Improved Russian Naval Assets

[CarbonFox]

Would love to see the Russian warships like the Kirov battlecruiser and the Krivak get updated models to put them more on par with the other detailed naval assets.

Also, would like to see additional RU Navy vessels like the Sovremenny and Udaloy class DDGs as well as possibly the Akula class SSN seeing as we only the have the Kilo class.

Edited April 3, 2023 by CarbonFox

[upyr1]

Once we get the Sovremany and Udaloy we will have the Kuznetsov carrier battle group. I think ED needs to work on naval assets over all 

[Northstar98]

Would love to see the Sovremenny and Udaloy (especially in mid 80s fit) and just about any Soviet/Russian submarine would fit on the Kola map (personally I'd go for SSGNs like the Charlie and Oscar as they have more applicability to DCS World in its current state).

[bies]

As Russian navy (understood as Russian Federation) are remnants of Soviet Navy it could be possible to model them better. Kuznetsov, Kiev, Kirov, Slava, Kara, Kresta, Kynda, Sverdlov, Sovremenny, Udaloy, Kashin, Kanin, Krivak and many more are all Soviet build and developed ships so there should be enough data to model them in more dateiled way than we have today in DCS when it comes to systems, sensors, weapon etc.

When it comes to graphics and 3D model it's just a mater of money, Nick Grey said in the interview how much they need to pay for one good quality model, it wasn't exactly chap. Maybe it would be better to make 3 good quality models instead of 1 of amazing quality?

 

Edited April 6, 2023 by bies

[CarbonFox]

China also purchased four Sovremenny's so they could also serve as an expansion I guess to the Chinese naval assets.  

Edited April 7, 2023 by CarbonFox

[upyr1]

2 hours ago, CarbonFox said:

China also purchased four Sovremenny's so they could also serve as an expansion I guess to the Chinese naval assets.  

 

 

I'm hoping Dekka adds them 

[upyr1]

22 hours ago, bies said:

When it comes to graphics and 3D model it's just a mater of money, Nick Grey said in the interview how much they need to pay for one good quality model, it wasn't exactly chap. Maybe it would be better to make 3 good quality models instead of 1 of amazing quality?

 

This is the reason I keep saying we need sea and land modules. I figure there is some interest in them, and it would kill the asset loop. It is expensive to add assets but no one wants to buy asset packs so we're limited on the assets we can get. However if we get a family of Naval and land modules then those of us who are interested in that aspect of combat will buy the modules and cover the cost of the assets.

[Silver_Dragon]

1 minute ago, upyr1 said:

This is the reason I keep saying we need sea and land modules. I figure there is some interest in them, and it would kill the asset loop. It is expensive to add assets but no one wants to buy asset packs so we're limited on the assets we can get. However if we get a family of Naval and land modules then those of us who are interested in that aspect of combat will buy the modules and cover the cost of the assets.

Sea and Land modules require big improvements and making laking funtionality on the core to build them. Build "realistic" sea modules has a big problem without some open sources, imagine intent build a Kirov or a Kresta without understand how working a radar or a misile fire control.

[upyr1]

55 minutes ago, Silver_Dragon said:

Sea and Land modules require big improvements and making laking funtionality on the core to build them. Build "realistic" sea modules has a big problem without some open sources, imagine intent build a Kirov or a Kresta without understand how working a radar or a misile fire control.

 

I know DCS would need a lot of improvements before we could have decent land and naval modules, but I think they would be worth it. Also related to how much open source material there is available is how much detail do we actually need? I figure the bare minimum would be something from the captain's perspective where AI carries out the orders. Obviously you would need to know enough about the ship's systems to model them accurately however you don't need to know what every switch does. On the other hand if they could go for a multiplayer mode where people take different stations. 

 

[Silver_Dragon]

17 minutes ago, upyr1 said:

I know DCS would need a lot of improvements before we could have decent land and naval modules, but I think they would be worth it. Also related to how much open source material there is available is how much detail do we actually need? I figure the bare minimum would be something from the captain's perspective where AI carries out the orders. Obviously you would need to know enough about the ship's systems to model them accurately however you don't need to know what every switch does. On the other hand if they could go for a multiplayer mode where people take different stations. 

 

I only expect someone on Sea modules, similarly to Dangerous Waters, not more easy... from here, only can raise.

Edited April 7, 2023 by Silver_Dragon

[upyr1]

7 hours ago, Silver_Dragon said:

I only expect someone on Sea modules, similarly to Dangerous Waters, not more easy... from here, only can raise.

 

 

I've not played Dangerous Waters, so I am not sure what it is like. Anyway I'm not sure if there is enough information for the Russian ships. I have always figured the class I want to see the in the first naval module would be the  Iowa-class battleships. I figure even if we can't get the information for the Kirov we could still get an improved AI version funded through the Iowa module 

[Seaeagle]

On 4/7/2023 at 4:51 PM, CarbonFox said:

China also purchased four Sovremenny's so they could also serve as an expansion I guess to the Chinese naval assets.  

 

Yes but there are quite a few diffferences between the Russian Sovremennys(Pr. 956A) and the two first delivered Chinese ones(Pr. 956E) - and far more for the later ones( Pr. 956EM).

So the same 3D model cannot be used for all - not without major modifications anyway.