oh, are there 2 differenty types of Mirage F1M, one with and one without? Seems to be EE and CEs with them too
CrazyGman Posted December 23, 2021 Author Posted December 23, 2021 Just now, TLTeo said: It could also be as simple as the F1 fleet receiving its updates slowly over time and having a bunch of frankenjets flying for a few years. Probably.
Northstar98 Posted December 23, 2021 Posted December 23, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, CrazyGman said: Huh, well you learn something new every day, in which case, I'm pretty sure your OP simply shows a Mirage F1CE with a Moroccan livery. Edited December 23, 2021 by Northstar98 Modules I own: F-14A/B, F-4E, Mi-24P, AJS 37, AV-8B N/A, F-5E-3, MiG-21bis, F-16CM, F/A-18C, Supercarrier, Mi-8MTV2, UH-1H, Mirage 2000C, FC3, MiG-15bis, Ka-50, A-10C (+ A-10C II), P-47D, P-51D, C-101, Yak-52, WWII Assets, CA, NS430, Hawk. Terrains I own: South Atlantic, Syria, The Channel, SoH/PG, Marianas. System: GIGABYTE B650 AORUS ELITE AX, AMD Ryzen 5 7600, Corsair Vengeance DDR5-5200 32 GB, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070S FE, Western Digital Black SN850X 1 TB (DCS dedicated) & 2 TB NVMe SSDs, Corsair RM850X 850 W, NZXT H7 Flow, MSI G274CV. Peripherals: VKB Gunfighter Mk.II w. MCG Pro, MFG Crosswind V3 Graphite, Logitech Extreme 3D Pro.
CrazyGman Posted December 23, 2021 Author Posted December 23, 2021 Just now, Northstar98 said: Huh, well you learn something new every day, in which case, I'm pretty sure your OP just shows a reskinned Mirage F1CE Yeah that makes sense, it does seem a bit tricky to get information on what has what, but Then with all planes exported and done in different batches (not to mention traded between airforces) it's hard to nail down concrete info.
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