Phantom711 Posted September 23, 2022 Posted September 23, 2022 Hi I just got a good deal on the TM MFD bezels and already own a F-16 ICP replica. Now I would like to build a realtively simple deskpit ("simple" compared to a full pit-build), so that I can use them intuitively in VR. Anybody knows how much the MFDs are tilted forward? My guess would be something like 10 degrees?! How far does the ICP "stick out"? Again, my guess would be like 30cm/1 foot!? Sorry, I am just too lazy at the moment to register at viperpit.org let alone buy plans just for those 2 questions. vCVW-17 is looking for Hornet and Tomcat pilots and RIOs. Join the vCVW-17 Discord.
amido Posted September 23, 2022 Posted September 23, 2022 the measurements you said are more or less exact, as soon as I find where I put the usb key with the plans of 16 I put them here 1
Phantom711 Posted September 23, 2022 Author Posted September 23, 2022 @amido Thanks for your reply. If nobody comes up with better numbers, then I will probably just go with my estimated numbers. vCVW-17 is looking for Hornet and Tomcat pilots and RIOs. Join the vCVW-17 Discord.
agrasyuk Posted September 24, 2022 Posted September 24, 2022 Since you not building a replica put I'd say in your case it's trial and error to find what is most comfortable Good luck. Anton. My pit build thread . Simple and cheap UFC project
Hempstead Posted September 24, 2022 Posted September 24, 2022 https://www.hempstick.org/The_Official_Hempstick_Site/F16_Tub.html Then, take the HUD model, https://www.hempstick.org/The_Official_Hempstick_Site/F16_HUD.html, and stick it in. Measure. Done.
Phantom711 Posted September 24, 2022 Author Posted September 24, 2022 (edited) @Hempstead Hey, thanks for your answer as well. Maybe I am too stupid, but I don`t see, where your HUD-Model would help me here. Just to clarify: In simple terms: I want to know, how far the ICP is closer to my face than the MFDs. How long is that "tube" where the ICP is mounted to? EDIT: Nevermind... I think I see what you mean now. I downloaded your HUD-file, but had to convert it to STL so that I could import it to a CAD program. Now, when I measure the distance approximately from the carrying handle to the ICP, it comes up with like 10cm...which seems a bit too little actually.... EDIT 2: Ok....the measurements are off, probably due to the conversion of the file. But since I know, that the ICP is ~140mm wide, I could do some math and it seems that the ICP "sticks out" about 250mm from the MFDs. So my estimate was relatively close. Edited September 24, 2022 by Phantom711 vCVW-17 is looking for Hornet and Tomcat pilots and RIOs. Join the vCVW-17 Discord.
Hempstead Posted September 25, 2022 Posted September 25, 2022 Best not to do conversion to STL. Either use Solidworks files directly, or use other CAD file formats, like Fusion 360, etc. BTW, on the bottom of the HUD, there is a little horizontal “ledge” bump. That bump needs to sit completely out of surface of front panel, like in the attached picture.
Phantom711 Posted September 25, 2022 Author Posted September 25, 2022 @Hempstead Thanks for that hint. Will take a look at that. Any chance you know how many degrees the MFDs are tilted forward? vCVW-17 is looking for Hornet and Tomcat pilots and RIOs. Join the vCVW-17 Discord.
Hempstead Posted September 25, 2022 Posted September 25, 2022 You can measure the front panel for it. But the answer is 10 degree.
Phantom711 Posted September 25, 2022 Author Posted September 25, 2022 @Hempstead I am not overly familiar with the more complex CAD-programs and how to do that (so far I used Tinkercad to build some simple 3D-models )…so I am happy with your answer. vCVW-17 is looking for Hornet and Tomcat pilots and RIOs. Join the vCVW-17 Discord.
Phantom711 Posted September 26, 2022 Author Posted September 26, 2022 Just to let you guys know… I made a mock-up out of cardboard to check the dimensions. My intent is to make the actual version out of plexiglas and some other parts. vCVW-17 is looking for Hornet and Tomcat pilots and RIOs. Join the vCVW-17 Discord.
Hempstead Posted September 27, 2022 Posted September 27, 2022 Why don't you just 3D print it? I know somebody did print the whole HUD unit in parts, and then glue them all together (crazy guy!). As a matter of fact, from your mockup... all you need to print is the part that sticks out. Take my 3D model, slice and dice just the parts you need and slices even more to fit in your 3D printer. nullYou will need a 3D printer these days for pit building anyway. Too much of a good thing to miss, even just for printing knobs. 1
Phantom711 Posted September 28, 2022 Author Posted September 28, 2022 @Hempstead Even though I see your point, I simply don´t need it all to look good. It just needs to "feel" like it is at the right spot, when I am actually in VR. I might even shorten the "ICP-tube", simply because my seat position is more upright than the one of my virtual pilot. I can definitely see the benefits of a 3D-printer though. @No1sonuk Look...bottom of my picture...a Realsimulator FSSB R3L. But I also enjoy flying the Hornet a lot and that´s what I have normal TM stick for. 1 vCVW-17 is looking for Hornet and Tomcat pilots and RIOs. Join the vCVW-17 Discord.
Phantom711 Posted October 9, 2022 Author Posted October 9, 2022 (edited) This takes the term „glass cockpit“ to a whole new level… And this is it almost finished. Might be laughable to some, considering that this is the home cockpit subforum, but it is what I wanted to improve my VR experience… Edited October 9, 2022 by Phantom711 2 1 vCVW-17 is looking for Hornet and Tomcat pilots and RIOs. Join the vCVW-17 Discord.
Mr. Big.Biggs Posted October 9, 2022 Posted October 9, 2022 Hey, if it works for you, don’t worry about it! Not everyone needs to ebay a used helmet and turn a pair of pajamas into a “flight suit” to have fun…. Enjoy!!! 1 I9 (5Ghz turbo)2080ti 64Gb 3200 ram. 3 drives. A sata 2tb storage and 2 M.2 drives. 1 is 1tb, 1 is 500gb. Valve Index, Virpil t50 cm2 stick, t50 base and v3 throttle w mini stick. MFG crosswind pedals.
Hempstead Posted October 11, 2022 Posted October 11, 2022 On 10/9/2022 at 5:11 AM, Mr. Big.Biggs said: Hey, if it works for you, don’t worry about it! Not everyone needs to ebay a used helmet and turn a pair of pajamas into a “flight suit” to have fun…. Enjoy!!! Yep…. Or wear an “authentic” surplus G-suit with exactly 1g in something that flies at exactly 0 agl. 1
Viper1970 Posted October 17, 2022 Posted October 17, 2022 On 10/11/2022 at 2:27 AM, Hempstead said: Yep…. Or wear an “authentic” surplus G-suit with exactly 1g in something that flies at exactly 0 agl. CockpitPC1: R9 5950X|64GB DDR4|512GB M2SSD|2TB M2SSD|RTX3090|ReverbG2|Win11Pro - PC2: PhnIIX6 1100T|32GB DDR2|2x2TB HDD|2x GTX660 SLI|Win7Pro64 ComUnitPC1: R9 3900XT|32GB DDR4|2x2TB HDD|RTX2070|Win11Pro - PC2: PhnIIX6 1100T|16GB DDR2|2x2TB HDD|GTX660|Win7Pro64 ComUnitPC3: AthlnIIX2 250|2GB DDR2|2TB HDD|5950Ultra|2xVoodooII SLI|WinXPPro32&WinME - PC4: K6-2+|768MB SDR|640GB HDD|Geforce256DDR|VoodooI|Win98SE
Magoo5150 Posted January 9, 2023 Posted January 9, 2023 (edited) On 10/9/2022 at 8:00 AM, Phantom711 said: This takes the term „glass cockpit“ to a whole new level… And this is it almost finished. Might be laughable to some, considering that this is the home cockpit subforum, but it is what I wanted to improve my VR experience… This is more or less what I'm looking to do also, except I'm not using VR. Would you happen to have any measurements and pics on how you built the ICP enclosure to attach to the main panel? Looks great! Edit: I see you link CAD files in the thread now... just need to figure out how to view them Edited January 9, 2023 by Magoo5150
A.F. Posted January 11, 2023 Posted January 11, 2023 (edited) Am 9.10.2022 um 14:00 schrieb Phantom711: This takes the term „glass cockpit“ to a whole new level… And this is it almost finished. Might be laughable to some, considering that this is the home cockpit subforum, but it is what I wanted to improve my VR experience… Do you use Leap Motion ? Edited January 11, 2023 by A.F.
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