uhoh7 Posted December 26, 2008 Posted December 26, 2008 For my first setup i didn't hesitate to use all my CH stuff, pedals throtle and fighterstick. With the FS, i found combined with the trim directional flight was fine, but manuvers and landing a great challange. I softened the curve, but it got harder. Then i looked at my dusty FFB2. What the heck. I kept my pedals and throttle. I swaped axis and left all else default. It's a different bird. I can strafe, land and hover with far more precision. The slightest tug or pull on the stick gets a response, but you get used to it. I use trim far less. The FFB is a bit quirky on the trim, but you soon get used to it----basically the stick goes limp when the trim is pressed, then locks to wherever you have it, so if you are pulling hard, the stick will move extra when the trim is pressed, then lock further than you expect. I wish the ffb2 had more hats and switches like the FS, but it sure makes flying the KA-50 alot of fun. E8600 Asus P5E Radeon 4870x2 Corsair 4gb Velociraptor 300gb Neopower 650 NZXT Tempest Vista64 Samsung 30" 2560x1600
Macka Posted December 26, 2008 Posted December 26, 2008 I second that...dumped my Saitek X52 (stick only)and went back to MSFF2.....Its far more fun and feels much better. There we were....two against a thousand.....so what'd we do....Shotem' both!!!! Intel core I5-9600, GB RTX 2080TI@2050Mhz, Asus ROG Strix Z390, 32GB G.Skill ddr4 3000 Ram. 40" Philips 4K monitor, HP Reverb, Vive Pro, Rift CV1, TMWH and SimXperience Motion Sim, Lime green jocks, Jack Daniels 1770, 2 packs Marlborough, etc etc etc...:megalol:
d0ppler Posted December 26, 2008 Posted December 26, 2008 hmm, will see if I can find my MSFB2 stick and give it a try tonight. A-10C, AV-8B, Ka-50, F-14B, F-16C, F-5E, F/A-18C, L-39, Mi-8, MiG-21, MiG-29, SA34, Spitfire, Su-27, Su-33, UH-1H
miguez Posted December 26, 2008 Posted December 26, 2008 Using MSFFB2 and loving it, although I don't have anything to compare it to :). But nonetheless, the chopper is very controllable, although I still have to get the trimming right.
Teeps Posted December 26, 2008 Posted December 26, 2008 I'm sure it's not the recommended thing to do, but sometime ago I cut away about half the centre-ing spring on my X45. This means I have much less resistance to movement, and a no-resistance zone in the centre. The upshot is that most of the time I don't need to trim, just change where I'm positioning the stick in the no-resistance zone. The only downside is that the stick doesn't return to centre on it's own now. Win10 x64, 16 GB RAM, Ryzen 5 1600X @3.60 GHz, 500 GB SSD, GeForce 1080 Ti
815TooCooL Posted December 26, 2008 Posted December 26, 2008 FFB2 rulz. Pity there's no more. System: Core2Duo E8500, 4G ram, GTX260, SLC SSD, and Vista 32bit. LG W2600HP 26" LCD. Controls : MSFFB2, CH Pro throttle, Saitek rudder, Saitek throttle quadrant, and TrackIR4 BS Setting : medium with visibility HIGH More skill you get, more you Love DCS:Black Shark.
ED Team Groove Posted December 26, 2008 ED Team Posted December 26, 2008 This FFB2s will raise in price on Ebay, im sure :D Our Forum Rules: http://forums.eagle.ru/rules.php#en
RCN_Moose Posted December 26, 2008 Posted December 26, 2008 I'll put another vote in for the FFB2. If mine ever dies I'm not sure what I'll do. You can get them off ebay, but the price is astronomical.
Shrubbo Posted December 26, 2008 Posted December 26, 2008 I'm sure it's not the recommended thing to do, but sometime ago I cut away about half the centre-ing spring on my X45. This means I have much less resistance to movement, and a no-resistance zone in the centre. The upshot is that most of the time I don't need to trim, just change where I'm positioning the stick in the no-resistance zone. The only downside is that the stick doesn't return to centre on it's own now. That is actually one of the reasons I bought CH gear. I have owned thrustmaster gear before (I am sure my right arm is bigger then my left because of that....not to mention the pots of crud!!!!!) and force feedback stuff (MS FFB, great stick it turned out to be and used for years) but I ended up playing with the power off when I wanted acuracy. Then when I was researching controllers for BS I had read that some thought the spring pressure was "too light" in the CH sticks and I thought that sounded awesome. It is in fact awesome and like yourself I hardly ever trim. In fact for the most part the only time I do trim is just after take off. I go into a stable hover, trim for that and then fly away. If need be I can trim on the fly as well now without any problem, it just took some practice in centering the stick in the right time for there to be no effect to the helicopter. I would have liked a FFB option but everything that had FFB I didn't like for one reason or another. i9-9900K,Z390 Aorus Master, 32GB GSkill Trident F4-3600 DDR4, ROG Strix RTX 2080 Ti, Oculus Rift S. Thrustmaster Warthog T&S, TPR Pedals.
d0ppler Posted December 26, 2008 Posted December 26, 2008 Yeah, the trimming works better with a force feedback joystick, just make sure to enable back ForceFeedbackEnabled = true; in the .\config\Producer.cfg. ;) Too bad there arent any high quality force feedback joysticks in production anymore. A-10C, AV-8B, Ka-50, F-14B, F-16C, F-5E, F/A-18C, L-39, Mi-8, MiG-21, MiG-29, SA34, Spitfire, Su-27, Su-33, UH-1H
uhoh7 Posted December 27, 2008 Author Posted December 27, 2008 Yeah, the trimming works better with a force feedback joystick, just make sure to enable back ForceFeedbackEnabled = true; in the .\config\Producer.cfg. ;) Too bad there arent any high quality force feedback joysticks in production anymore. I never could figure out why CH, which has great support, has not built something around the model of an ffb2, without the twist, and with more hats. such a thing, well done, would be worth some real moeny. Can you guys get the buttons on your FFB2s to do more than one thing? I'm on vista, and I just pluged it in---buttons all work and are assignable, but I'd love to get some kind of shift mode going in conjuction with my prothrottle, or somehow. E8600 Asus P5E Radeon 4870x2 Corsair 4gb Velociraptor 300gb Neopower 650 NZXT Tempest Vista64 Samsung 30" 2560x1600
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