resolved Trimming pitch/roll doesn't work

[dg6546]

Pitch and roll channel will keep in the center (white indicating current position, green for SAS), ignoring trimming position even if i let go of my stick (the red x).

In previous versions, the white thing should be centered at the red x.

 

Apart from SAS saturation, this bird is currently unflyable, please fix soon...

apache_not_trimming2.trk

Edited September 4, 2022 by dg6546

[kgillers3]

What special options do you have set for trim? 

[dg6546]

13 minutes ago, kgillers3 said:

What special options do you have set for trim? 

I tried all three and not a single mode is working

[Floyd1212]

Post a short track file please, so others can hop in and take a look.

My guess is that you have something going on with the setup of the aircraft, or your control binds.  Lots of people complaining that the FM doesn't suit them, but no one is complaining that the FTR command stopped working.

[dg6546]

15 hours ago, Floyd1212 said:

Post a short track file please, so others can hop in and take a look.

My guess is that you have something going on with the setup of the aircraft, or your control binds.  Lots of people complaining that the FM doesn't suit them, but no one is complaining that the FTR command stopped working.

Attached above.

[admiki]

1 hour ago, dg6546 said:

Attached above.

It works for me, just tried it. Central joystick trim in special options. It also works with instant trim, but game would see double input.

Go to controls, press your trim button and screenshot what shows up.

If I select joystick without springs and FFB I get exactly same results as you

Edited September 4, 2022 by admiki

[dg6546]

2 hours ago, admiki said:

It works for me, just tried it. Central joystick trim in special options. It also works with instant trim, but game would see double input.

Go to controls, press your trim button and screenshot what shows up.

If I select joystick without springs and FFB I get exactly same results as you

 

I've tried:

1. trimmer mode in special options (all 3)

2. Hot/cold start

3. reinstall module

 

My heli just won't "start" input from the trimmed position... Can anyone show me one that is working properly?

Edited September 4, 2022 by dg6546

[kgillers3]

What special options mode are you currently in? And does the force trim reset work? Verify on the ac util page that trim is selected on.  I don’t know if any of my suggestions will help but hopefully. 

[admiki]

Try to repair DCS, it looks like it does not recognize trim modes.

[Floyd1212]

You should be able to start into a cold/dark Apache on the Instant Action missions, simply flip the battery on (and nothing else), and see the trim functions working properly on the Control Indicator.  If this isn't working for you, not sure what the resolution is, but it sounds like a fundamental problem with your setup.

[BIGNEWY]

unable to reproduce here, seems ok to me

[dg6546]

3 hours ago, BIGNEWY said:

unable to reproduce here, seems ok to me

I guess I have to... Reinstall the whole game..?

On 9/4/2022 at 10:23 PM, admiki said:

Try to repair DCS, it looks like it does not recognize trim modes.

tried and no

[BIGNEWY]

5 minutes ago, dg6546 said:

I guess I have to... Reinstall the whole game..?

A simple slow repair or verify if steam should be enough to fix any issues if there are any. 

can you also ensure you are not using any game modes also, game avionics or game flight in the DCS settings

[dg6546]

1 minute ago, BIGNEWY said:

A simple slow repair or verify if steam should be enough to fix any issues if there are any. 

I have tried repair already...

[Floyd1212]

Maybe the problem is just with the way the Controls Indicator is showing the symbology, and the actual Trim functions are working properly in the aircraft?

When you are in forward flight with the nose pitched down, and the press and release FTR, then release your joystick to center, does the aircraft stay nose-down, or does it pitch up to be level again?

[dg6546]

52 minutes ago, Floyd1212 said:

Maybe the problem is just with the way the Controls Indicator is showing the symbology, and the actual Trim functions are working properly in the aircraft?

When you are in forward flight with the nose pitched down, and the press and release FTR, then release your joystick to center, does the aircraft stay nose-down, or does it pitch up to be level again?

As I show in the clip, trim doesnt work. it would pitch up. If i want to go forward, i have to hold my stick front for the whole flight

Edited September 5, 2022 by dg6546

[admiki]

10 minutes ago, Floyd1212 said:

Maybe the problem is just with the way the Controls Indicator is showing the symbology, and the actual Trim functions are working properly in the aircraft?

When you are in forward flight with the nose pitched down, and the press and release FTR, then release your joystick to center, does the aircraft stay nose-down, or does it pitch up to be level again?

For me, white diamond stays where trimmed, unless I am in "no springs and FFB" mode in which it goes back to center. In that mode, helicopter tries to follow the diamond.

[dg6546]

On 9/6/2022 at 1:12 AM, admiki said:

For me, white diamond stays where trimmed, unless I am in "no springs and FFB" mode in which it goes back to center. In that mode, helicopter tries to follow the diamond.

Nope. Even this mode doesn't work

[dg6546]

fixed by install free new game. Cleaning and rapiar doesnt work.

[egon83]

On 9/11/2022 at 1:12 PM, dg6546 said:

fixed by install free new game. Cleaning and rapiar doesnt work.

 

I have the same problem... ED needs to step up their game

[BIGNEWY]

4 minutes ago, egon83 said:

I have the same problem... ED needs to step up their game

As mentioned above we can not reproduce. 

I would suggest attaching a track replay and checking you are not using game flight in DCS settings

[egon83]

1 minute ago, BIGNEWY said:

As mentioned above we can not reproduce. 

I would suggest attaching a track replay and checking you are not using game flight in DCS settings

Tracks have already been posted by other people... 

Can not reproduce is not a valid fix

[BIGNEWY]

Just now, egon83 said:

Tracks have already been posted by other people... 

Can not reproduce is not a valid fix

for a fix to be made we need to reproduce the issue. 

as mentioned we are unable. 

Please include a track replay showing it happen on your machine I will be happy to check it again 

[egon83]

2 minutes ago, BIGNEWY said:

for a fix to be made we need to reproduce the issue. 

as mentioned we are unable. 

Please include a track replay showing it happen on your machine I will be happy to check it again 

how do i make a track replay ?

[BIGNEWY]

Just now, egon83 said:

how do i make a track replay ?

when you exit the mission during the debrief screen you can save the track

if possible please use Caucasus terrain and no unofficial mods. 

thank you