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Hi All,

I have calibrated my pedals using the TM Calibration Tool. I have customized the controller in game so that each wheel brake is on the associated pedal axis. In the Axis assignment, there is no sign of the being engaged

So, no Pedal Press

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Full Pedal Press

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And yet when on the tarmac and trying to taxi, this is the result of the controls indicators

 

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It is the two low marks in orange that I think are causing the issue

So the Apache, just sort of stutters forward, kind of like kangerooing on a car with a clutch and a new driver

Any ideas?

Thank you

Toni


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Looks like something else is also operating the brakes.  See if another controller is mapped.

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Hi Sarge, 

Apart from the keyboard, there is nothing mapped to the brakes at all, and I am certainly not pressing those keys

 

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Those need to be mapped as sliders, when the brakes are "off" you have half the axis as input (so half on).

Set both wheel brakes as sliders and check the pedals graphic if they need to be inverted.

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Thanks Baldrick

I will give that a go

Toni

Ps. Do you still have the bullet with your name on it so you don't ever get shot by it 🙂

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I changed it to a slider and confirmed inverted, as I had already inverted them anyway, but here is the how they are, only showing the right pedal here

At rest

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Full depressed

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Same Result

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What next do you think. The same is for the Left pedal

Toni

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One option is to try using DIView to see how Windows is seeing the calibration. It is a useful tool and you can tune the calibration directly.

http://www.leobodnar.com/shop/index.php?main_page=page&id=12

scroll down and download diview.zip

 

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This is with both pedals at rest

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I have the same problem with CH pedals and just gave up and assigned the brakes to a button on the Throttle.

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Do your pedals have a car/flight switch or similar? The X and Y axes need to not be centred.

The alternative is to set 50% deadlines or saturation to remove the unused half axis in DCS

Or recalibrate in diview so that only half the axis is used which will save you having to do it for every module in DCS

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I have just looked through the following page and can see no option of what you asked, although to be honest I am not entirely sure if it would jump out at me

https://www.thrustmaster.com/en-ie/products/t-flight-rudder-pedals/

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Looks like the switch is on the usb adapter thingy

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6 minutes ago, RaisedByWolves said:

Parking brake still set?

I am pretty sure the issue is the pedal axis, they are showing as having a centre position like a joystick.

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Firstly, the parking brake is released

Baldrick, I have flicked that switch, and in doing so, the light went red, from green, but it the sim, it appears as though there was only one axis, which only worked as a slider, there was no rudder capabilities, no left pedal recognition

Car Mode

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Flight Mode

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Both of the above options were 'at rest' information e.g. no pedals pressed, just as they are when not in use, so to speak

Thank you Baldrick for continuing to try and assist me with this. I truly appreciate the efforts you are making

Toni

 

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Ah well worth trying.

If you fancy persevering the next step you could try is to calibrate each toe brake as just half the axis. I do this with an old CH Flightstick I have to use as an analogue brake for the Spitfire etc. In centre position the brake is off and I pull it back to full on.

To do this you need to calibrate each axis (X and Y) in DIView. If you right click in the axis and view raw data, then right click again and click calibrate you can set min, centre and max values. I think it should be setting max to half of the top red figure and centre in between. Below is how mine is set. Once done when you press the pedal the black triangle should travel the entire range and the red just half the range. You may need to fiddle with the figures to get it to work (e.g. min half of max) if it is the wrong way round. It sounds more complicated than it is!diview calibration 0.png

 


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I'm using the T.Flight Rudder Pedals, so i have to set the Saturation X to 50 percent, for to fully release the brakes.

But i also noticed in the Apache. When i have switched to the CPG, the brakes was fully set in the controls indicator. After changed the settings, it was no problem anymore to rolling to the runway.


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19 minutes ago, Intruder_360 said:

I'm using the T.Flight Rudder Pedals, so i have to set the Saturation X to 50 percent, for to fully release the brakes.

But i also noticed in the Apache. When i have switched to the CPG, the brakes was fully set in the controls indicator. After changed the settings, it was no problem anymore to rolling to the runway.

 

I just tried setting saturation to 50% with my brake lever and reset calibration back to default in DIView and that also worked. Of course it needs doing for each module but that isn't a big deal. Effectively it is doing the same thing to use half the axis. This way might be a bit easier to do.

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