Ich Dien Posted April 23, 2023 Posted April 23, 2023 (edited) Hi, I'm really struggling to get dumb weapons to drop in singles over any significant intervals. With BDUs and CBUs, I could essentially only ever get the first drop event to work even if I held the pickle button way past the target. In the attached track file, I tried some Mk 82 Snake eyes and AIRs, and got the following drops to partially work: Snake eye, AUTO, NT IN, Q 04, M 1, I 015, which I'd expect to release 4 weapons spaced over a 600ft distance, but only one releases. Snake eye, AUTO, NT IN, Q 03, M 1, I 005, released 3 weapons which did separate as expected over the much shorter distance. AIR, AUTO, NT IN, Q 04, M 1, I 009, expected 4 again, only released 2 weapons. Based on many attempts today, intervals greater than 150ft would also only release the first multiple. What am I doing wrong? Is something not supported or working as expected? Are there speed/altitude windows required to make certain interval drops work? Thanks, ripplest.trk Tacview-20230423-164015-DCS-trickerharriertraining.zip.acmi it seems the track file is completely broken so will have to take my word that the ACP is set as described.... Edited April 23, 2023 by Ich Dien
Ramsay Posted April 23, 2023 Posted April 23, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Ich Dien said: What am I doing wrong? Is something not supported or working as expected? Are there speed/altitude windows required to make certain interval drops work? From reports on Razbam's discord it seems rippling dumb bombs is problematic ATM i.e. it's likely a CCRP bug. Using CCIP instead of Auto/CCRP is said to work without issue i.e. use the uncage button to switch from GAUT to GCIP (tested using Quanty 4, Multi 1, 150ft spacing). Edited April 23, 2023 by Ramsay 1 i9 9900K @4.8GHz, 64GB DDR4, RTX4070 12GB, 1+2TB NVMe, 6+4TB HD, 4+1TB SSD, Winwing Orion 2 F-15EX Throttle + F-16EX Stick, TPR Pedals, TIR5, Win 11 Pro x64, Odyssey G93SC 5120X1440
AlphaJuliet Posted April 28, 2023 Posted April 28, 2023 Hey, We're aware about this issue, it's tracked internally, thanks for the report and track Cheers, A.J. 3
WurzelGummage Posted May 12, 2023 Posted May 12, 2023 I'm having a very similar issue. 6 x Mk82 at 800ft intervals in CCRP (Auto) and they all just drop at once. Any news on a fix for this? Ryzen 7 5800x, RTX 4070ti, 64gb RAM, Quest 2, Delanclip head tracking, Warthog throttle and stick with 100mm extension, TB Velocity One Pedals, 34" ultrawide 1440p monitor. Av8b, F18, M2000C, FC4, F5, A4, UH1, UH60
Ich Dien Posted May 13, 2023 Author Posted May 13, 2023 (edited) 21 hours ago, WurzelGummage said: I'm having a very similar issue. 6 x Mk82 at 800ft intervals in CCRP (Auto) and they all just drop at once. Any news on a fix for this? I assume the bug still exists as we haven't had a change log indicating any fixes to the contrary recently. However as a sanity check, please share your ACP settings, as if you're dropping all bombs in the same event, it sounds like there could be a settings issue. For example, if M >= Q, the interval setting is ignored, which would produce the behaviour you have described. Edited May 13, 2023 by Ich Dien
WurzelGummage Posted May 13, 2023 Posted May 13, 2023 so Q is 6, M is 4. I have one rack of 3 Mk82 and then one single mk82 on each wing. So in my mind I want 2 bombs off each rack of 3 and 1 off each of the other two. Have I interpreted the system correctly here? Ryzen 7 5800x, RTX 4070ti, 64gb RAM, Quest 2, Delanclip head tracking, Warthog throttle and stick with 100mm extension, TB Velocity One Pedals, 34" ultrawide 1440p monitor. Av8b, F18, M2000C, FC4, F5, A4, UH1, UH60
Ich Dien Posted May 13, 2023 Author Posted May 13, 2023 (edited) Yeah I think that's correct. The first event should be 4, it's not always sensible about which stations the 4 comes from though, but that's a conversation for a different day. You're saying you got 6 in the first event with interval set to 080 presumably? Have you got a track/tacview file? Edited May 13, 2023 by Ich Dien
WurzelGummage Posted May 13, 2023 Posted May 13, 2023 I think I got 4 instead of the 6 intended. 3rd drop on this tacview Tacview-20230512-120405-DCS-CA BSA 3 Auto - Unlimited.zip.acmi Ryzen 7 5800x, RTX 4070ti, 64gb RAM, Quest 2, Delanclip head tracking, Warthog throttle and stick with 100mm extension, TB Velocity One Pedals, 34" ultrawide 1440p monitor. Av8b, F18, M2000C, FC4, F5, A4, UH1, UH60
Ich Dien Posted May 13, 2023 Author Posted May 13, 2023 (edited) Yes I count 2, 4, 4, 4, 6. So it's probably certain there is at couple drops in there that aren't working as expected. AJ said above it's on the list, so hopefully they can use the info if they haven't already got an RCA. Edited May 13, 2023 by Ich Dien
shinobi61 Posted July 10, 2023 Posted July 10, 2023 Is this still bugged? im having the same issue as the OP today
AlphaJuliet Posted July 24, 2023 Posted July 24, 2023 (edited) Yup, we know, working on it. Hum, I mean, We are aware of the issue and tracking it internally, this one should be resolved soon. Cheers, A.J. Edited July 24, 2023 by AlphaJuliet
Ramsay Posted August 18, 2023 Posted August 18, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, VGlusica said: Is this going to be fixed anytime soon? Unknown, the whole release logic got broken, Razbam had planned to divert/add dev resources (time?) to get it fixed but some internal issues got in the way. Their last status update was 15th August, so they are aware we are eager for a fix. https://discord.com/channels/536389125276827660/544227316801208375/1140917416088584224 Edited August 18, 2023 by Ramsay i9 9900K @4.8GHz, 64GB DDR4, RTX4070 12GB, 1+2TB NVMe, 6+4TB HD, 4+1TB SSD, Winwing Orion 2 F-15EX Throttle + F-16EX Stick, TPR Pedals, TIR5, Win 11 Pro x64, Odyssey G93SC 5120X1440
Recluse Posted September 4, 2023 Posted September 4, 2023 Thanks, I will add something to the mix which might be tied into the broken release logic: 2 x 3 Mk-82 QTY 2 Mult 2 CCIP Expected one salvo of 2 Mk.82 (one from each pylon) Got: 2 off of each Pylon for a total of 4. According to Chuck's Guide and the TACMAN, the QTY setting should be the TOTAL number of bombs dropped QTYMult.trk
RaisedByWolves Posted September 5, 2023 Posted September 5, 2023 On 8/18/2023 at 2:01 PM, VGlusica said: Is this going to be fixed anytime soon? 2 weeks 2
VGlusica Posted October 29, 2023 Posted October 29, 2023 It appears that this has still not been fixed. I've tested only in Multi Tread. AV8B Multi.trk
Aernov Posted October 29, 2023 Posted October 29, 2023 (edited) Confirmed. I just tried the same thing you got in your track and got the same result - only 2 bombs released with Q=4 M=1 I=80 as well. Looks like the problem occurs when same type of ordnance is to be released from different symmetrical pairs of stations in a sequence. But I did long ripples after the update with no problems... Edited October 29, 2023 by Aernov
VGlusica Posted October 29, 2023 Posted October 29, 2023 Do you mean ripples with longer intervals? I tried several different things with different ordinance with same results. I also tried higher and lower quantities. Thank you for trying it out.
VGlusica Posted October 30, 2023 Posted October 30, 2023 I had a chance to do a little more testing on this. I could not find any combination of settings that would drop more than one weapon at the time.
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