Basher54321 Posted February 9, 2016 Posted February 9, 2016 The first Italian made F-35A transatlantic journey: http://www.sldinfo.com/NINJA-DISCUSSES-HIS-F-35-FLIGHT-ACROSS-THE-ATLANTIC-THE-RIGHT-STUFF-ITALIAN-STYLE/
garrya Posted February 12, 2016 Posted February 12, 2016 Here is radar scattering graph of F-35 from Nanjing University of Aeronautics and Astronautics China ( computer simulation ) http://wenku.baidu.com/view/db18051f59eef8c75fbfb37b.html# Actual F-35 figure would depend on the absorption vale of Fibermat a few example of RAM absorption value : http://www.hindawi.com/journals/je/2014/468313/ http://www.freepatentsonline.com/5164242.pdf
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Hummingbird Posted February 14, 2016 Posted February 14, 2016 I wonder how a modification akin to this would effect things:
Sweep Posted February 14, 2016 Posted February 14, 2016 ^That'd be real interesting... Reminds me of FB-22! :( Lord of Salt
ФрогФут Posted February 15, 2016 Posted February 15, 2016 That would destroy aerodynamics and probably increase RCS. 1 "Я ошеломлён, но думаю об этом другими словами", - некий гражданин Ноет котик, ноет кротик, Ноет в небе самолетик, Ноют клумбы и кусты - Ноют все. Поной и ты.
Hummingbird Posted February 16, 2016 Posted February 16, 2016 That would destroy aerodynamics and probably increase RCS. How would it destroy aerodynamics?
ФрогФут Posted February 16, 2016 Posted February 16, 2016 How would it destroy aerodynamics? It covers LERX and the leading edge is now situated very close to the vortex generators on the outer side of intakes, which were designed to work with the rest of the current plane to create lift. How that would work with the new wing? No idea. Also increasing wing surface without increasing wingspan would create more lift induced drag, so it will loose even more speed on manoeuvres. "Я ошеломлён, но думаю об этом другими словами", - некий гражданин Ноет котик, ноет кротик, Ноет в небе самолетик, Ноют клумбы и кусты - Ноют все. Поной и ты.
Hummingbird Posted February 16, 2016 Posted February 16, 2016 It covers LERX and the leading edge is now situated very close to the vortex generators on the outer side of intakes, which were designed to work with the rest of the current plane to create lift. How that would work with the new wing? No idea. Also increasing wing surface without increasing wingspan would create more lift induced drag, so it will loose even more speed on manoeuvres. By decreasing the AR you increase the Cdi, true, but we're adding a lot of wing in the process as well. In addition to this we're increasing the sweep angle, which will be beneficial for high speed flight. As for LERX, obviously these need to be redesigned slightly to accomodate the new wing design, but this really should be a smaller obstacle. Similar consideration were done regarding the FB-22.
ФрогФут Posted February 17, 2016 Posted February 17, 2016 By decreasing the AR you increase the Cdi, true, but we're adding a lot of wing in the process as well. In addition to this we're increasing the sweep angle, which will be beneficial for high speed flight. As for LERX, obviously these need to be redesigned slightly to accomodate the new wing design, but this really should be a smaller obstacle. Similar consideration were done regarding the FB-22. The result will be the same as Gripen. Also you're going to move MAC, which won't do any good for stability. "Я ошеломлён, но думаю об этом другими словами", - некий гражданин Ноет котик, ноет кротик, Ноет в небе самолетик, Ноют клумбы и кусты - Ноют все. Поной и ты.
Hummingbird Posted February 17, 2016 Posted February 17, 2016 The result will be the same as Gripen. Also you're going to move MAC, which won't do any good for stability. Moving the MAC isn't as much a problem with modern flight control systems, and the inherent stability is something that can be adjusted with other minor aerodynamic modifications on top. But I agree that the drawing only shows a single modification that alone won't work, it requires other changes to be made as well, nut none that can't be done. It was simply to give food for thought regarding possible future wing designs just as we've seen new wing designs speculated for most aircraft designs. Remember this? :) :
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ФрогФут Posted February 17, 2016 Posted February 17, 2016 Please stay on topic. Just one more time.:) Moving the MAC isn't as much a problem with modern flight control systems, and the inherent stability is something that can be adjusted with other minor aerodynamic modifications on top. But I agree that the drawing only shows a single modification that alone won't work, it requires other changes to be made as well, nut none that can't be done. It was simply to give food for thought regarding possible future wing designs just as we've seen new wing designs speculated for most aircraft designs. Remember this? :) : FCS works fine in cg range of about 15% MAC. Doing what you want may move cg out of this range. As for F-16 - it's whole new wing, not addition to the current. "Я ошеломлён, но думаю об этом другими словами", - некий гражданин Ноет котик, ноет кротик, Ноет в небе самолетик, Ноют клумбы и кусты - Ноют все. Поной и ты.
Hummingbird Posted February 17, 2016 Posted February 17, 2016 Please stay on topic. Are we not on topic? Thought this thread was about the F-35.
ED Team NineLine Posted February 17, 2016 ED Team Posted February 17, 2016 Are we not on topic? Thought this thread was about the F-35. Sure, but nobody wants to come here and read how you think it should be designed. Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug**
SkateZilla Posted February 17, 2016 Posted February 17, 2016 The F-35 is still in Open Beta....:megalol: Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
Hummingbird Posted February 17, 2016 Posted February 17, 2016 (edited) Sure, but nobody wants to come here and read how you think it should be designed. What? I am not saying anything of the sort... I layed it out as a thought experiment, and I only see one person being irritated by it, and that apparently because the thread isn't filled to the brim with only F-35 news videos. If that's what he's looking for then simply make such a thread. But I guess we can't discuss the F-35 even in an F-35 specific thread then -.- Edited February 17, 2016 by Hummingbird
ED Team NineLine Posted February 17, 2016 ED Team Posted February 17, 2016 What? I am not saying anything of the sort... http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2677247&postcount=2754 Share stories, images and videos about the F-35. If you want to discuss your design suggestions for the F-35, open a new thread. Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug**
Sweep Posted February 18, 2016 Posted February 18, 2016 Lets chill this out with a nice picture: You might see that this is my sig pic, too! 2 Lord of Salt
Hummingbird Posted February 18, 2016 Posted February 18, 2016 Lets chill this out with a nice picture: You might see that this is my sig pic, too! That IS a very nice picture :thumbup:
Phantom88 Posted February 18, 2016 Posted February 18, 2016 USMC Japan Deployment http://defense-update.com/20160218_first-usmc-f-35b-unit-to-deploy-to-japan-in-2017-2.html Patrick
Pilotasso Posted February 18, 2016 Posted February 18, 2016 I'm just curious to see what comes out of the 6th gen fighter design and how they will gimp it in order NOT TO supersede the F-35 by accident. :) .
Tirak Posted February 18, 2016 Posted February 18, 2016 I'm just curious to see what comes out of the 6th gen fighter design and how they will gimp it in order NOT TO supersede the F-35 by accident. :) ... Yeah, sure...
Bullfrog_ Posted February 19, 2016 Posted February 19, 2016 6th gen wont even be here til the 30s anyway
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