CE_Mikemonster Posted March 4, 2009 Posted March 4, 2009 lmao Too many cowboys. Not enough indians. GO APE SH*T
hitman Posted March 4, 2009 Posted March 4, 2009 And there was this one time, in boot camp, when I stuck a rifle up
SUBS17 Posted March 4, 2009 Posted March 4, 2009 Not sure where you came up with that ... unless you're flying some sort of stealth ka-50 or 64, 'cause those rotors ... pingpingping. And that's assuming you make it as fasr as that base, too. ;) I'm talking from experience with LB2 in MP yeah if the gunship manages to slip past any CAP and find your airbase its turkey shoot. Also the ground effect masks the helicopter if he flys low enough in Lockon if DCS has the same radar modelling then the same is possible. If the A-10s have no AWACs then its a visual fight who ever sees who first has the advantage. [sIGPIC] [/sIGPIC]
GGTharos Posted March 4, 2009 Posted March 4, 2009 The same LB2 where you're set up to have a chance against fighters? The same LB2 where you can fly across the map 10 times on one tank of fuel? ;) Further: DCS will have much more advanced radar modeling. I can see aircraft on their landing roll on radar - what 'ground effect masking'? And, if its visual, the A-10C has the best chances: IIR Pod search FTW. I'm talking from experience with LB2 in MP yeah if the gunship manages to slip past any CAP and find your airbase its turkey shoot. Also the ground effect masks the helicopter if he flys low enough in Lockon if DCS has the same radar modelling then the same is possible. If the A-10s have no AWACs then its a visual fight who ever sees who first has the advantage. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
CE_Mikemonster Posted March 4, 2009 Posted March 4, 2009 LMAO Too many cowboys. Not enough indians. GO APE SH*T
159th_Viper Posted March 4, 2009 Posted March 4, 2009 LMAO You gotta stop chuckling, M8 - at the rate you're goin', you gonna crack a Rib! :megalol: :D 2 Novice or Veteran looking for an alternative MP career? Click me to commence your Journey of Pillage and Plunder! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] '....And when I get to Heaven, to St Peter I will tell.... One more Soldier reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell......'
CE_Mikemonster Posted March 4, 2009 Posted March 4, 2009 Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa? http://www.itsatarp.com/ Too many cowboys. Not enough indians. GO APE SH*T
Vesperatus Posted March 4, 2009 Posted March 4, 2009 Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa? http://www.itsatarp.com/ O my .... My eyes. They bleed. I didn't want to cause that with my question ! Just blame me, the damn frog ! But HOLD ON : I can see aircraft on their landing roll on radar You are actually flying the A10 and i'm not. :doh:
GGTharos Posted March 4, 2009 Posted March 4, 2009 The A-10 has no radar. I'm talking about LO, since that was the comparison that was being made. The A-10C has a nice targeting pod though ;) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
CE_Mikemonster Posted March 5, 2009 Posted March 5, 2009 (edited) DCS: A-10 .... In A.D. 2101 War was beginning. GG_Tharos: What happen ? Kenan: Somebody set up us the bomb. CE_Mikemonster: We get signal. GG_Tharos: What ! CE_Mikemonster: Main screen turn on. GG_Tharos: It's you !! 159th_Viper: How are you gentlemen !! 159th_Viper: All your base are belong to us. 159th_Viper: You are on the way to destruction. GG_Tharos: What you say !! 159th_Viper: You have no chance to survive make your time. 159th_Viper: Ha ha ha ha .... CE_Mikemonster: Captain !! * GG_Tharos: Take off every 'ZIG'!! GG_Tharos: You know what you doing. GG_Tharos: Move 'ZIG'. GG_Tharos: For great justice. DCS: A-10 IT'S A TARP! Edited March 5, 2009 by CE_Mikemonster 1 Too many cowboys. Not enough indians. GO APE SH*T
159th_Viper Posted March 5, 2009 Posted March 5, 2009 :megalol: Now it's my turn to Bust a Gut.......:megalol: :megalol: Novice or Veteran looking for an alternative MP career? Click me to commence your Journey of Pillage and Plunder! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] '....And when I get to Heaven, to St Peter I will tell.... One more Soldier reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell......'
SUBS17 Posted March 5, 2009 Posted March 5, 2009 The same LB2 where you're set up to have a chance against fighters? The same LB2 where you can fly across the map 10 times on one tank of fuel? ;) Further: DCS will have much more advanced radar modeling. I can see aircraft on their landing roll on radar - what 'ground effect masking'? And, if its visual, the A-10C has the best chances: IIR Pod search FTW. With LB2 I'm refering to an incident where the guy I was flying against located the spawn point and camped there picking me off with the 30mm. And that could happen like I said if they located your base or managed to sneak there. With the A-10C in DCS you're still mostly using the eyeball to locate the helicopter with a pod you would have an advantage in the A-10 but thats so long as the AAA and SAMs are not present otherwise the pilot is going to have to be flying low. It'll be different when a faster more capable jet like an F-16 is modeled as they have the advantage of both radar and datalink. With radar it depends on the Block or type thats modeled the older generation radar you can lose tgts if they are low enough modern A/G radar though will pick up everything including a fence in A/G mode. And even then properly modeled radar won't detect aircraft hiding in deadground or behind trees.:music_whistling: [sIGPIC] [/sIGPIC]
Vesperatus Posted March 5, 2009 Posted March 5, 2009 Speaking of radar, once that is modeled, will it pick up my Ka-50 if I fly next to a BUS/Truck/Car ? Because that could also be used for cover, or a least to fool hog pilots while flying from town to town.
CE_Mikemonster Posted March 5, 2009 Posted March 5, 2009 ...or behind trees.:music_whistling: Spot the obvious error! Too many cowboys. Not enough indians. GO APE SH*T
GGTharos Posted March 5, 2009 Posted March 5, 2009 Why would it fool a radar? The rotors have a very specific signature ;) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
GGTharos Posted March 5, 2009 Posted March 5, 2009 Um, okay. Let me put it this way ... an AIR TO AIR radar will pick up spinning rotors even if you're sitting on the ground. You'd have to go pretty far back to not have such a radar available. As for hiding behind 'deadground' ... that's what altitude is for ;) And the A-10C -does- sport a datalink ... and don't knock the pod, high or low its a big advantage. With LB2 I'm refering to an incident where the guy I was flying against located the spawn point and camped there picking me off with the 30mm. And that could happen like I said if they located your base or managed to sneak there. With the A-10C in DCS you're still mostly using the eyeball to locate the helicopter with a pod you would have an advantage in the A-10 but thats so long as the AAA and SAMs are not present otherwise the pilot is going to have to be flying low. It'll be different when a faster more capable jet like an F-16 is modeled as they have the advantage of both radar and datalink. With radar it depends on the Block or type thats modeled the older generation radar you can lose tgts if they are low enough modern A/G radar though will pick up everything including a fence in A/G mode. And even then properly modeled radar won't detect aircraft hiding in deadground or behind trees.:music_whistling: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
MBot Posted March 5, 2009 Posted March 5, 2009 I am sceptical regarding the use of the FLIR as a search device in an air-air situation, especially when flying low. I can't remember the ATFLIR to be very useful in air-air in Jane's F/A-18 (except for IDing radar targets). I would put my money on the Mk.1 eyeball.
CE_Mikemonster Posted March 5, 2009 Posted March 5, 2009 Out of interest, what sort of HMS does the A-10C have and how 'good' is it? Too many cowboys. Not enough indians. GO APE SH*T
GGTharos Posted March 5, 2009 Posted March 5, 2009 There's no HMS. There a datalink. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
CE_Mikemonster Posted March 5, 2009 Posted March 5, 2009 A-10 doesn't have a helmet mounted sight? Too many cowboys. Not enough indians. GO APE SH*T
hitman Posted March 5, 2009 Posted March 5, 2009 A-10 doesn't have a helmet mounted sight? Sure does...the Mk 1 Mod 0 eyeball in conjunction with Sniper pods/whatever.
SUBS17 Posted March 5, 2009 Posted March 5, 2009 I am sceptical regarding the use of the FLIR as a search device in an air-air situation, especially when flying low. I can't remember the ATFLIR to be very useful in air-air in Jane's F/A-18 (except for IDing radar targets). I would put my money on the Mk.1 eyeball. The ultimate is DAS EO which is on the F35, Flir is good for A/A for Id'ing aircraft from a distance. [sIGPIC] [/sIGPIC]
SUBS17 Posted March 5, 2009 Posted March 5, 2009 Um, okay. Let me put it this way ... an AIR TO AIR radar will pick up spinning rotors even if you're sitting on the ground. You'd have to go pretty far back to not have such a radar available. As for hiding behind 'deadground' ... that's what altitude is for ;) And the A-10C -does- sport a datalink ... and don't knock the pod, high or low its a big advantage. If you're sitting behind a building or hiding in a forest it probably won't pick it up although the pods TI would pick it up in a forest. [sIGPIC] [/sIGPIC]
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