GUIK, Sweden, Norway, and Finland Map

[Mike Force Team]

Here is a suggestion.  Let's have a map that features Greenland, Iceland, and United Kingdom (GUIK), Norway, Finland, and Sweden.  This part of the world could be used for either WW 2 or for a Cold War campaign.  Plenty, plenty of room for the surface and submerged naval assets and abundant land for airplanes/jets/choppers to land at.  Just include the appropriate military bases, harbors, airports, and cities.  

[MAXsenna]

Keep'em coming Mike! 

[Mike Force Team]

For the Scandanavian countries like Sweden and Switzerland, the Viggen jets are at home.  They are in their elements when flying in the mountains or attacking ships at sea with their anti-shipping cruise missles.

[Tippis]

That would be, oh, roughly 40x larger than  DCS maps have been capable of so far…

22 minutes ago, Mike Force Team said:

For the Scandanavian countries like Sweden and Switzerland, the Viggen jets are at home. 

Eh… Sorry, this was just painful to read.  

[MAXsenna]

12 hours ago, Mike Force Team said:

For the Scandanavian countries like Sweden and Switzerland, the Viggen jets are at home.  They are in their elements when flying in the mountains or attacking ships at sea with their anti-shipping cruise missles.

There are only three Scandinavian countries Mike, and Switzerland it's not one of those.

[Northstar98]

I definitely agree with doing a GIUK Gap map (a certain, lite-simulator used to have one for its North Atlantic expansion), but let's not get too carried away we here...

Personally, I'd stick with Iceland, the Faroe Islands, the Shetland Islands, and at a stretch Scotland (at least extending to RAF Kinloss, but preferably RAF Leuchars (fun fact, I used to live right next to Leuchars when I was much younger)).

The most populated area would be Reykjavík, and much of the map would mostly be concerned with terrain mesh and textures.

The only thing I will say, is because such a map would be very expansive (at least as expansive as the Marianas), it would be better if we transition to a spherical coordinates system and maps that fit on a sphere.

There are also quite a few assets missing to really flesh a potential map out.

Edited January 23, 2022 by Northstar98

[cfrag]

18 hours ago, Mike Force Team said:

For the Scandanavian countries like Sweden and Switzerland,

Yup, classic Mike.

 

[Snappy]

19 hours ago, Mike Force Team said:

Here is a suggestion.  Let's have a map that features Greenland, Iceland, and United Kingdom (GUIK), Norway, Finland, and Sweden.  This part of the world could be used for either WW 2 or for a Cold War campaign.  Plenty, plenty of room for the surface and submerged naval assets and abundant land for airplanes/jets/choppers to land at.  Just include the appropriate military bases, harbors, airports, and cities.  

It’s called GIUK . 

[F-2]

11 hours ago, MAXsenna said:

There are only three Scandinavian countries Mike, and Switzerland it's not one of those.

That’s the scenario, your a Swiss pilot fighting off hordes of the Neoviking coalition looking to control vital Swiss chocolate reserves.

[MAXsenna]

That’s the scenario, your a Swiss pilot fighting off hordes of the Neoviking coalition looking to control vital Swiss chocolate reserves.

Haha!
Yeah, and in the "modern" world, the Neovikings wouldn't be needing rivers to get there.
ROTFL
Thanks!

PS: I truly deeply love Europa! Crossing the borders Sweden, Denmark and Deutschland, and then I'm there! I have no idea how many times I've been to the different countries. Don't wanna go home ever. (Lie, home sweet home)
I did manage to drive from Zurich to the German/Danish border in five and half hour once though.


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[Dragon1-1]

I'm pretty sure that a properly sized North Atlantic map would be way too large for the DCS engine, especially since we don't have proper simulation of Earth's curvature. GIUK gap is friggin' huge, Marianas are nothing compared to this, and even South Atlantic, which had been said to be at the edge of feasibility, would be dwarfed by such a map. Form Iceland to Scotland it's about 1000km, a little less than twice the distance from Falklands to the mainland. I don't think DCS engine can handle a map of that size. Given the type of operations that would be happening there, it'd have to be even larger than that, since Russians, not having much in terms of carriers, would be using long range aviation to support their fleets.

Maybe let's stick to maps that are suitable for our current roster, which is short to mid range tactical aircraft.

[Mike Force Team]

Since ED has produced smaller maps, I figured let's go large.  I will assume that ED is aware they can get additional virtual hosting services from Amazon. As for the long flights, you can add extra fuel tanks and aerial tankers.

I hope ED would create the needed software that models the curvature of the earth. I am certain that some software simulation company would have what ED needs. Of course, budget and prices are considerations. 

[MAXsenna]

@Dragon1-1
While true, this will eventually happen, and Mike's just ahead of time, and in the Wishlist section he can ask for whatever pleases him. 
It's actually one of my highlights of the day reading them!
Go @Mike Force Team! 

[Dragon1-1]

Well, this will eventually happen, as if, we'll one day have a map of the whole world, which will obviously include the GIUK gap (and hopefully curvature, which would be kind of important here). I have no idea how ED is planning to implement this, and whether my poor 500GB SSD will survive the ensuing patch, but they've stated in no uncertain terms that it's the plan. 

[Northstar98]

11 hours ago, Dragon1-1 said:

I'm pretty sure that a properly sized North Atlantic map would be way too large for the DCS engine, especially since we don't have proper simulation of Earth's curvature. GIUK gap is friggin' huge, Marianas are nothing compared to this, and even South Atlantic, which had been said to be at the edge of feasibility, would be dwarfed by such a map. Form Iceland to Scotland it's about 1000km, a little less than twice the distance from Falklands to the mainland. I don't think DCS engine can handle a map of that size.

According to this interview with Wags, the current engine supports 1500 × 1500 km so it should be able to support the size (at least vertically), but only just. But definitely with you on having spherical maps and a spherical coordinates system.

11 hours ago, Dragon1-1 said:

Given the type of operations that would be happening there, it'd have to be even larger than that, since Russians, not having much in terms of carriers, would be using long range aviation to support their fleets.

In the other lite-simulator's North Atlantic expansion, it just had Iceland. How it was set up was that it had Iceland already taken by Warsaw Pact forces, with a Soviet battlegroup including a Kiev class heavy aviation cruiser and several escorts (in the base game, only the Krivak I frigate and Kashin destroyers), deployed about 100 km to south-east.

On the opposite side of the map, there was a USN carrier strike group and an amphibious force to reclaim the islands.

Tactical aircraft (namely the MiG-23) would be based in Iceland (mostly based at smaller airfields dotted around Iceland), and large aircraft would simply air-spawn (things like the Tu-16, Tu-22 and Tu-22M (?), as well as the Tu-95/142.

You've got several missions available as BLUFOR (the only playable side in the base game):

• Intercept/CAP, mostly defending against large aircraft attacking BLUFOR's battlegroup/amphibious group, with large, long-range anti-ship missiles.
• Anti-Ship Strike, striking the Soviet battlegroup.
• OCA against land-based WARPAC airpower.
• Sweep against both land-based and ship-based airpower.

2 hours ago, Dragon1-1 said:

Well, this will eventually happen, as if, we'll one day have a map of the whole world, which will obviously include the GIUK gap (and hopefully curvature, which would be kind of important here). I have no idea how ED is planning to implement this, and whether my poor 500GB SSD will survive the ensuing patch, but they've stated in no uncertain terms that it's the plan. 

If you read the above interview I linked above, they've been working on the technology for 1.5 years at the time of the interview, but it's still some years away.

Edited January 23, 2022 by Northstar98

[Silver_Dragon]

10 minutes ago, Northstar98 said:

No, if you read the above interview I linked above, they've been working on the technology for 1.5 years at the time of the interview

Not only, ED continue recluit Map Makers, and C++ developers to add to the Whole World engine team. Whole World has on progress but not release date, as others branchs.
 

Edited January 23, 2022 by Silver_Dragon

[MAXsenna]

Well, this will eventually happen, as if, we'll one day have a map of the whole world, which will obviously include the GIUK gap (and hopefully curvature, which would be kind of important here). I have no idea how ED is planning to implement this, and whether my poor 500GB SSD will survive the ensuing patch, but they've stated in no uncertain terms that it's the plan. 

Sure! And I cross my fingers.
With my 500Mbps connection I don't worry at all. Same goes for my 100TB+ SAN.

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[MiG21bisFishbedL]

Geography japes aside, Switzerland would be an instant hell yes from me. For starters, the only country that comes close to it in just sheer beauty is probably New Zealand.

But, flying Hornets there would be outstanding fun. I hear rumor of some kind of hidden mountain AFB where they fly out of? That'd be awesome, but I also understand it's quite classified.