jakeman Posted February 12, 2009 Posted February 12, 2009 As stated in the topic I lost one engine flying around in the mountains. As the "well trained?" pilot I am, I jettisoned my externals an went in for an emergency landing. Fortunately I found a good spot and landed sort of safely on the ground. My question is now; what the hell happened? Never been so gentle flying this machine as this time. So after I landed I did something I do not think the russion army would have applauded me for. I tried to start the failed enginge and it worked...for a while...until I reached about 30 m(perfect timing). Then both struck out. There were never any fire or nothing. Bug or likely to happen? Could it have been ice? This was in the mountains, but in the lower parts where i guess the temp is a bit higher. Was never warned to turn on the de-icing/heating system. Sort of fun when these things occur though. Handling something unforeseen.
fox_111 Posted February 12, 2009 Posted February 12, 2009 Too high collective power for too long ignoring the warnings? Short on gas? Every time it happenned to me, I was shot at and hit. Or once, I ran out of fuel.
tdar Posted February 12, 2009 Posted February 12, 2009 same thing happened to me today on multiplayer. was hovering near a wingman who was near a ridge. he suddenly fell like a brick and smashed into the ridge. i hovered over to his crash site and suddenly i lost power in both engines, with all my screens blacking out with no warning. no explosion, no nothing. im pretty sure i had anti ice as well. no time to react and i had to eject :(
Weta43 Posted February 12, 2009 Posted February 12, 2009 As stated in the topic I lost one engine flying around in the mountains. It gets cold up there int he mountains... Did you have engine de-icing turned on? (hit once for dust, twice for ice) Cheers.
Slayer Posted February 12, 2009 Posted February 12, 2009 Definately sounds like an icing problem to me :) I asked this way back when the russian version was just out, icing is modeled so you want your switch for engines in anti ice and don't forget to turn on rotor anti-ice. Wait til you get lost in a snowstorm in the mountains lol...nothing like flying in a white out. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] System Specs Intel I7-3930K, Asrock EXTREME9, EVGA TITAN, Mushkin Chronos SSD, 16GB G.SKILL Ripjaws Z series 2133, TM Warthog and MFD's, Saitek Proflight Combat pedals, TrackIR 5 + TrackClip PRO, Windows 7 x64, 3-Asus VS2248H-P monitors, Thermaltake Level 10 GT, Obutto cockpit
JDski Posted February 12, 2009 Posted February 12, 2009 I lost my left engine once at high alt, but I managed to get it restarted in flight. I was pretty surprized that it restarted. Never had anymore problems after that and completed my mission.
Feuerfalke Posted February 12, 2009 Posted February 12, 2009 You also have to watch for anti-dust-option. If you hover close to the ground, the engine sucks in the dust and eventually takes damage or chokes. But as long as there is no log in MP and no "kill-messages", it's difficult to tell, especially if you know there are enemies in the area. :( MSI X670E Gaming Plus | AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D | 64 GB DDR4 | AMD RX 6900 XT | LG 55" @ 4K | Cougar 1000 W | CreativeX G6 | TIR5 | CH HOTAS (with BU0836X-12 Bit) + Crosswind Pedals | Win11 64 HP | StreamDeck XL | 3x TM MFD
jakeman Posted February 12, 2009 Author Posted February 12, 2009 Thanks for all the answers, and I get smarter for each I read. I'm guessing towards an icing problem. I didnt get any warning though, but I guess it can happen. This happened in a pretty low valley, but i'm not sure what the baro-altmeter said. And im pretty sure there wasnt any enemys around at the moment.
eV1Te Posted February 12, 2009 Posted February 12, 2009 I've had similar problems before as well.. and the feature I'm missing in DCS which would answer many of these kind of questions is a detailed log over the last flight, which would show exactly what systems have been disabled and why...
Esac_mirmidon Posted February 12, 2009 Posted February 12, 2009 And what is the procedure to restart a stopped engine in mid air? " You must think in russian.." [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Windows 7 Home Premium-Intel 2500K OC 4.6-SSD Samsung EVO 860- MSI GTX 1080 - 16G RAM - 1920x1080 27´ Hotas Rhino X-55-MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals -Track IR 4
eV1Te Posted February 12, 2009 Posted February 12, 2009 And what is the procedure to restart a stopped engine in mid air? Start APU Start Engine :music_whistling:
ED Team Yo-Yo Posted February 12, 2009 ED Team Posted February 12, 2009 I've had similar problems before as well.. and the feature I'm missing in DCS which would answer many of these kind of questions is a detailed log over the last flight, which would show exactly what systems have been disabled and why... This log does exist. It is named TRACK. :) Ніщо так сильно не ранить мозок, як уламки скла від розбитих рожевих окулярів There is nothing so hurtful for the brain as splinters of broken rose-coloured spectacles. Ничто так сильно не ранит мозг, как осколки стекла от разбитых розовых очков (С) Me
eV1Te Posted February 12, 2009 Posted February 12, 2009 This log does exist. It is named TRACK. :) Is it possible to extract more information from the track file than just watching the track file..? For example can I somehow extract the information why the engine turned off (due to Ice or Dust etc.)... Or after an enemy hit's me and some systems turns off, I would like to afterward see exactly what that enemy hit on my Ka-50.. (generators, batteries weapon system etc. which overlap each other in some cases)?
Oezem Posted February 12, 2009 Posted February 12, 2009 Is there no Ekran log? Also not IRL like a black box type thing? ...jeej, my first post on this fab forum! :-)
Esac_mirmidon Posted February 12, 2009 Posted February 12, 2009 Only start APU and then the engine? No need to cut the engine lever, or the fuel pump or valves to prevent a engine fire? " You must think in russian.." [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Windows 7 Home Premium-Intel 2500K OC 4.6-SSD Samsung EVO 860- MSI GTX 1080 - 16G RAM - 1920x1080 27´ Hotas Rhino X-55-MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals -Track IR 4
eV1Te Posted February 12, 2009 Posted February 12, 2009 Only start APU and then the engine? No need to cut the engine lever, or the fuel pump or valves to prevent a engine fire? The quick answer is for DCS BS; No you don't need to cut anything... but the story is probably different in real life... :music_whistling: Unless someone know the correct procedure, we have to wait for the new manual which is supposed to contain checklists.
ED Team Yo-Yo Posted February 12, 2009 ED Team Posted February 12, 2009 The quick answer is for DCS BS; No you don't need to cut anything... but the story is probably different in real life... :music_whistling: Unless someone know the correct procedure, we have to wait for the new manual which is supposed to contain checklists. In RL midair engine start is prohibited. I think mostly regarding the risk of hidden damage the engine stopped due to. I heard about the repeated successful engine restarts when Mi-8 sufferted from engine icing. Either in RL or in DCS you can encountere wet spark-plugs so engine motoring (A-10 term !) can be useful. Ніщо так сильно не ранить мозок, як уламки скла від розбитих рожевих окулярів There is nothing so hurtful for the brain as splinters of broken rose-coloured spectacles. Ничто так сильно не ранит мозг, как осколки стекла от разбитых розовых очков (С) Me
ED Team Yo-Yo Posted February 12, 2009 ED Team Posted February 12, 2009 The quick answer is for DCS BS; No you don't need to cut anything... but the story is probably different in real life... :music_whistling: Unless someone know the correct procedure, we have to wait for the new manual which is supposed to contain checklists. In RL midair engine start is prohibited. I think mostly regarding the risk of hidden damage the engine stopped due to. I heard about the repeated successful engine restarts when Mi-8 sufferted from engine icing. Either in RL or in DCS you can encountered wet spark-plugs so engine motoring (A-10 term !) can be useful. I don't mean it's necessary but if the engine does not start you have to motor it before the second trying. Or do not motor as there is non-zero probability of success. :) Ніщо так сильно не ранить мозок, як уламки скла від розбитих рожевих окулярів There is nothing so hurtful for the brain as splinters of broken rose-coloured spectacles. Ничто так сильно не ранит мозг, как осколки стекла от разбитых розовых очков (С) Me
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