Can't use both monitors

[Guest Yula]

Hi all,

 

I made effort to fix my problem, but now need your help.

I have a primary Belinea 21" CRT 1600x1200 and

the secondary is Samsung 22" TFT 1680x1050

I'm use XP

I could find the right way to use both monitors in same time with DCS

As many guys wrote, just the primary monitor is working, but it is stretch the screen. I tried rewrite the lua files, but I'm confused. (I haven't got notepad++)

Could anybody help me? Thanks

[Krippz]

For XP users, this is my current lua config:

 

Description = 'Camera on the left monitor, Shkval and ABRIS on the right'

Viewports =

{

Center =

{

x = 0;

y = 0;

width = screen.width / 2;

height = screen.height - 30;

viewDx = 0;

viewDy = 0;

aspect = 16 / 9; -- widescreen main screen, for a non-widescreen main monitor use 4 / 3

}

}

Shkval =

{

x = screen.width * 0.75;

y = 0;

width = screen.width / 4;

height = screen.height - 30;

}

ABRIS =

{

x = screen.width / 2;

y = 0;

width = screen.width / 4;

height = screen.height - 30 ;

}

 

I'm getting great results. Two things to remember though. Firstly horizontal span mode should be utilized. Secondly be sure to use notepad ++ to creat a new lua file with the above settings.

[Kurtz]

Has anyone found a fix for the stretched multiplay GUI with multi monitors?

[xtaffy]

After a lot of work I've got it running on 2 monitors, camera left, ABRIS and Shkval on the right, I get a lot of rubbish (flags)/corrupt display items on the right monitor, left side on the edge of the Shkval, any idea how to stop this.

[Fakum]

Do I understand the statement here correctly?

“It is possible to do multimonitor in both XP and Vista, and with different resolution monitors, but this requires non-fullscreen and there is a performance penalty - it also breaks the multiplayer GUI.”

http://vaaf.net/wiki2/index.php5?title=Black_Shark_MultiMonitors

 

If I understand this, it means I cannot play multi player in Vista using 2 monitors? Please tell me I am mis interpreting,, thanks

[ruprecht]

If you read that entire wiki page, you'll see that there is indeed a workaround for the problems with the multiplayer GUI.

 

http://vaaf.net/wiki2/index.php5?title=Black_Shark_MultiMonitors#Phantom_Monitor_Fix

 

You can also set all your monitors to the same vertical resolution, which might avoid most of the multiplayer GUI issues, but doesn't itself solve the phantom monitor issue.

[Fakum]

Well,,, you are correct sir,,, I basically decided not to get any furthur into it if I was not going to be capable of using it in Multi. Perhaps the statement should be modified and a line added such as (However, read the fix to this below), maybe that would keep folks from running off scared as I did ,,, LOL ,,, Thanks

[ruprecht]

Perhaps the statement should be modified and a line added such as (However, read the fix to this below), maybe that would keep folks from running off scared as I did ,,, LOL ,,, Thanks

 

Noted and fixed.

 

Cheers

[Fakum]

Awsum,,,,, im sure it will be appreciated,,,,Thanks!

[Fakum]

Uh ,,Yeah ,,,Houston,,, we have a problem!

I spent a few hours on this (much like most folks here) and I goofed something up! Sure aint showing up well! I went through the Wiki instructions under the Vista section, I know I have some math off somewhere, just cant figure out what exactly. Would some one mind taking a look at my goof and edit or advise please.

I have my Main, and Center (Camera) monitor (which is a 30” wide screen) set up at a resolution of 2560 x 1600.

To the LEFT of the main, I have a smaller monitor in which I am running at 1152 x 864, on which I would like the ABRIS on the Left, and Shkval on right of this monitor.

I used the Wiki as a guide, but it is exampled as the Abris and the Shkval on the right monitor, so I tried to reverse engineer it I suppose, and also having a pixel count starting at 0 on the left monitor, adding up from left to right. Here are the 2 edited files:

(MyCamera+ABRIS+Shkval.lua File)

Description = 'ABRIS and Shkval on the left and camera on the center'

Viewports =

{

Center =

{

x = 1152;

y = 0;

width = 2560;

height = 1600;

viewDx = 0;

viewDy = 0;

aspect = 1.6;

}

}

Shkval =

{

x = 576;

y = 0;

width = 576;

height = 864/2;

}

ABRIS =

{

x = 0;

y = 0;

width = 576;

height = 864;

}

 

(options.lua File)

options =

{

["views"] =

{

["cockpit"] =

{

["mirrors"] = false,

["reflections"] = false,

["avionics"] = 1,

["russianHud"] = false,

}, -- end of ["cockpit"]

}, -- end of ["views"]

["difficulty"] =

{

["padlock"] = false,

["easyRadar"] = false,

["enemies"] = true,

["setGlobal"] = false,

["immortal"] = false,

["geffect"] = "realistic",

["easyFlight"] = false,

["permitCrash"] = false,

["radio"] = false,

["tips"] = true,

["fuel"] = false,

["aftSwitching"] = false,

["cockpitLanguage"] = "english",

["units"] = "imperial",

["externalViews"] = true,

["hud"] = false,

["myPlane"] = true,

["iconsTheme"] = "nato",

["map"] = true,

["weapons"] = false,

["allies"] = true,

["labels"] = true,

}, -- end of ["difficulty"]

["audio"] =

{

["wind"] = 100,

["radio"] = 100,

["musicEn"] = false,

["engines"] = 100,

["soundEn"] = true,

["effects"] = 100,

["music"] = 50,

["radioSpeech"] = true,

["warnings"] = 100,

["volume"] = 100,

["inCockpit"] = 100,

["mech"] = 100,

["subtitles"] = true,

["gui"] = 50,

}, -- end of ["audio"]

["graphics"] =

{

["multiMonitorSetup"] = "pit_camera+abris+shkval",

["color"] = "32",

["heatBlr"] = 0,

["scenes"] = "medium",

["water"] = 0,

["fullScreen"] = false,

["visibRange"] = "High",

["aspect"] = 3.04,

["textures"] = 1,

["shadows"] = 2,

["display_mode"] =

{

["avi"] =

{

["bpp"] = 32,

["resolution"] = "640x480",

["full_screen"] = false,

["aspect"] = 1.333333333,

["height"] = 480,

["width"] = 640,

}, -- end of ["avi"]

}, -- end of ["display_mode"]

["effects"] = 3,

["lights"] = 2,

["haze"] = 1,

["terrPrld"] = "20",

["height"] = 1600,

["resolution"] = "2560x1600",

["civTraffic"] = 1,

["width"] = 4864,

}, -- end of ["graphics"]

} -- end of options

[ruprecht]

 

(MyCamera+ABRIS+Shkval.lua File)

 

...

 

["multiMonitorSetup"] = "pit_camera+abris+shkval",

 

 

What is the lua file actually called? I see you've copied the multiMonitorSetup line directly from the wiki, but that filename needs to exactly match the lua file (as noted in the wiki). Is your lua file actually called "pit_camera+abris+shkval.lua"? Cause if not, it's not going to work.

 

Will look more for you that turns out to not be the problem.

Also have you worked it out using the excel file on the wiki? That's the best way to understand it.

 

*edit* I worked your numbers using the excel file and it looks to me (with a very quick look) that your numbers are ok.

 

 

*edit again*

 

Note that the words "phantom" and "secondary" should be swapped over, I missed that when I copied it from the other sheet. Doesn't affect the numbers though.

Edited July 12, 2009 by ruprecht

[Fakum]

Thanks for the prompt response, When I started this, I copied the Wiki text, and figured Id edit the numbers to my setup. I see where I messed up now (thanks to you)

 

["multiMonitorSetup"] = "pit_camera+abris+shkval", -- the name of the file above, lower case

I mis interpreted this statement in red, and I was honestly confused. I was not sure if this was refering to the "File above" as the actual name of the monitor .lua file I created. I got hung up on the numbers thinking I messed up there. Thankfully my numbers were correct because I was getting a headache trying to figure out what was wrong with the numbers.

Let me edit that file name and see what happens next. I will rert back later today. Many thanks! :doh:

[ruprecht]

Edited the wiki, hopefully this now makes more immediate sense.

 

Hope you got it working!

[Fakum]

Nah, still not working right,,, both screens are wacked? Heres what I have so far, I will try and take a digital photo of what im actually seeing hopefully tomorrow and post it. Im wondering if its not actually the Fantom monitor .exe that is not working right? Its comes up ok in the bottom task bar, and its not paused?:

(File Name = MyCamera+ABRIS+Shkval.lua)

Description = 'ABRIS and Shkval on the left and camera on the center'

Viewports =

{

Center =

{

x = 1152;

y = 0;

width = 2560;

height = 1600;

viewDx = 0;

viewDy = 0;

aspect = 1.6;

}

}

ABRIS =

{

x = 0;

y = 0;

width = 576;

height = 864;

}

SHKVAL =

{

x = 576;

y = 0;

width = 576;

height = 432;

}

 

(File Name = options.lua)

options =

{

["views"] =

{

["cockpit"] =

{

["mirrors"] = false,

["reflections"] = false,

["avionics"] = 1,

["russianHud"] = false,

}, -- end of ["cockpit"]

}, -- end of ["views"]

["difficulty"] =

{

["padlock"] = false,

["easyRadar"] = false,

["enemies"] = true,

["setGlobal"] = false,

["immortal"] = false,

["geffect"] = "realistic",

["easyFlight"] = false,

["permitCrash"] = false,

["radio"] = false,

["tips"] = true,

["fuel"] = false,

["aftSwitching"] = false,

["cockpitLanguage"] = "english",

["units"] = "imperial",

["externalViews"] = true,

["hud"] = false,

["myPlane"] = true,

["iconsTheme"] = "nato",

["map"] = true,

["weapons"] = false,

["allies"] = true,

["labels"] = true,

}, -- end of ["difficulty"]

["audio"] =

{

["wind"] = 100,

["radio"] = 100,

["musicEn"] = false,

["engines"] = 100,

["soundEn"] = true,

["effects"] = 100,

["music"] = 50,

["radioSpeech"] = true,

["warnings"] = 100,

["volume"] = 100,

["inCockpit"] = 100,

["mech"] = 100,

["subtitles"] = true,

["gui"] = 50,

}, -- end of ["audio"]

["graphics"] =

{

["multiMonitorSetup"] = "MyCamera+ABRIS+Shkval",

["color"] = "32",

["heatBlr"] = 0,

["scenes"] = "medium",

["water"] = 0,

["fullScreen"] = false,

["visibRange"] = "High",

["aspect"] = 3.04,

["textures"] = 1,

["shadows"] = 2,

["display_mode"] =

{

["avi"] =

{

["bpp"] = 32,

["resolution"] = "640x480",

["full_screen"] = false,

["aspect"] = 1.333333333,

["height"] = 480,

["width"] = 640,

}, -- end of ["avi"]

}, -- end of ["display_mode"]

["effects"] = 3,

["lights"] = 2,

["haze"] = 1,

["terrPrld"] = "20",

["height"] = 1600,

["resolution"] = "2560x1600",

["civTraffic"] = 1,

["width"] = 4864,

}, -- end of ["graphics"]

} -- end of options

[Fakum]

Still tinkering around with this with no resolve. I tried with Phantom Monitor on and off, and there is a difference, so I assume that is working correctly.

 

On my desktop, I have 2 lua files:

MyCamera+ABRIS+Shkval.lua

options.lua

 

I edit them from the desktop locations using notepad ++, and then when finished, I copy them over to the following directories in Vista:

C:\Program Files (x86)\Eagle Dynamics\Ka-50\Config\MonitorSetup\MyCamera+ABRIS+Shkval.lua

 

C:\Program Files (x86)\Eagle Dynamics\Ka-50\BlackShark\data\scripts\options.lua

I just want to make sure this is fundamentally correct so far. Im familiar with problems associated with administrative permission issues, run as administrator, Windows compatible virtual folders,, maybe its something to do with that? I extracted the Phantom monitor files and I execute it from this directory, maybe that’s a problem also?

 

C:\Program Files (x86)\Phantom Monitor Fix\PhantomMonitorFix\phantomMonitorFix.exe

 

 

[Fakum]

Bump, just on the fundementals please

[ruprecht]

Without knowing exactly what you're seeing, it's hard to know what you mean by "both screens are wacked" :) It sounds like what you are doing is fundamentally correct, but if you can snap a photo of what you're seeing on startup, that might help.

 

2 things:

- When I wrote the wiki, I specifically said that the name of the multimonitorsetup file should be entered in options.lua in lower case. I'm not sure exactly why (it was a long time ago) but you could try that.

- dispense with the phantomMonitorFix exe until you get it working without it. The fewer variables in the equation, the better.

[Fakum]

I will be away for a few days, so I will follow your advice and take a photo as well if need be. Should hear back from me mid next week,, thanks again

[old_red_eyes]

Hi guys,

 

I am also trying 2560x1600 plus 1280x1024. I have played with some of the examples and I had those working, not displayed right of course because my monitor sizes are different, but the relative sizes/positions were as expected.

 

When I go to a 2560x1600 for camera view, the secondary screen displays an extension of the cockpit view instead of the Shkval. I wonder if the 2560x1600 has bust some limits somewhere? Also possible is that my video adapter is doing some autoscaling and messing up.

 

2560x1600 works ok on a single camera view, which is at least an improvement on what I had.

 

I'll try to get some sample shots, though I am not sure how/where to upload them.

 

Edit: Typical! Trying to recreate the problem has made it go away. I now have camera+shkval+abris on two monitors. Any typos throw it off, so double check everything. I did change the res on my second display to 1024x768, maybe that helped.

 

Only snag is the low res... but at least the config is very flexible, if not very user friendly.

Edited July 17, 2009 by old_red_eyes

[Loslobas]

To join the bandwagon so speak I also need some help please.

I haven't a clue about all the numbers and code etc.. baffles my create mind.

 

Anyhow, I have 2 monitors both 22" set at 1680 x 1050 - monitor '2' as it says in the Windows Vista is on the left and the main monitor. On the right is '1' set as 'extend to this monitor'. I am using Windows Vista 32.

 

Basically my cockpit is on '2' my main and I would like a split on '1' with both the Shkval and Abris.

 

Other than that I'd appreciate someone who could work out the maths and let me have an easy copy & paste exercise, cheers. :-)

[ruprecht]

Other than that I'd appreciate someone who could work out the maths and let me have an easy copy & paste exercise, cheers. :-)

 

Sure, would you like a nice backrub as well?

[Fakum]

Hahahha,, at least I put in about 6 hours, and a migraine,,,,, lol

[Loslobas]

oh dear...

 

Hahahha,, at least I put in about 6 hours, and a migraine,,,,, lol

 

Well no I did put some time in last night after reading the wiki page but to no avail, still couldn't get it too work after doing the calculations and lua editing.

 

My misunderstanding it appears, I thought this was a helpful forum site, especially to new comers, oh well. :huh:

[PlainSight]

Not a problem:

Viewports =

{

Center =

{

x = 1680;

y = 0;

width = 1680;

height = 1050;

viewDx = 0;

viewDy = 0;

aspect = 1.6;

}

}

 

ABRIS =

{

x = 0;

y = 0;

width = 807;

height = 1050;

}

 

Shkval =

{

x = 807;

y = 0;

width = 873;

height = 646;

}

 

Don't forget to set the 3360 width in options.lua and use a MultiMonitorFix

[ruprecht]

My misunderstanding it appears, I thought this was a helpful forum site, especially to new comers, oh well. :huh:

 

A little thought experiment: I register on the most helpful and friendly home improvement forum in the world, and using my very first post, state "Hi all, I can't be arsed painting my daughter's bedroom, can somebody come round and do it for me so I can watch the football? :D Thanks!"

 

If I got a little light sarcasm in response, I'd consider myself lucky.

 

Please understand that when you indicate no desire to put in the effort to understand (as you did in your OP), folks like me who spend a lot of time helping people in a friendly way know that if we take the time to help, a) you will probably lose interest before you get it working and/or b) we'll probably never even see a response from you. It's happened before, and our time is better spent helping those that indicate that they're prepared to invest the time in getting it working.

 

So if you felt unwelcome, I apologise for my light sarcasm. If you really want to get this working and are prepared to put in the work, please post the steps you have taken, the parameters of what you are trying to do, the configs that you're currently working with and the errors you are seeing. This is what we need to be able to help you.

 

Peace