bephanten Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 How would a 3d model update by developer would affect this project? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doughguy Posted January 19 Author Share Posted January 19 8 hours ago, bephanten said: How would a 3d model update by developer would affect this project? it would be for naught as the whole UVW layout would be different, if it gets a total rehaul from scratch and not some fixes to the current one. https://sr-f.de/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doughguy Posted January 24 Author Share Posted January 24 Its still going Added washing stains, reduced the walkway dust, fixed the supercharger intake weld seam (horrors... horrors), fixed missing fabric dents between controlsurface spars, redone tailsection/stabilizer layout. Added dryness to rim of mudd. Tried around with spray paint application and way to imitate that coarse effect. Eventually might try a new brush, but atm, noise does it. Still some normal map things to fix ive missed... 6 1 https://sr-f.de/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doughguy Posted January 26 Author Share Posted January 26 added data plate, exhaust heat discoloration and fuel leak discoloration. not too sure about the exhaust heat discoloration. there is some pics around showing a faint tint, but by the looks of the the soot-y fuel exhaust would actually just layer on top of it and only the parts in direct contact with the exhaust flames would get adirect - white discoloration. 5 1 https://sr-f.de/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doughguy Posted January 29 Author Share Posted January 29 After some testing i could find/create a good brush to imitate the luftwaffe splotchy application of paint and partially redone the camo. Tweaked the markings to be a bit less gloss. Might reduce further. Also the gasoline stains were fixed in color and adjusted. 4 2 https://sr-f.de/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doughguy Posted February 4 Author Share Posted February 4 (edited) Right... i think ive arrived at a point where i cant really think of improving anything anymore. Ive redone the matte fraying edges on all markings so that they match the frayin where stencils lifted and left a more soft mark. before that it was just a uniform inner glow. also fixed the fug16zy morane antenna which was actually made out of wood. last thing ive done was to tint the used metal parts to represent different alloy batches. ill just take care of the silvering on the metal surfaces and then do few more 7./JG26 machines. Edited February 4 by Doughguy 4 3 https://sr-f.de/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doughguy Posted February 7 Author Share Posted February 7 (edited) So... a little study of Brown 4 of 7./JG26.. i only know 2 pictures of that thing... and now try to determine the colors... some stuff has to be made up pattern wise.. but we can draw parallels. Now. Attached are 3 images. if you look at the first two, youll se the color swatches i use for RLM75, 76 and 81, black and the orang-y brown used for the group marking and the number 4. Studying the picture ive noticed that the gear leg root cover right above the gear is pretty much lighter than the surrounding area. Neither JaPo, nor Eagle Publications did seem to notice this or discarded it for whatever reasons? JaPos conclusion says that the gear cover and surrounding under/upperwing is all brown RLM81. EP / Crandall says its all RLM75. But, compare the color/light values of the gear cover with the sidesection of the tail. same value! it is known, that the fuselage was painted with a yellow greenish variant of RLM 76, while gear covers seemingly were not, but RLM76, 81 or 75. Now, if you look close at the area, where the upper portion of the gear cover inserts into the wing it casts a shadow. Both, the gear cover part and wing root cover have the same value in that shadowy area. If you progress to the right youll see a somewhat opened hatch which has the rim coverd in a lighter color. Incidentally it shares the same value as the gearcover and gear root cover and aeleron! Now, how to determine the rest? Assuming the wings leading edge and bottom is painted either RLM75 or brown RLM81 we can simply put swatches next to each other in exposed areas and in shadowy areas and then play with brightness/contrast to match the values of the previously determined RLM76! Bang on RLM81! Now, as we have that tricky part, we need to look at the top side of this plane. The only pics i have is attached. It is known that late war MiMetall build planes had very high contrast patterns, namely RLM76 and RLM81 as per JaPo, however, i have to check this out as its tricky to deal with as photoquality isnt best and it appears over exposed. The breakup color might be RLM76 or RLM82. Both colors were used on MiMetall birds. The mystery remains the engine cowling and the tail section to some extend. It is established that Wrk.Nr. 500647 is of the third and last batch produced by MiMetall. Its sisterbird 500666 has the whole forward section painted in one uniform color, so its save to say it was painted in the same way, but it remains speculation. The tailsection is what makes brown 4 famous as it uses a Ta152 tail. Of course we dont have this in dcs... but what the heck.. Id imagine - and this is speculation- that the tail would use a different shade of RLM76 as the tail sections were build by different subcontractors and delivered prepainted. To "buff out" uneveness in camo pattern, the "saddle" section between tail and center fuselage, which contains the extension plug, was usually painted with a different color, with MiMetall builds its RLM82 light green. I have no idea about the horizontal stabs tho... top and bottom... Edited February 7 by Doughguy 2 https://sr-f.de/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doughguy Posted February 14 Author Share Posted February 14 Small update. Im evaluating new info i could scavange on painting procedures of the dora. As established the junkers pre manufactured jumo engines came prepainted in a light blue rlm76 and rlm81 green on top having a very clean straight demarcation line. Upon assembly it is said that the power egg was oversprayed in the blue-green/beige version of rlm76 and topped off with brown rlm81. Same method was sort of applied to tail section as these came premade from another subcontractor. The joint then was overpainted in the saddle section. With the mimetall 500xxx series this was done with rlm 82 as previously discussed. Pictures somehow underline aforementioned procedure as the cowling often has a misalligned demarcation line most noticably on the right side where the demarcation line of the power egg is somewhat centered around the middle of the supercharger scoop and on the fuselage the demarcation line is higher around the strengthening spars. This methid was explicitly stated for the 5006xx series. However there seems to be a tripping stone... rlm81 green and rlm 81 brown look very identical on b/w. Nearly indistiguishable... Also, planes like the blue 12 of the same series also had the top front of the cowling sprayed in rlm82 light green... that strikes it pretty odd given the fact how much paint was used / wasted and lookin at the dire situations the luftwaffe was facing... Basically youd have rlm81g/rlm76b then rlm81b/rlm76bg and then a coat of rlm82.... overspray a green with brown to be resprayed with green?? Sorta odd... It sure would make a nice visual detail but the question about execution and time investment vs result arises... Anyway.. ive got some books incoming that might help hopefully... Theres few minor adjustmwnts and fixes bein done meanwhile along with slight color hue corrections. Unique serial nrs were made for brown 18 and 4, underside spray pattern of the elevators were fixed, nr "4" was fixed in shape and dimension. The droptanks were colored rlm65 as it seems this was the predominant color. Also theyll receive some dings in the normal. 4 1 https://sr-f.de/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiGCap1 Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 Can‘t wait for the final results! Thank You so much for Your tremendous work! 1 http://www.instagram.com/spetersen13/?fbclid=IwAR07OCbRZX6qISe0fS8iUQfzts_iazbm7UEsxiKNnqviADGTaRWJJN7iAws http://www.facebook.com/spetersen13/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doughguy Posted February 17 Author Share Posted February 17 (edited) Right. Worked on the tail section and jumo drop in as per JaPo book procedures. Base in rlm76 light blue and then sprayed in the beige variant. Engine topped with RLM81 green. The effect is "minimal" and did consume hours.... oh well.. it is what it is... Also adjusted colors as the rlm81 brown was tad too dark imho. further colors on brown 4, 14 and 2 and a generic 7/26 will be differnt from another in their tonality. Its pretty interesting to see the battles one has to fight with finding the right colors especially for a PBR environment. In the shaded view, rlm82 looks nearly slime green, whereas in diffuse only its a medium olive green. So even if there were correct RLM charts, colors would have to be corrected for a PBR environment or would look "off". Edited February 17 by Doughguy 2 2 https://sr-f.de/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doughguy Posted February 17 Author Share Posted February 17 Brown 14 next. 4 1 https://sr-f.de/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doughguy Posted February 22 Author Share Posted February 22 Imma take a coffee break and do some reading. 2 https://sr-f.de/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doughguy Posted March 3 Author Share Posted March 3 Those JaPo books opened a can of worms. The prop blades were primed with the infamous RLM99 (fictional) green-yellow primer. Many paints used were very deluted and thinly applied due to the progression of war and its shortcomings. I tried to implement this, but for some technical stuff ive omited this, but applied it to eg, break up pattern on the wings and brushstrokes on the prop blades. Also added some small details to the gun cowling and a forgotten detail on the bottom. A grove for the ETC rack. The normals for the gun covers on the wings were also modified to pop a bit more. Red markers on the push buttons were painted red. Albeit late war doras often had the bare minimum of service markings applied i just added it for <profanity> n giggles. Ill be stressing the skin a bit more to break up uniformity in the next days. 4 2 https://sr-f.de/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doughguy Posted March 12 Author Share Posted March 12 7 1 https://sr-f.de/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raphomet Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 Excellent skins on the pictures. Sadly, not a single OneDrive link to your skins works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doughguy Posted March 17 Author Share Posted March 17 I just tried downloading. they work. the file you download from user files is a pdf that contains the links to one drive. please retry. Meanwhile: Generic 7. / JG.26 skin https://sr-f.de/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doughguy Posted March 23 Author Share Posted March 23 finished the generic 7./jg26 texture and made a color variant for the squadron leader. Brown 7 is the last unique dora of 7./JG26 im gonna do. 6 2 https://sr-f.de/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ala13_ManOWar Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 Beatiful skins mate, great job . 2 "I went into the British Army believing that if you want peace you must prepare for war. I believe now that if you prepare for war, you get war." -- Major-General Frederick B. Maurice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doughguy Posted March 24 Author Share Posted March 24 Brown 7 of 7./JG26 Late Fiesler Build 601xxx series 5 3 https://sr-f.de/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucic Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 Awesome work! Is there a way to replace all DCS liveries with yours in pre-existing/stock DCS missions? I mainly play instant action missions/free flights. https://akaagar.github.io/briefing-room-for-dcs/ F-5E simpit project https://forum.dcs.world/topic/318106-f-5e-simpit-cockpit-dimensions-and-flight-controls/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doughguy Posted March 26 Author Share Posted March 26 Hi, afaik it is, but im not sure. Youd have to tinker around with the lua files, or create new ones https://sr-f.de/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucic Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 11 hours ago, Doughguy said: Hi, afaik it is, but im not sure. Youd have to tinker around with the lua files, or create new ones I used to do custom multiskin configs for Bob2 WoV. With DCS I'm in the dark. I might look into it sometime. https://akaagar.github.io/briefing-room-for-dcs/ F-5E simpit project https://forum.dcs.world/topic/318106-f-5e-simpit-cockpit-dimensions-and-flight-controls/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doughguy Posted March 29 Author Share Posted March 29 Brown 7 done. Packing 5 2 https://sr-f.de/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucic Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 I've just edited my go to IA mission (Channel - furball with Thunderbolts) for my Dora to wear your livery. Magnificent! But as soon as I get hit with any gunfire, the legacy "damage" textures are being applied. Supposed bullet and shrapnel holes. Your fine liveries go with them like a fine saddle on a pig! Do you have any plans to at least refresh the old "damage" textures a bit? 1 https://akaagar.github.io/briefing-room-for-dcs/ F-5E simpit project https://forum.dcs.world/topic/318106-f-5e-simpit-cockpit-dimensions-and-flight-controls/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doughguy Posted April 3 Author Share Posted April 3 i should i should. The dora should get a total overhaul. lets see. i need to take a small break from her but then i wanna come back at full force but with new cockpit textures. 2 3 https://sr-f.de/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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