Res of Cockpit Displays

[Caldera]

Hey All,

Tooltips:

The preferable resolution for MFD and other cockpits displays.

Small GPU hit.

 

I may be a complete ningcompoop, but what exactly does this mean? 

If I look at my MFD with the TGP as SOI there seems to be no setting that will produce a change.  At least what my bad eyes can see.  Nor, does it really effect my FPS much at all that I have been able to determine.  This is considering that the TGP is in itself is a major hit to FPS (around 8-10 fps on my system at times).

I run two monitors with the MFCD's positioned on the second monitor which is a 15.6 inch flat screen running at 1920 x 1080 @ 60 hz (main monitor 2560 x 1080 @ 144 hz).  So each MFCD that I physically see is about 7.5 inches square or 960 x 960 pixels.  I also can see the MFD's on the main monitor display, of course.  I can detect no difference in any of the Res of Cockpit Displays settings either on my main monitor or the second monitor. 

Frankly, the jaggies are pretty bad and the display is fuzzy as well as quite a of shimmering from what I would guess to be a lack of enough anti-aliasing.  My system can really only support MSAA X2 right now.  I am also running Anisotropic Filtering on the X8 setting.  These settings seem adequate for in cockpit and out of cockpit views. 

 

I have never personally seen DCS running on any another computer other than my own.  (The exception might be YouTube videos)

Is what I am seeing about normal?

What do the numbers 256, 512 or 1024 actually mean?

Are these displays normally interlaced or something?   (ex: 1024 Every Frame is an option)

 

Merry Christmas,

Thanks in advance,

Caldera

Edited December 24, 2021 by Caldera

[toutenglisse]

This setting is detailed page 24 of DCS user manual EN 2020.pdf, the only clearly visible difference for me has been on aircraft mirrors.

[Taz1004]

2 hours ago, Caldera said:

Hey All,

Tooltips:

The preferable resolution for MFD and other cockpits displays.

Small GPU hit.

 

I may be a complete ningcompoop, but what exactly does this mean? 

If I look at my MFD with the TGP as SOI there seems to be no setting that will produce a change.  At least what my bad eyes can see.  Nor, does it really effect my FPS much at all that I have been able to determine.  This is considering that the TGP is in itself is a major hit to FPS (around 8-10 fps on my system at times).

I run two monitors with the MFCD's positioned on the second monitor which is a 15.6 inch flat screen running at 1920 x 1080 @ 60 hz (main monitor 2560 x 1080 @ 144 hz).  So each MFCD that I physically see is about 7.5 inches square or 960 x 960 pixels.  I also can see the MFD's on the main monitor display, of course.  I can detect no difference in any of the Res of Cockpit Displays settings either on my main monitor or the second monitor. 

Frankly, the jaggies are pretty bad and the display is fuzzy as well as quite a of shimmering from what I would guess to be a lack of enough anti-aliasing.  My system can really only support MSAA X2 right now.  I am also running Anisotropic Filtering on the X8 setting.  These settings seem adequate for in cockpit and out of cockpit views. 

 

I have never personally seen DCS running on any another computer other than my own.  (The exception might be YouTube videos)

Is what I am seeing about normal?

What do the numbers 256, 512 or 1024 actually mean?

Are these displays normally interlaced or something?   (ex: 1024 Every Frame is an option)

 

Merry Christmas,

Thanks in advance,

Caldera

 

It doesn't say but that option requires restart.  Every frame option is important for VR in my case.  With motion reprojection, it gets really choppy with bad ghosting if I don't use every frame option.

Those who benchmark this feature should do so with both Maverick, and FLIR display on with smoke on the displays.  Most of them I saw only do it with cockpit mirrors.  And can't show on still images but the  pixels really crawl in motion at 256.  I use 512 every frame.

Shkval

 

A10C-II

Edited December 24, 2021 by Taz1004

[Caldera]

Touten,

Thanks!

But this,

"RES. OF COCKPIT DISPLAYS. Set the resolution of cockpit displays such as mirrors, targeting video indicators, multifunction displays, moving maps, etc. Note that higher resolution settings can negatively impact the smoothness of game play."

is an answer that is not an answer.

FWIW I do not use mirrors, mostly to control FPS.

Taz,

3 hours ago, Taz1004 said:

It doesn't say but that option requires restart.

Thanks!

It seems that I did an assume.  Because a change did not force a DCS restart (like quite a few others do) I assumed that it did not need one for a change to take place.

Any idea what 256 or 1024 resolution actually means?  It just seems arbitrary to me, but indeed 1024 is the way to go.

Caldera

Edited December 24, 2021 by Caldera

[Taz1004]

50 minutes ago, Caldera said:

Any idea what 256 or 1024 resolution actually means?

Not sure what you mean.  It's resolution of the display in pixels.

If you're asking why those numbers, it's power of 2.

2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64, 128, 256, 512, 1024, 2048

It's how computer communicates.  They don't like numbers that don't divide by 2.

Edited December 25, 2021 by Taz1004

[Caldera]

Taz,

LOL  At this point I am not sure what I mean...

A resolution is described as 1920 x 1080, for example.   It basically is the number of pixels horizontally and vertically on a monitor.   A resolution is usually not described as a number like 256, 512 or 1024.  And for example, a setting of 1024 can not mean 1024 x 1024 as that would encompass about 45% of a 1920 x 1080 monitor.

See what I am getting at?

Caldera

[Taz1004]

22 minutes ago, Caldera said:

Taz,

LOL  At this point I am not sure what I mean...

A resolution is described as 1920 x 1080, for example.   It basically is the number of pixels horizontally and vertically on a monitor.   A resolution is usually not described as a number like 256, 512 or 1024.  And for example, a setting of 1024 can not mean 1024 x 1024 as that would encompass about 45% of a 1920 x 1080 monitor.

See what I am getting at?

Caldera

When there's just one number it's usually square.  As most MFD's are square.  If not square, it refers to vertical resolution.  Such as 1920x1080 are called 1080P.

And 1024 would mean the size of the render texture.  What's displayed on your MFD are basically animated texture.  Just as other textures in your cockpit have specific texture size, doesn't mean it's related to your display resolution.

Edited December 25, 2021 by Taz1004

[marcwoolery]

Since you are using a separate monitor for MFDs what software are you employing ?  I am going round and round trying to find something that works well and doesnt involve a soldering iron... Is DCS ever going to offer the POPOUT Instruments like MSFS or XPLANE ? You know click and drag an instrument to your second monitor ? 

PS if you use an Nvidia card try the Sharpness setting or DRS if you have it .. will usually only show in "Global Settings"

Its unclear if the features only shown in Global will have an affect on games that dont offer  the setting. 

IT s just 1 more complex black box to pry open.  I miss my old car...

Regards

Edited January 20, 2022 by marcwoolery
added pic

[Caldera]

Marc,

I figured out my problem with Taz's help.  All I had to do is restart DCS after changing the setting.  I had not been doing this before.

I do use Sharpness, I have not tried changing DSR.  Does it impact FPS?

 

I use no special software.  I have a custom view file that I have used ever since I wished to have the MFCD's off the main screen for easier viewing.  It is relatively easy to do and it is a part of DCS.  Let me know If you would like advice or a copy of my MonitorSetup lua file.  Some specific set-up is required.

 

My MFCD monitor is very crisp and is a 16 inch flat screen.  The TGP view is as good as DCS provides.  I did change the resolution to 1366 x 768 for a test.  There does not seem to be any visual difference in the DCS TGP MFCD display between 1920 x 1080 and 1366 x 768.  I am also running fewer pixels through my GPU that helps FPS just a small amount.  I can also read the text much easier for other applications I might use the monitor for.

Caldera