Activate Trigger Event via keyboard

[AvgWhiteGuy]

Is it possible activate a Trigger Event thru a keyboard action? In other words can I set up some unassigned keyboard combination (LAlt-? & R-Ctrl-?) that will initialize a Trigger Event to do something as simple as Ex: 'Close Canopy', then 'Anti-Skid ON', then more using X:COCKPIT PERFORM CLICKABLE ACTION

Yes, I know there is a keyboard function(s) for this (it's just a simple example) but I'm thinking about a pseudo-script in ME Triggers that will do a series of actions in the cockpit at the press of a keyboard combo. 

As a follow-up...could I then activate the same Trigger Event via Voice Attack? Example: By assigning a VA action to words 'Let's GO' > KeyPress (LAlt-? & R-Ctrl-?) this could theoretically trigger the 2 events in my example above.

Yes, I know I can do this directly thru VA but I actually want to do a series of 5+ Cockpit actions and VA is not as friendly IMHO in this kind of pseudo-scripting for .

[Rudel_chw]

2 hours ago, AvgWhiteGuy said:

Is it possible activate a Trigger Event thru a keyboard action? In other words can I set up some unassigned keyboard combination (LAlt-? & R-Ctrl-?) that will initialize a Trigger Event to do something as simple as Ex: 'Close Canopy', then 'Anti-Skid ON', then more using X:COCKPIT PERFORM CLICKABLE ACTION

I have never done it, but I imagine that it should be doable if there is an unused cockpit control that does not actually do anything, like a non implemented circuit breaker or something like that.

 

2 hours ago, AvgWhiteGuy said:

As a follow-up...could I then activate the same Trigger Event via Voice Attack? 

no idea, as I have never used VA

 

[AvgWhiteGuy]

So a simple keystoke or combo cannot initiate an Event to Trigger?

If you wanted to 'Group Activate' a flight (not your flight) to perform an action like begin their launch & preplanned route from Carrier to point X at YOUR arbitrary command, could this be accomplished?

If you wanted to spawn or activate a flight of enemy AI at YOUR arbitrary command will, can that be done?

If I found a 'unused cockpit control' how do I set a Trigger to test it's current state or Trigger an Event automatically on a change of state value. I'm looking at ME>Triggers> Conditions > X:Cockpit Parm Value Equal to but not sure how to test the change with a simple 'Sound to Unit' in response

 

Edited July 22, 2023 by AvgWhiteGuy

[Rudel_chw]

1 hour ago, AvgWhiteGuy said:

So a simple keystoke or combo cannot initiate an Event to Trigger?

 

not that I know of.

 

1 hour ago, AvgWhiteGuy said:

If I found a 'unused cockpit control' how do I set a Trigger to test it's current state or Trigger an Event automatically on a change of state value. I'm looking at ME>Triggers> Conditions > X:Cockpit Parm Value Equal to but not sure how to test the change with a simple 'Sound to Unit' in response

I would try to use the "X: START LISTEN COMMAND" trigger action.

[Exorcet]

Are the radio item add triggers not an option? You can add custom commands to F10 radio, they are basically exactly what you want except they don't have a keyboard shortcut.

 

Edited July 22, 2023 by Exorcet

[AvgWhiteGuy]

@Rudel_chw....I have an unused cockpit switch and have setup a series of Triggers as you suggested to do a basic WSO Startup procedure using:

X:COCKPIT PERFORM CLICKABLE ACTION & X: START LISTEN COMMAND ...so far works like a charm

I'm really not familiar enough with this aircraft and WSO but think I got enough started in the WSO seat to takeoff without hopping back & forth..

The only piece missing now is the WSO - Left Panel - ICS > Auto, (which may not be addressable at this time via keybind or trigger device). 

It would be really nice if this could be somehow copy/pasted or 'templated' to another mission. I think that's part of what you were referring to in another ME Wishlist post the other day.

Thank you very much for your insights, suggestions and help...I've learned a lot from your responses.

Edited July 26, 2023 by AvgWhiteGuy

[Rudel_chw]

5 hours ago, AvgWhiteGuy said:

@Rudel_chw....I have an unused cockpit switch and have setup a series of Triggers as you suggested to do a basic WSO Startup procedure using:

X:COCKPIT PERFORM CLICKABLE ACTION & X: START LISTEN COMMAND ...so far works like a charm

 

Hi,

Glad you got it working

 

5 hours ago, AvgWhiteGuy said:

The only piece missing now is the WSO - Left Panel - ICS > Auto, (which may not be addressable at this time via keybind or trigger device). 

 

You refer to the MIC switch? ... it can be moved with the X:COCKPIT PERFORM CLICKABLE ACTION trigger, its device is 13, command 3427, and the AUTO value is 0.5 ... however, the trigger only works if you are on the rear cockpit, so you must previously seat back with X:SET COMMAND 1602, then do the MIC trigger and then move to the pilot seat with a second 1602 command, like this:

 

 

The action is so fast that the cockpit switching cant be seen, like this:

 

 

5 hours ago, AvgWhiteGuy said:

It would be really nice if this could be somehow copy/pasted or 'templated' to another mission. I think that's part of what you were referring to in another ME Wishlist post the other day.

 

Yes, I'd love to be able to build a template containing the F-15E with the cockpit already set like I want ... but in my opinion just a copy/paste of triggers wouldnt be enough, as most triggers refer to trigger zones or to units, that's why expanding the Static templates concepts seems to me like a more useful approach.

Best regards,

 

 

[AvgWhiteGuy]

Negative on MIC WSO panel, my problem is ICS > (Stby-Auto-Man). I think it should be set to Auto at Startup but not sure.

Here are the WSO devices I'm activating at WSO Startup, only RED line is not successful. The current position of them in the images are AFTER my Triggers. The 4 displays are also on.

I'm using the NUCLEAR option!!!!! since it ain't used elsewhere that I know of. Simple MIZ attached, and appreciate any comments, suggestions, and critique

1) Start in normal Front Seat and Trigger pops open the Nuke Switch Cover after 10s (just for testing). 

2) ARM the Nuke Switch, followed by a temp Tone and Msg (just for testing), then the BackSeat gets sorted out as planned.

F-15E WSO Setup Caucasus v1.miz

[Rudel_chw]

2 hours ago, AvgWhiteGuy said:

Negative on MIC WSO panel, my problem is ICS > (Stby-Auto-Man). I think it should be set to Auto at Startup but not sure.

 

Ahh .. sorry for the misunderstanding .. The ICS should respond to the command 3933 of device 59, but for some reason it does not work with the X:COCKPIT PERFORM CLICKABLE ACTION trigger .. I can control the nearby switches, like set ICS to COMBAT, but the ICS Mode does not work ...

 

[Sedlo]

Keep in mind a lot of these clickable actions / arguments do not play well in multiplayer   

[Rudel_chw]

10 minutes ago, Sedlo said:

Keep in mind a lot of these clickable actions / arguments do not play well in multiplayer   

 

Yes, one more reason to enjoy my single-player way of simming

 

 

[Sedlo]

16 minutes ago, Rudel_chw said:

 

Yes, one more reason to enjoy my single-player way of simming

 

 

You and me both!

[AvgWhiteGuy]

@Sedlo...I started this little project off after reading VR folks complain about not having a WSO Startup and the challenges of swapping seats via keyboard WITH VR headsets on. I'm also too old & lazy to swap seats myself. 

Initially I was planning to use VA but soon after my initial success I realized some folks don't use that either. I don't know how to write a 'batch routine', in DCS-speak, or how to implement but @Rudel_chw  gave me the clue of 'triggers' which I explored to come to this ending.

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Edited July 27, 2023 by AvgWhiteGuy

[Sedlo]

Love it!   Reminds me of the A-Team for some reason

[MAXsenna]

OP, if I understand correctly what you want. Making some sort of WSO, this should be perfectly doable with VoiceAttack and DCS-BIOS. Maybe we'll be able to even implement it in. VAICOM.

Cheers!

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[AvgWhiteGuy]

@MAXsenna     I did with VA initially but requires a bunch of keybinds, and then I used a Shared Profiles to keep it separate it from Viacom DCS profile . Worked fine except some mentioned they didn't use VA so I went off on this route. I honestly don't know sh#t about 'DCS-BIOS' but willing to dive in to learn some more if you want to point me in that direction.

Edited July 27, 2023 by AvgWhiteGuy

[MAXsenna]

@MAXsennaI did with VA initially but requires a bunch of keybinds, and then I used a Shared Profile to keep it separate it from Viacom DCS profile . Worked fine except some mentioned they didn't use VA so I went off on this route. I honestly don't know sh#t about 'DCS-BIOS' but willing to dive in to learn some more if you want to point me in that direction.

VAICOM doesn't use VA? Or did I misunderstand you?
In any case. Look up Bailey's L-39 profile, where he uses DCS-BIOS with VoiceAttack.
I'm exploring this option myself.
Beware that the fork for Saitek/Logitech panels are the latest version.
It probably needs to be updated for the F-15E come to think of it.
Will keep you posted if it will be a possibility for VAICOM, which would be the best solution of keybinds doesn't do the trick.

Cheers!

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[AvgWhiteGuy]

VAICOM doesn't use VA?  I thought VAICOM kind of resides inside or on top of VA, now I'm curious what else I've been missing, and maybe why my COMS can be a mess sometimes. I use a VAICOM profile inside VA. Is this 'old school' sh#t I've missed somewhere along the journey?

[MAXsenna]

VAICOM doesn't use VA?  I thought VAICOM kind of resides inside or on top of VA, now I'm curious what else I've been missing, and maybe why my COMS can be a mess sometimes. I use a VAICOM profile inside VA. Is this 'old school' sh#t I've missed somewhere along the journey?

Haha! No, that was a question. I see what you meant now. I did misunderstand you.
No problem!

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[AvgWhiteGuy]

Cool brother, and if we can co-op on stuff for the 'community' I'm thrilled to share as I have seen you do throughout the various forums. 

[MAXsenna]

Cool brother, and if we can co-op on stuff for the 'community' I'm thrilled to share as I have seen you do throughout the various forums. 

Awesome!

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[AvgWhiteGuy]

15 hours ago, Sedlo said:

Love it!   Reminds me of the A-Team for some reason

My WSO, can you guess why I prefer doing the backseat startup myself...besides the 35kgs of 'bling'? Does not take instructions or procedures well

 

[Sedlo]

4 hours ago, AvgWhiteGuy said:

My WSO, can you guess why I prefer doing the backseat startup myself...besides the 35kgs of 'bling'? Does not take instructions or procedures well

 

Well, considering you’d have to drug him just to get him on a plane