Reverb G2 starts DCS in black screen

[Sandman1330]

Reverb G2 using WMR (OpenXR). When I start up DCS, I get the "triangle transition" from WMR to DCS typically twice. Sometimes it does it three times. If it does it three times, it seems to miss the "window" to catch DCS, and DCS will start on the monitor in VR mode, but all I get is black screen in the headset. 

It seems to do the triangle screen three times if my controllers are turned on, and twice if they aren't.

Anyone else have the same issues?

[speed-of-heat]

Ar you using xrnecksafer? If so try turning it off

Or rather not running it before you start dcs

[Sandman1330]

1 hour ago, speed-of-heat said:

Ar you using xrnecksafer? If so try turning it off

Or rather not running it before you start dcs

Thx for the reply. Nope, no mods. Necksafer would make me sick, lol.

[speed-of-heat]

the only thing i can think off is to press whatever you have set up to recentre the headset view numpad 5 by default

in dcs

[ISantus]

My system occassionally does this as well (G2, Win 11, 5900x, 4090). The only thing that I have been able to do is to exit DCS, exit WMR, power cycle the headset, and restart my load up process. This seems to happen to me when the computer has been running for mutliple days (no reboot), and I haven't touched DCS in that time. Over the last few months it seems to have improved and I don't see it as much, but when I do, I follow the above. Hopefully that is helpful. 

[Sandman1330]

Thanks guys.

It's not a centering issue (I have tried re-centering, in the hope it was just off-center and stuck in the VR hangar wall or something).

It's very strange. For diagnosis purposes, do you guys get the "triangle transition" from WMR to DCS more than once? I always get it twice. It shows, then kicks back to the cliffhouse, then shows again and goes into DCS. With controllers turned on, it does this 3 times - and ends up black screen. It's almost like it sticks in some feedback loop and "misses" the chance to catch DCS as it loads, leaving me stuck outside DCS (as you'd see happen if you kicked yourself back to the cliffhouse in game, no way to get back into DCS even though DCS still thinks you're in VR).

Edited March 8, 2023 by Sandman1330

[ISantus]

Mine always transitions from the cliff hosue through the triangles twice. Generally the firs time I only get audio in the right speaker and quieter then the second time louder audio in both headphones. I have never had it to it more than twice. When mine hangs on the black screen I can hear DCS but I can't see it. I see only black, not even the cliff house.

Have you tried running a repair of DCS? Have you tried resetting your environment calibration in WMR? Have you tried launching DCS just not in VR to confirm if DCS is intact? 

[tangobravo]

Mine does exactly this, sometimes get black screen as you described but I just restart the process and all is fine.

6 hours ago, ISantus said:

Mine always transitions from the cliff hosue through the triangles twice. Generally the firs time I only get audio in the right speaker and quieter then the second time louder audio in both headphones. I have never had it to it more than twice. When mine hangs on the black screen I can hear DCS but I can't see it. I see only black, not even the cliff house.

Have you tried running a repair of DCS? Have you tried resetting your environment calibration in WMR? Have you tried launching DCS just not in VR to confirm if DCS is intact? 

 

[Sandman1330]

13 hours ago, ISantus said:

Have you tried running a repair of DCS? Have you tried resetting your environment calibration in WMR? Have you tried launching DCS just not in VR to confirm if DCS is intact?

Thanks, my experience sounds very similar to yours, even down to the sound.

It's been doing this since I got my Reverb G2 (3 years now?). In that time I've done multiple DCS reinstalls (for various reasons), and even a complete system wipe and re-install (new hard drive). 

I suspect the only thing that may solve it is more direct WMR integration with DCS. MSFS 2020 is a very very smooth transition between VR and flat panel, that would be the gold standard we'll hopefully one day get to.

[speed-of-heat]

Always twice for me, I go via opencomposite for the moment

[Zebra1-1]

Have you tried clearing the environment variables in WMR settings? 

If using OpenXR with OpenComposite, is it up to date? 

Have you tried to repair your DCS install? 

[Sandman1330]

7 hours ago, Zebra1-1 said:

Have you tried clearing the environment variables in WMR settings

How do I do this? Would like to try it.

Interestingly, using the new MT exe file, I only get the triangle screen once now. Still goes twice in the ST exe file.

[Derbroomaster]

On 3/10/2023 at 10:27 PM, Sandman1330 said:

How do I do this? Would like to try it.

Interestingly, using the new MT exe file, I only get the triangle screen once now. Still goes twice in the ST exe file.

Pretty sure he means this: https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/121191-clear-environment-data-windows-mixed-reality-windows-10-a.html

 

Edited March 31, 2023 by Derbroomaster

[Glide]

How much RAM do you have? 

[Sandman1330]

On 4/4/2023 at 10:07 AM, Glide said:

How much RAM do you have? 

32GB

[Dopey]

Seems I have a similar issue with my G2 Reverb. 

Since a couple of days the headset stays dark when firing up DCS in VR. The mirror picture is visible at my monitor. Sometime sound does play through the headset, sometimes it even reacts to movement of the headset . In other case DCS starts and instead of showing on the desktop (the mirror of the VR) it remains an icon on the taskbar and does not open. After running several repairs and rolling back the nvidia driver no results. After several tries it suddenly will start. 

All this time when I try to run MSFS in VR it always works without any issues. For me that rules out a cable problem with the headset.

I am running DCS on a computer with the following specs:

Device name    DCS-PC
Processor    AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 6-Core Processor                4.20 GHz
Installed RAM    48.0 GB
System type    64-bit operating system, x64-based processor

Edition    Windows 11 Pro
Version    23H2
Installed on    ‎5/‎16/‎2022
OS build    22635.2552
Experience    Windows Feature Experience Pack 1000.22679.1000.0
 

Attached to log files.

dcs.log.old is the file where the headset failed

dcs.log is the file right after the previous file where it suddenly worked again

I hope someone can help making sense of this issue

 

dcs.log dcs.log.old

[oldmanflan]

On 11/2/2024 at 5:06 AM, Dopey said:

Seems I have a similar issue with my G2 Reverb. 

....

 

Exact same issue here. My G2 has been working perfectly with DCS for a couple years. But as of this last week, I'm experiencing all the same symptoms you've described. 

The headset works perfectly fine with MSFS. At this point I'm convinced it's one of the recent DCS updates that borked it. 

[Rainer_B.]

Knock on Wood. Played DCS this Morning first Time after the Upgrades. All well. The only Problem is the really long Loading time of the Textures at first Start. Deleted the FXO and Metashader folders after every Update but this Time the Loading took forever.

AMD 5800x3d

64 GB RAM

RTX 3080 12G

Win 10 latest Build

[oldmanflan]

8 hours ago, Rainer_B. said:

Knock on Wood. Played DCS this Morning first Time after the Upgrades. All well. The only Problem is the really long Loading time of the Textures at first Start. Deleted the FXO and Metashader folders after every Update but this Time the Loading took forever.

AMD 5800x3d

64 GB RAM

RTX 3080 12G

Win 10 latest Build

It looks like there's a fresh Nvidia graphics driver out that apparently fixes a bunch of graphic glitches. Perhaps that's the issue. I'm going to update and give it a try in just a bit. I'll report back. 

Edited November 5, 2024 by oldmanflan