maxTRX Posted April 16, 2023 Posted April 16, 2023 Anyone knows if the Harms are capable to target a WPTDSG point on the ground, emitting or not? I would think so. Either go to the point or self destruct? Currently, they'll drift off a mile or so from the PB point and smack the ground if no programmed emitters are active.
Solution Hulkbust44 Posted April 16, 2023 Solution Posted April 16, 2023 2 hours ago, oldcrusty said: Anyone knows if the Harms are capable to target a WPTDSG point on the ground, emitting or not? I would think so. Either go to the point or self destruct? Currently, they'll drift off a mile or so from the PB point and smack the ground if no programmed emitters are active. No, the HARMs need an emitter to be at accurate. The HARM is going to a location, at an altitude where it can best see emitters within a 1 or 5nm (no source atm) radius of the reference target point. The new AARGMs (AGM-88E) have a GPS and improved INS to try to hit an emitter at its last known location.
bonesvf103 Posted April 17, 2023 Posted April 17, 2023 Didn't the Shrike used to remember the location of a radar emitter in case they were turned off in flight? Or am I just taking something from the "Flight of the Intruder" movie and turning it into reality? v6, boNes "Also, I would prefer a back seater over the extra gas any day. I would have 80 pounds of flesh to eat and a pair of glasses to start a fire." --F/A-18 Hornet pilot
Temetre Posted April 18, 2023 Posted April 18, 2023 (edited) Am 17.4.2023 um 15:08 schrieb bonesvf103: Didn't the Shrike used to remember the location of a radar emitter in case they were turned off in flight? Or am I just taking something from the "Flight of the Intruder" movie and turning it into reality? v6, boNes I could imagine that they use some INS logic to keep flying at the target, be it just for the chance to reacquire the sensor or hit in the vague area. But mind that INS is inaccurate, and the missile doesnt actually know the exact location of the enemy transmitter. Shrikes and even HARMs use passive radar sensors, which are extremely inaccurate and cant tell range; kinda like really bad heatseeking missiles. I think the HTS pod of the F-16 is probably a good example for a passive radar sensor. Even with triangulation, a "great" solution is if you got 1x1 mile accuracy. And PB is not for shooting at the exact location of the enemy radar, but at the vague position inside of which it will seek for the radar. If you got the exact position, thats when you drop stuff like JSOWs at it. Edited April 18, 2023 by Temetre 1
maxTRX Posted April 18, 2023 Author Posted April 18, 2023 How about the second part of my question: any self destruct features? I was just imagining some major borkup with the swarm of HARMs raining down on friendly assets or some civies, just because the emitters cut out...
MarkyMark Posted April 18, 2023 Posted April 18, 2023 4 hours ago, oldcrusty said: How about the second part of my question: any self destruct features? I was just imagining some major borkup with the swarm of HARMs raining down on friendly assets or some civies, just because the emitters cut out... no, they cannot be self destructed, they do that fine when they hit the ground
maxTRX Posted April 18, 2023 Author Posted April 18, 2023 1 hour ago, MarkyMark said: no, they cannot be self destructed, they do that fine when they hit the ground I see
upyr1 Posted April 27, 2023 Posted April 27, 2023 On 4/17/2023 at 8:08 AM, bonesvf103 said: Didn't the Shrike used to remember the location of a radar emitter in case they were turned off in flight? Or am I just taking something from the "Flight of the Intruder" movie and turning it into reality? The movie got the Shrike and STARM confused. The STARM had a memory circuit which enabled it to remember the rough barring of a radar even if it shut down, the Shrike I don't believe ever did
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