Toni Carrera Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 (edited) Hi All, I have calibrated my pedals using the TM Calibration Tool. I have customized the controller in game so that each wheel brake is on the associated pedal axis. In the Axis assignment, there is no sign of the being engaged So, no Pedal Press Full Pedal Press And yet when on the tarmac and trying to taxi, this is the result of the controls indicators It is the two low marks in orange that I think are causing the issue So the Apache, just sort of stutters forward, kind of like kangerooing on a car with a clutch and a new driver Any ideas? Thank you Toni Edited March 21, 2022 by Toni Carrera Toni Carrera (Ice Rhino) ThrustMaster HOTAS Warthog Throttle & A10C Stick, ThrustMaster F/A-18C Stick, ThrustMaster TFRP Pedals, ThrustMaster Cougars x 2, fitted to CubeSim USB Screens, TrackIR 4 Active LED & Cap Reflector, Stream Deck XL Intel® Core™ i7-5820K 12 Core Processor, 32GB RAM, 1 x 500GB SSD, 2 x 256GB SSD, 1 x 1TB SSD 4 x 4TB Western Digital Mechanical. 2 x ASUS GTX 1080's SLI, ASUS 29" Ultrawide flanked by 2 x 22" IPS Monitors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge55 Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 Looks like something else is also operating the brakes. See if another controller is mapped. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] i7 10700K OC 5.1GHZ / 500GB SSD & 1TB M:2 & 4TB HDD / MSI Gaming MB / GTX 1080 / 32GB RAM / Win 10 / TrackIR 4 Pro / CH Pedals / TM Warthog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toni Carrera Posted March 21, 2022 Author Share Posted March 21, 2022 Hi Sarge, Apart from the keyboard, there is nothing mapped to the brakes at all, and I am certainly not pressing those keys Toni Carrera (Ice Rhino) ThrustMaster HOTAS Warthog Throttle & A10C Stick, ThrustMaster F/A-18C Stick, ThrustMaster TFRP Pedals, ThrustMaster Cougars x 2, fitted to CubeSim USB Screens, TrackIR 4 Active LED & Cap Reflector, Stream Deck XL Intel® Core™ i7-5820K 12 Core Processor, 32GB RAM, 1 x 500GB SSD, 2 x 256GB SSD, 1 x 1TB SSD 4 x 4TB Western Digital Mechanical. 2 x ASUS GTX 1080's SLI, ASUS 29" Ultrawide flanked by 2 x 22" IPS Monitors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldrick33 Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 Those need to be mapped as sliders, when the brakes are "off" you have half the axis as input (so half on). Set both wheel brakes as sliders and check the pedals graphic if they need to be inverted. AMD 5800X3D · MSI 4080 · Asus ROG Strix B550 Gaming · HP Reverb Pro · 1Tb M.2 NVMe, 32Gb Corsair Vengence 3600MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · VIRPIL T-50CM3 Base, Alpha Prime R. VIRPIL VPC Rotor TCS Base. JetSeat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toni Carrera Posted March 21, 2022 Author Share Posted March 21, 2022 Thanks Baldrick I will give that a go Toni Ps. Do you still have the bullet with your name on it so you don't ever get shot by it Toni Carrera (Ice Rhino) ThrustMaster HOTAS Warthog Throttle & A10C Stick, ThrustMaster F/A-18C Stick, ThrustMaster TFRP Pedals, ThrustMaster Cougars x 2, fitted to CubeSim USB Screens, TrackIR 4 Active LED & Cap Reflector, Stream Deck XL Intel® Core™ i7-5820K 12 Core Processor, 32GB RAM, 1 x 500GB SSD, 2 x 256GB SSD, 1 x 1TB SSD 4 x 4TB Western Digital Mechanical. 2 x ASUS GTX 1080's SLI, ASUS 29" Ultrawide flanked by 2 x 22" IPS Monitors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toni Carrera Posted March 21, 2022 Author Share Posted March 21, 2022 I changed it to a slider and confirmed inverted, as I had already inverted them anyway, but here is the how they are, only showing the right pedal here At rest Full depressed Same Result What next do you think. The same is for the Left pedal Toni Toni Carrera (Ice Rhino) ThrustMaster HOTAS Warthog Throttle & A10C Stick, ThrustMaster F/A-18C Stick, ThrustMaster TFRP Pedals, ThrustMaster Cougars x 2, fitted to CubeSim USB Screens, TrackIR 4 Active LED & Cap Reflector, Stream Deck XL Intel® Core™ i7-5820K 12 Core Processor, 32GB RAM, 1 x 500GB SSD, 2 x 256GB SSD, 1 x 1TB SSD 4 x 4TB Western Digital Mechanical. 2 x ASUS GTX 1080's SLI, ASUS 29" Ultrawide flanked by 2 x 22" IPS Monitors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldrick33 Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 One option is to try using DIView to see how Windows is seeing the calibration. It is a useful tool and you can tune the calibration directly. http://www.leobodnar.com/shop/index.php?main_page=page&id=12 scroll down and download diview.zip AMD 5800X3D · MSI 4080 · Asus ROG Strix B550 Gaming · HP Reverb Pro · 1Tb M.2 NVMe, 32Gb Corsair Vengence 3600MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · VIRPIL T-50CM3 Base, Alpha Prime R. VIRPIL VPC Rotor TCS Base. JetSeat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toni Carrera Posted March 21, 2022 Author Share Posted March 21, 2022 (edited) This is with both pedals at rest Edited March 21, 2022 by Toni Carrera Toni Carrera (Ice Rhino) ThrustMaster HOTAS Warthog Throttle & A10C Stick, ThrustMaster F/A-18C Stick, ThrustMaster TFRP Pedals, ThrustMaster Cougars x 2, fitted to CubeSim USB Screens, TrackIR 4 Active LED & Cap Reflector, Stream Deck XL Intel® Core™ i7-5820K 12 Core Processor, 32GB RAM, 1 x 500GB SSD, 2 x 256GB SSD, 1 x 1TB SSD 4 x 4TB Western Digital Mechanical. 2 x ASUS GTX 1080's SLI, ASUS 29" Ultrawide flanked by 2 x 22" IPS Monitors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sobe Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 I have the same problem with CH pedals and just gave up and assigned the brakes to a button on the Throttle. Trackir4 using the latest Trackir 5 software, Win10 Pro [Creator Update] updated from Win7Pro Pro 64Bit, Intel® Core™ i5-2500 3.30 GHz 6M Intel Smart Cache LGA115 , GigaByte GA-Z68XP-UD4 Intel Z68 Chipset DDR3 16GB Ram, GTX MSI Gaming 1060 [6 GB] Video Card, Main Monitor 1 on left 1920x1080 Touchscreen Monitor 2 on right 1920x1080 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldrick33 Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 Do your pedals have a car/flight switch or similar? The X and Y axes need to not be centred. The alternative is to set 50% deadlines or saturation to remove the unused half axis in DCS Or recalibrate in diview so that only half the axis is used which will save you having to do it for every module in DCS AMD 5800X3D · MSI 4080 · Asus ROG Strix B550 Gaming · HP Reverb Pro · 1Tb M.2 NVMe, 32Gb Corsair Vengence 3600MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · VIRPIL T-50CM3 Base, Alpha Prime R. VIRPIL VPC Rotor TCS Base. JetSeat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toni Carrera Posted March 21, 2022 Author Share Posted March 21, 2022 I have just looked through the following page and can see no option of what you asked, although to be honest I am not entirely sure if it would jump out at me https://www.thrustmaster.com/en-ie/products/t-flight-rudder-pedals/ Toni Toni Carrera (Ice Rhino) ThrustMaster HOTAS Warthog Throttle & A10C Stick, ThrustMaster F/A-18C Stick, ThrustMaster TFRP Pedals, ThrustMaster Cougars x 2, fitted to CubeSim USB Screens, TrackIR 4 Active LED & Cap Reflector, Stream Deck XL Intel® Core™ i7-5820K 12 Core Processor, 32GB RAM, 1 x 500GB SSD, 2 x 256GB SSD, 1 x 1TB SSD 4 x 4TB Western Digital Mechanical. 2 x ASUS GTX 1080's SLI, ASUS 29" Ultrawide flanked by 2 x 22" IPS Monitors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldrick33 Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 Looks like the switch is on the usb adapter thingy AMD 5800X3D · MSI 4080 · Asus ROG Strix B550 Gaming · HP Reverb Pro · 1Tb M.2 NVMe, 32Gb Corsair Vengence 3600MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · VIRPIL T-50CM3 Base, Alpha Prime R. VIRPIL VPC Rotor TCS Base. JetSeat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaisedByWolves Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 Parking brake still set? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldrick33 Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 6 minutes ago, RaisedByWolves said: Parking brake still set? I am pretty sure the issue is the pedal axis, they are showing as having a centre position like a joystick. AMD 5800X3D · MSI 4080 · Asus ROG Strix B550 Gaming · HP Reverb Pro · 1Tb M.2 NVMe, 32Gb Corsair Vengence 3600MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · VIRPIL T-50CM3 Base, Alpha Prime R. VIRPIL VPC Rotor TCS Base. JetSeat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toni Carrera Posted March 22, 2022 Author Share Posted March 22, 2022 Firstly, the parking brake is released Baldrick, I have flicked that switch, and in doing so, the light went red, from green, but it the sim, it appears as though there was only one axis, which only worked as a slider, there was no rudder capabilities, no left pedal recognition Car Mode Flight Mode Both of the above options were 'at rest' information e.g. no pedals pressed, just as they are when not in use, so to speak Thank you Baldrick for continuing to try and assist me with this. I truly appreciate the efforts you are making Toni Toni Carrera (Ice Rhino) ThrustMaster HOTAS Warthog Throttle & A10C Stick, ThrustMaster F/A-18C Stick, ThrustMaster TFRP Pedals, ThrustMaster Cougars x 2, fitted to CubeSim USB Screens, TrackIR 4 Active LED & Cap Reflector, Stream Deck XL Intel® Core™ i7-5820K 12 Core Processor, 32GB RAM, 1 x 500GB SSD, 2 x 256GB SSD, 1 x 1TB SSD 4 x 4TB Western Digital Mechanical. 2 x ASUS GTX 1080's SLI, ASUS 29" Ultrawide flanked by 2 x 22" IPS Monitors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldrick33 Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 (edited) Ah well worth trying. If you fancy persevering the next step you could try is to calibrate each toe brake as just half the axis. I do this with an old CH Flightstick I have to use as an analogue brake for the Spitfire etc. In centre position the brake is off and I pull it back to full on. To do this you need to calibrate each axis (X and Y) in DIView. If you right click in the axis and view raw data, then right click again and click calibrate you can set min, centre and max values. I think it should be setting max to half of the top red figure and centre in between. Below is how mine is set. Once done when you press the pedal the black triangle should travel the entire range and the red just half the range. You may need to fiddle with the figures to get it to work (e.g. min half of max) if it is the wrong way round. It sounds more complicated than it is! Edited March 22, 2022 by Baldrick33 AMD 5800X3D · MSI 4080 · Asus ROG Strix B550 Gaming · HP Reverb Pro · 1Tb M.2 NVMe, 32Gb Corsair Vengence 3600MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · VIRPIL T-50CM3 Base, Alpha Prime R. VIRPIL VPC Rotor TCS Base. JetSeat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intruder_360 Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 (edited) I'm using the T.Flight Rudder Pedals, so i have to set the Saturation X to 50 percent, for to fully release the brakes. But i also noticed in the Apache. When i have switched to the CPG, the brakes was fully set in the controls indicator. After changed the settings, it was no problem anymore to rolling to the runway. Edited March 22, 2022 by Intruder_360 1 Monitor: ASUS TUF Gaming VG27AQL1A| Case: Thermaltake Overseer RX-I | PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA 1300 G2 80+ GOLD, 1300W| Mobo: Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Master | CPU: Intel Core i9 9900KS @5 GHz | CPU-Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 Tower Cooler | RAM: 32GB G.Skill F4-4133C17-8GTZR | GPU:NVIDIA GeForce RTX4090 OC 24GB |SSD: Samsung SSD 860 M.2 1TB | Keyboard: Logitech G110 | Mouse: Logitech G502 | Gaming Devices: Hotas WW Orion 2 Stick&Throttle, Thrustmaster MFD, Pimax Crystal, Stream Deck XL [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldrick33 Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 19 minutes ago, Intruder_360 said: I'm using the T.Flight Rudder Pedals, so i have to set the Saturation X to 50 percent, for to fully release the brakes. But i also noticed in the Apache. When i have switched to the CPG, the brakes was fully set in the controls indicator. After changed the settings, it was no problem anymore to rolling to the runway. I just tried setting saturation to 50% with my brake lever and reset calibration back to default in DIView and that also worked. Of course it needs doing for each module but that isn't a big deal. Effectively it is doing the same thing to use half the axis. This way might be a bit easier to do. AMD 5800X3D · MSI 4080 · Asus ROG Strix B550 Gaming · HP Reverb Pro · 1Tb M.2 NVMe, 32Gb Corsair Vengence 3600MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · VIRPIL T-50CM3 Base, Alpha Prime R. VIRPIL VPC Rotor TCS Base. JetSeat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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