solved My T Moongose CM3 Throttle buttons not being recognized by DCS

[Hammer1-1]

Thats in its powered on state. If you've had it plugged into your USB this whole time and it supplied power, theres your answer. I had a similar thing with my Reverb G2 stating that Ive about 1600 hours in SteamVR even though I dont even have 800 hours in the last 5 years of flying with ANY headset. If your LEDs are on, its on. I wouldnt have any idea how they would find that information out though unless its something they can see in its firmware?

Edited October 5, 2023 by Hammer1-1

[TMP95]

1 hour ago, Hammer1-1 said:

Thats in its powered on state. If you've had it plugged into your USB this whole time and it supplied power, theres your answer. I had a similar thing with my Reverb G2 stating that Ive about 1600 hours in SteamVR even though I dont even have 800 hours in the last 5 years of flying with ANY headset. If your LEDs are on, its on. I wouldnt have any idea how they would find that information out though unless its something they can see in its firmware?

 

Im sure thats likely true..,  its just that's not what they originally said. They said it had 496 sim / gaming used hours on it.

 

Until I said impossible.  They replied were your kids (which I don't have) on it.

Only once I suggested that as a possibility (was their firmware counting hours computer has been on.....or was i sold used throttle as new) did they want subject changed....that throttle perhaps  wasn't used 496 hours and my original honest observation of less than 200 hours use was accurate (basically a weeks worth of use)  ....after they are ones that tried to bring it up to me..

 

But I agree with you. That's most obviously it. It was just odd for virpil to suggest I was lying about usage if that is easily a misconstrued reading (that they are more aware of then anybody). Least to a customer who's spent over $1500 with them....for a premium product to go down with less than at max 20 days of being on (496 hours)

Edited October 5, 2023 by TMP95

[Tom Kazansky]

@TMP95

Are you on Steam or standalone DCS?

Steam logs every minute from the start of the software.

The Logbook of DCS only tracks from the moment you are airborne till you touch down / crash.

Cold starts, training on the ground, mission editor, loading, flights before software crashes and multiplayer time* are not logged.

(*don't know if this is still the case)

I play DCS only in VR and when in VR, I play 99% DCS, but my in game Logbook (since I've bought my VR headset) is far ftom the logged SteamVR time. Really far.

(edit: for the sake of completeness, the game logs time scale accelerated time, as game time.  e.g. 10 minutes airborne in 4x scale means 40 min in the logbook.)

edit2: please don't get me wrong, It is not that I don't trust your statement, but I definitely don't trust the logbook when it comes to DCS software time. It's not made for that.

 

Edited October 5, 2023 by Tom Kazansky

[Hammer1-1]

1 hour ago, TMP95 said:

Im sure thats likely true..,  its just that's not what they originally said. They said it had 496 sim / gaming used hours on it

 

Unless they're using a key logger, I highly doubt they have a way of knowing how much gaming its gone through. If they are using a key logger, then umm...thats a huge security risk.

[TMP95]

On 10/5/2023 at 1:09 AM, Tom Kazansky said:

@TMP95

Are you on Steam or standalone DCS?

Steam logs every minute from the start of the software.

The Logbook of DCS only tracks from the moment you are airborne till you touch down / crash.

Cold starts, training on the ground, mission editor, loading, flights before software crashes and multiplayer time* are not logged.

(*don't know if this is still the case)

I play DCS only in VR and when in VR, I play 99% DCS, but my in game Logbook (since I've bought my VR headset) is far ftom the logged SteamVR time. Really far.

(edit: for the sake of completeness, the game logs time scale accelerated time, as game time.  e.g. 10 minutes airborne in 4x scale means 40 min in the logbook.)

edit2: please don't get me wrong, It is not that I don't trust your statement, but I definitely don't trust the logbook when it comes to DCS software time. It's not made for that.

 

 

I use Steam. 

 

Thanks for info

I also want to reiterate I would buy from virpil again in heartbeat. The products working are fabulous 

On 10/5/2023 at 2:20 AM, Hammer1-1 said:

Unless they're using a key logger, I highly doubt they have a way of knowing how much gaming its gone through. If they are using a key logger, then umm...thats a huge security risk.

They told me out of blue they could tell my throttle had 496 hours used. I suspect it's 496 hours turned on.

Edited October 7, 2023 by TMP95

[Tom Kazansky]

1 hour ago, TMP95 said:

I use Steam. 

 

Thanks for info

I also want to reiterate I would but from virpil again in heartbeat. The products working are fabulous 

They told me out of blue they could tell my throttle had 496 hours used. I suspect it's 496 hours turned on.

Thanks again, that's interesting news to me. I wish I could read those hours of use from my devices myself. Even more from those that I've replaced in my past.

Edited October 6, 2023 by Tom Kazansky

[TMP95]

Cables came. Did repair myself.  Went rather smooth, throttle back working 100%!

[Tom Kazansky]

1 hour ago, TMP95 said:

Cables came. Did repair myself.  Went rather smooth, throttle back working 100%!