Voodooflies Posted March 21, 2023 Posted March 21, 2023 (edited) Hey there, I wonder if there's something that could be done for this "issue" that seem to affect all VR users as far as I know. The PNVS through the monocle is extremely shaky as it tracks the users head micro-movements making it uncomfortable when used. I know couple VR games such as Onward which smoothen PiP while DCS VR seems to track "raw" inputs from your head. I haven't got the chance to wear an actual IHADSS yet, but I doubt it's that shaky in real life and I believe the PNVS display of the actual aircraft does ignore the users uncontrolled micro head movements. Any thoughts about it ? Edited March 24, 2023 by Voodooflies 4 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
MRTX Posted March 24, 2023 Posted March 24, 2023 Yeah would be awesome if ED could implement some form of motion smoothing for the nightvision system in VR.
Voodooflies Posted March 24, 2023 Author Posted March 24, 2023 If you guys see it by any chance... We'd love to get your feedback. @BIGNEWY @NineLine [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Sr. Posted March 24, 2023 Posted March 24, 2023 (edited) You need OpenXR toolkit... then enable the shaking reduction. Not a good combo when using motion smoothing though. Edited March 24, 2023 by Sr. Ryzen 7 5800X3D | 64GB DDR4 3600| MSI RTX 4080 16GB Ventus 3X OC | Samsung 970 Evo 2TB NVME | Quest 3 | Logitech X-56 throttle | VKB NXT Premium | Win 11 "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." --Arthur C Clark
Voodooflies Posted March 24, 2023 Author Posted March 24, 2023 (edited) 18 hours ago, Sr. said: You need OpenXR toolkit... then enable the shaking reduction. Not a good combo when using motion smoothing though. Will definitely try it ! It would be great if it was native to DCS. I just switched to OpenXR. Thank you ! Edited March 24, 2023 by Voodooflies [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Sr. Posted March 24, 2023 Posted March 24, 2023 46 minutes ago, Voodooflies said: Will definitely try it ! It would be great if it was native to DCS. I just switched to OpenXR. Thank you ! I run it about 70% Ryzen 7 5800X3D | 64GB DDR4 3600| MSI RTX 4080 16GB Ventus 3X OC | Samsung 970 Evo 2TB NVME | Quest 3 | Logitech X-56 throttle | VKB NXT Premium | Win 11 "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." --Arthur C Clark
Voodooflies Posted March 24, 2023 Author Posted March 24, 2023 12 minutes ago, Sr. said: I run it about 70% It appears I don't have this feature on the OpenXR version I run, which is the latest. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Sr. Posted March 24, 2023 Posted March 24, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Voodooflies said: It appears I don't have this feature on the OpenXR version I run, which is the latest. 1.30 I believe https://mbucchia.github.io/OpenXR-Toolkit/ Not to be confused with OpenXR Tools For Windows Mixed Reality Edited March 24, 2023 by Sr. Ryzen 7 5800X3D | 64GB DDR4 3600| MSI RTX 4080 16GB Ventus 3X OC | Samsung 970 Evo 2TB NVME | Quest 3 | Logitech X-56 throttle | VKB NXT Premium | Win 11 "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." --Arthur C Clark
Voodooflies Posted March 24, 2023 Author Posted March 24, 2023 12 minutes ago, Sr. said: 1.30 I believe https://mbucchia.github.io/OpenXR-Toolkit/ Not to be confused with OpenXR Tools For Windows Mixed Reality Yep that's the one, I don't have the option through the ingame menu. Weird. What headset are you using ? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Sr. Posted March 25, 2023 Posted March 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Voodooflies said: Yep that's the one, I don't have the option through the ingame menu. Weird. What headset are you using ? Reverb G2 Ryzen 7 5800X3D | 64GB DDR4 3600| MSI RTX 4080 16GB Ventus 3X OC | Samsung 970 Evo 2TB NVME | Quest 3 | Logitech X-56 throttle | VKB NXT Premium | Win 11 "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." --Arthur C Clark
corbu1 Posted March 25, 2023 Posted March 25, 2023 That‘s interesting…..I‘ll give it a try later this day and check this function. I have OpenXR Toolkit 1.3.0 installed. DCS Version: 2.9.15.9408 Modules: UH-1H - SA342 - KA-50 BS3 - MI-24P - MI-8MTV2 - AH-64D - CH-47F - OH-58D - UH-60L(Mod, n.i.) - OH-6A(Mod, n.i.) - A-10CII - F-16C - F/A-18C - AJS37 - F-14 - MiG-21bis - JF-17 - Mirage F1 - MiG-29A - (prepurchase) - FC2024 -Combined Arms - Supercarrier - NTTR - Normandy2.0 - Channel - Persian Gulf - Syria - SA - Sinai - Afghanistan - Kola - Iraq - Cold War Germany — Waiting for: BO-105 - AH-1G/F(Mod) DCS-Client: 9800X3D, 64GB 6200, RTX3090, 1TB M2 NVMe(win10), 4TB M2 NVMe(DCS), VR VivePro2, PointCTRL, VaicomPro, Wacom Intuos S with VRK v2Beta DCS-DServer: 11600KF, 64GB 3600, GTX1080, 1TB M2 NVMe(win10), 2TB M2 NVMe(DCSDServer), DCS Olympus Simpit: NLR Flightsim Pro Cyclic: TM Warthog Grip with 30cm Extension + VPforce Rhino FFB FW Stick: TM Warthog Grip and Base, Throttle: TM Warthog Pedals: Komodo Sim. with Dampers Collective: VPC Rotorplus+AH-64D Grip Other: NLR HF8, Buttkicker (3*MiniConcert), TotalControls AH64D MPD‘s and EUFD, Alain Dufour’s AH-64 TEDAC, TM MFD, Streamdecks (1*32,3*15,1*6), VPC CP#1
Sr. Posted March 25, 2023 Posted March 25, 2023 (edited) 12 hours ago, Voodooflies said: It appears I don't have this feature on the OpenXR version I run, which is the latest. was reading through the changelog, seems the name has been changed to "over-prediction." Edited March 25, 2023 by Sr. Ryzen 7 5800X3D | 64GB DDR4 3600| MSI RTX 4080 16GB Ventus 3X OC | Samsung 970 Evo 2TB NVME | Quest 3 | Logitech X-56 throttle | VKB NXT Premium | Win 11 "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." --Arthur C Clark
Voodooflies Posted March 25, 2023 Author Posted March 25, 2023 9 hours ago, Sr. said: was reading through the changelog, seems the name has been changed to "over-prediction." Right, so that's the option, I'll try it out to see if it works. Thanks Sr. 1 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Voodooflies Posted March 28, 2023 Author Posted March 28, 2023 So I tested, and I seem to have better performances for some reason and the PNVS feel a bit more stable but it could be even more stable if ED would implement some stabilization on the display for VR users, natively. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Sr. Posted March 28, 2023 Posted March 28, 2023 (edited) 52 minutes ago, Voodooflies said: So I tested, and I seem to have better performances for some reason and the PNVS feel a bit more stable but it could be even more stable if ED would implement some stabilization on the display for VR users, natively. My first experience with it was shortly after the AH-64 came out. In VR I use the cross icon as my mouse pointer with HOTAS mapped for right/left click. Prior to (then) Shake Reduction in OXRToolkit, it was difficult for me to accurately enter waypoint info on the keypad since my head was driving the cursor. Also made aiming the cannon much more stable. I no longer use motion smoothing of any kind, but I do recall it played hell with MS. Edited March 28, 2023 by Sr. Ryzen 7 5800X3D | 64GB DDR4 3600| MSI RTX 4080 16GB Ventus 3X OC | Samsung 970 Evo 2TB NVME | Quest 3 | Logitech X-56 throttle | VKB NXT Premium | Win 11 "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." --Arthur C Clark
Voodooflies Posted April 20, 2023 Author Posted April 20, 2023 Just a little update, which is off topic but I thought it may be worth sharing. I switched on the Experimental Mode of the latest OpenXR version and I got even better performance. My VR experience haven't been this smooth ever before, it is super comfortable and enjoyable. Thank you for the tips @Sr. 1 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
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