Still no RWR launch warnings?

[D4n]

There's still no mention of the RWR fix in changelog, does this mean that a radar tracked target will still not receive a launch warning??
(open beta changelog from july 28: "launch warnings still in progress")

Edited September 2, 2022 by D4n

[D4n]

Yep, R530F EM still not giving launch warning... this is just awful guys

[Vek17]

I mean if we ignore DCSisms then it is likely working correctly as it would either not give a launch warning at all or give a launch warning on lock but not on launch. I expect that they want to keep the unrealistic DCS RWR stuff going though where Fox 1s always give launch warnings though which is a gamism.

Edited September 3, 2022 by Vek17

[BIGNEWY]

22 minutes ago, D4n said:

Yep, R530F EM still not giving launch warning... this is just awful guys

try to remember this is early access, no need for the silly comments. 

[Renko]

@BIGNEWYMaybe the devs can answer if this statement from another thread explains that behaviour for the F1, should worth checking it out
https://forum.dcs.world/topic/306244-no-radar-lock-or-missile-warning/?do=findComment&comment=5021020

[ARM505]

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On 9/3/2022 at 6:20 PM, D4n said:

Yep, R530F EM still not giving launch warning... this is just awful guys

Why would it give a launch warning? Am I missing something on how this missile works? It's a SARH missile isn't it?

 

Edit: never mind, read the other thread, apparently there would be no launch warnings. So, not 'awful', but 'correct as is'?

Edited September 8, 2022 by ARM505

[Get_Lo]

On 9/3/2022 at 11:20 AM, D4n said:

Yep, R530F EM still not giving launch warning... this is just awful guys

R530EM does not use CWI or PDI guidance and guides on 2000hz radar frequency, the same frequency the radar scans on. there should be no launch warning. But there should be a lock warning. S530F is the same way when it arrives except it uses 660hz frequency.  

Edited September 10, 2022 by Get_Lo

[rossmum]

I would prefer to see all DCS aircraft brought to the same standard (no state change = no launch warning, or lock to be considered the same as a launch warning as is apparently US practice for the S-200's FCR) rather than a module which does things correctly be gamified to give warnings when it shouldn't, to be quite blunt.

[Get_Lo]

3 hours ago, rossmum said:

I would prefer to see all DCS aircraft brought to the same standard (no state change = no launch warning, or lock to be considered the same as a launch warning as is apparently US practice for the S-200's FCR) rather than a module which does things correctly be gamified to give warnings when it shouldn't, to be quite blunt.

agree, I think we should step away from the game-ified RWR behavior and start making steps in the direction of realism. F1 has a good place to start because as is it doesnt give launch warnings, it would be a shame if they added it just to fit the game-y side of DCS. even RAZBAM has expressed interest in making the 530D of the 2000 not give launch warnings (or give launch warnings on lock, not on fire) because the missile is a LOBL missile and the hostile's RWR would have no way of knowing the missile is in the air because the "launch" signals the CWI emit are already emitting before the missile is launched. 
S-200 (Sa-5) is another good example you mentioned and im sure there are others I dont even think of.

[rossmum]

The MiG-21bis, if we assume that the US either never got a sniff of the war reserve mode, or they did and programmed their RWRs to process it as a launch. Other than that (manually initiated by the training/combat regime switch) frequency hop, which has to be performed before launch, as far as I know there is no state change for the RP-22 either.

Edited September 17, 2022 by rossmum