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I'm trying to install both DCS (stable) and Open-Beta. Again. On a freshly installed Windows 10. Yet again.

I had problems over a month ago with Windows so I wiped it and tried a fresh install. Every time I run the Exe. files to install either DCS or Open-Beta I get this nightmare pop-up. I  have Windows defender set up to accept the Eagle Dynamics folder and I've replaced the original DCSUpdater file from BigNewies post. DCS doesn't want to install whatever I do.

Somehow, I did manage to get them both installed a week or so back. I'd lost my backups for my HOTAS inputs so worked my way through redoing the whole lot. I saved the Saved Games folder as well as the Config on an external SSD so hope not to have to go through all that again but I can't get DCS to install to find out.

Windows wasn't stable while i briefly had Open-Beta installed meaning I had to wipe the drive and re-install Windows. I've been doing that for the past couple of days. Install Windows. Update Windows and drivers. Attempt to install DCS or Open Beta. Watch until the pop up stops everything. Try a few times. Wipe the drive. Re-install Windows...

In the past month, in an attempt to sort this out, I've taken the computer into the shop and had them look at it, it's fine. I've had our ISP engineers out who've replaced my router and re-installed the cabling outside as kiddie vandals had burnt into it. I bought a new Ethernet cable and I've tried installing both with Ethernet connection and with Wi-Fi. I've re-installed Windows more times than I can remember, I tried installing a VPN as that seemed to work at one point but nothing's doing it for me now. Oh, I checked that Windows auto-tuning level was set to normal too and it is.

Other software is all installing as it usually does without any problems. I've probably spent more money on Modules and Maps for DCS than I have for most of the other software put together so really, I need it in there. Curl errors and time-outs I'm not so sure about.

Any ideas more than welcome.

Cheers.

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Open Beta just installed.

I HAD to install and use a VPN. DCSWorld nor Open Beta will install without using a VPN. All my other software will. Why I don't know?

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Russian sites? I’ve no idea? As far as I know, I haven’t looked at any Russian sites, perish the thought.


I’m using a large network provider in the UK on a basic Windows 10 platform. I don’t use any other tools or software. Everything else installs without a problem. Every time I’ve tried to install either version of DCS I’ve had the pop up turn me back. Curl errors, whatever they are. Since I don’t understand how the all magic works behind getting bits installed I’ve gone full monty every time it’s gone wrong and wiped the drive and re-installed windows. I gave up installing anything but the windows updates and tried DCS. Time after time. The only way I got around it was installing a free trial VPN. I’ve never looked into VPNs before, I’ve never needed to. I’m just hoping I can install DCS stable later using it then uninstall the VPN without the whole mess costing me any more time and money than it has. It doesn’t make sense to me.

Now I’ve got to try and find out how to tell the freshly installed Open-Beta where my (backup) saved games folder is, where my HOTAS bindings are. I spent hours going through each module, saving it all as I went on an external SSD in case I might fathom out how to save myself hours of fiddling again. I Fully expect the whole thing to collapse, for big red crosses to flash up on the screen and honking noises of negativity to ring out the demise of yet another failed installation. We’ll see I suppose.
 

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12 hours ago, MAXsenna said:

Your ISP somehow throttles connections to "Russian" sites? 

CDN is in Europe, or regional depending where you are in the world

I'm in the UK BT is my ISP and I am not having any issues with downloads. 

Which provider are you with?

thanks

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CDN is in Europe, or regional depending where you are in the world
I'm in the UK BT is my ISP and I am not having any issues with downloads. 
Which provider are you with?
thanks
Oh! No, not me, OP. I have never any issues, I always get a steady 65MBps from you guys!
IIRC OP has had problems before and he runs DCS in bootcamp, unless I mix users up.
I'd suggested before to have someone come over and test with another computer. And because he gets it to work with VPN, the only I can think of then will be the ISP or the route to your severs.

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Virgin Media.

I’ve had them out to me last week to check it all after I’d already taken my computer back to the shop to have it checked. The Virgin engineers found damage to cabling outside and re-installed the lot. Gave me a new router too for good measure and checked it all on both the engineers equipment before leaving.

I’ve been going nuts for about a month just trying to install these. Something in my system doesn’t want me flying about the virtual Channel in my virtual Spitfire or anything else. I’m baffled. I wouldn’t mind but I’ve spent a fortune on DCS. Besides, my neighbour bought me a ridiculous old school flying helmet and it’s just not getting the use it deserves.

cheers for looking.

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13 minutes ago, Slippa said:


Virgin Media.

I’ve had them out to me last week to check it all after I’d already taken my computer back to the shop to have it checked. The Virgin engineers found damage to cabling outside and re-installed the lot. Gave me a new router too for good measure and checked it all on both the engineers equipment before leaving.

I’ve been going nuts for about a month just trying to install these. Something in my system doesn’t want me flying about the virtual Channel in my virtual Spitfire or anything else. I’m baffled. I wouldn’t mind but I’ve spent a fortune on DCS. Besides, my neighbour bought me a ridiculous old school flying helmet and it’s just not getting the use it deserves.

cheers for looking.

Do you have access to a vpn, if so try it see if you get different results 

 

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Posted
21 hours ago, Slippa said:

Open Beta just installed.

I HAD to install and use a VPN. DCSWorld nor Open Beta will install without using a VPN. All my other software will. Why I don't know?

I looked around for a VPN last night, installed a ‘free trial’ job, Avast One, ran the installer exe. for Open-Beta and it installed.

I’m trying to install DCS stable version now. So far as I can tell the VPN is still running. The updater’s teasing its green bar across the screen copying files and I’ve got my fingers, toes and eyes crossed.

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6 hours ago, MAXsenna said:

IIRC OP has had problems before and he runs DCS in bootcamp, unless I mix users up.
I'd suggested before to have someone come over and test with another computer. And because he gets it to work with VPN, the only I can think of then will be the ISP or the route to your severs.
 


Yep, it’s me, running bootcamp with Windows 10… and now, a VPN, just for installation.

I’ve no idea why it’s been impossible to install this past month or so. I’ve barely ‘flown’. About 10 months ago I installed DCSWorld as you would anything else. No VPN, no exceptions through the firewall or anything special. Just installed it and spent the next few months crashing through thresholds in the Mossie and the Jug, requesting a disgraceful amount of repairs from peppered Spitfires and generally pleasure flying/crashing vintage warbirds. After a few months I installed Open-Beta too. Same thing, no trouble at all, no special tactics to get it installed, everything was ok. Somehow, something in my setup doesn’t want me installing them now. At least, not without the VPN.

Trying it on a different computer here isn’t really viable. Most I know use desktops at home or work and won’t experiment with any of it, especially since something’s a bit off.

DCS just finished installing. With a VPN. First time of trying.
Windows wants a “.NET Framework 3.5 (includes .NET 2.0 and 3.0)” whatever that’s for but as I’ve said, barely anything else has been installed.

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Hmmm...
I understand, unless somebody's got a laptop it's obviously not an easy task.
I see no reason for this to be an issue, especially if it worked fine before, unless something happened to your network. If you had your computer out for repairs, you should have tried in the shop.
If I were you, I would try to download stuff from ED's user files and other places. You have a Steam account with games in it, or with other providers? Just to test if you have an overall problem, or just with DCS.

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The computer’s only 10 months old. I only took it back to Apple to have them check out the hardware for me. It was fine but I wanted to make sure and hear it from them. 
I do have a steam account but haven’t anything on it.

I’ve downloaded and installed all kinds of software over the past month just trying to set everything back up. The only things I’ve had any problems with are the two versions of DCS. 
Now that they’re installed, on what looks like a stable Windows, I’m trying to re-install all my HOTAS bindings. My C Drive is ridiculously stuffed now with nothing but Windows, DCS World & Open-Beta. 694 GB used, I won’t have a lot of room unless I try to move things around and that’ll likely drop me back down the plughole. I’m about to give it a test flight, hopefully.

I had a quick flight to test my HOTAS inputs were back as they should be. They weren’t. It’s looking like I’d have to reload each profile for each module individually from a backup external SSD. Unless I can find a quicker way. If I ever see Windows load again. (It loaded just as I typed this on an iPad).

I tried to copy and replace most of the Saved Games folder with the Config etc. folders from the external drive. It didn’t go to plan so I went the long way round and loaded profiles in Options for joystick, throttle, rudders etc. individually. Track IR was playing up so I exited to desktop and rebooted. Then I spent about half an hour trying to reboot into Windows, each time watching the never ending spinning dots on a black screen without any progress. The fans roared into life and with my room starting to sound like a hairdressers convention I turned it all off for a bit.

A cup of tea and a biscuit later, it looks to have rebooted properly so I’ll crack on trying to find a way to sort my profiles out. It’s all still a bit of a mystery what’s made all this happen. 

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I don't think it's anything wrong with your computer of course. But it seems like Windows don't like it the way you describe it. Are the network drivers the correct ones?
As for your controllers, they will be assigned an ID when they are plugged in. That will change whenever you plug it in elsewhere, or even re-install Windows. That new ID will be seen in the file name for each controller for each module. And can be copied and replaced in the old files filenames. Do some tests, and if it works, get a "mass renamer", can't think of any from the top of my head, and do it to all the old files, and it should save you a lot of time.

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I could have a look and find out about the network drivers, I wouldn’t know what’s in it without having a mooch about.

Hopefully, I’ve just finished loading each individual profile for each modules. I came here and had a bit of a read trying to see which way’s best before just getting on and going through it. Typically, I was busy doing it and didn’t see your post. It took a while but not as bad as re-mapping every switch and dial all over again. I’ll be glad to give it a test. I know I’ll be a while before I’ve got things how I like them, there’s always a bit of tinkering to do.

I’ll have to find a ‘renamer’ thingy for next time. Cheers for the pointers. I’m half expecting it all to collapse before long but will see if I can’t get a bit of air-time first.

cheers.

 

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I could have a look and find out about the network drivers, I wouldn’t know what’s in it without having a mooch about.
Hopefully, I’ve just finished loading each individual profile for each modules. I came here and had a bit of a read trying to see which way’s best before just getting on and going through it. Typically, I was busy doing it and didn’t see your post. It took a while but not as bad as re-mapping every switch and dial all over again. I’ll be glad to give it a test. I know I’ll be a while before I’ve got things how I like them, there’s always a bit of tinkering to do.
I’ll have to find a ‘renamer’ thingy for next time. Cheers for the pointers. I’m half expecting it all to collapse before long but will see if I can’t get a bit of air-time first.
cheers.
 
Well, I'll cross my fingers for you that it doesn't happen!

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1 hour ago, MAXsenna said:

Well, I'll cross my fingers for you that it doesn't happen!

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You and me both. Cheers Max.

@silverdevil Looking now, cheers for that.

ETA - That PDF’s exactly what I could’ve done with earlier. Nice one again silver, cheers.

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Installing 2.8.3 Open Beta on a new Windows 11 computer.

The basic program (the 2 aircraft and 2 theaters) installed OK, but i kept getting the “Server capacity may be limited at the moment. Please try again later” error when trying to install the other modules in my account. Tried numerous times selecting individual module or batch selections with no success.

Tearing hair out until I decided to check these forums to see if anyone else had seen this problem and that was the smartest thing I did that day.

Installed the VPN I was saving for later and everything then loaded OK.

Thanks Slippa !   :notworthy:

 

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On 3/24/2023 at 10:44 PM, Terry Dactil said:

 

Installed the VPN I was saving for later and everything then loaded OK.

Thanks Slippa !   :notworthy:

 

 


Thanks go to everyone else in the thread as well as the Mod that pointed me towards the VPN. Glad you got it sorted but it begs the question why we couldn’t install it like any other software?

I don’t really want to have anything installed that I don’t need and until this happened I’d never used a VPN. I still have one running and recently updated DCS. I had the log-in problems for a bit but got it running. Barely touched any of it for months, flew a Spit and a Mossie the other day for a bit. Someone was flying a Gazelle so I thought I’d jump in and try to remember how to get airborne. Spent an hour or so tickling the mouse as I’d yet to bind everything. Went through a training cold startup which, unless I mixed something up ‘taught me’ to get it up and running but also shut it down somehow before take-off. I went and ate a lovely casserole, sod the choppers. Might have a look again later but I’m still curious about the VPN

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