new FM???

[Raven434th]

Just flew the apache for 40 mins...flew around trees ,power lines and towers, came to a hover, sped up tp 90 ,came to hover ... rince and repeat numerous times.....and only touched the collective twice. At takeoff and landing. This seems very odd to me.

[Amarok_73]

And for me, finally I am able to use the stabilization modes fully! Even still a bit too sensitive altitude hold is not a big deal!
I can fly hands-off focused on avionics maintenance. What a relief! I was waiting for this feeling since last Christmas!
Whatever is done in the future regarding the flight model, I hope there will be some option to adjust the stabilization parameters to at least achieve the current effect if necessary.

[HE5405]

I found the opposite, felt she was more prone to rolling under SAS than previously, had to adjust a lot more

[pii]

I didn't see anything about FM but I found her to be handling a hell of a lot better and is now much more controllable when low and slow. The auto-hover is hmmm not so much and can't hold the bird steady, I can get it to hold the heading and go hands-off now so that's good.

The only other thing I checked out was the cool landing with grass and dust being kicked up animation, nice! Overall  A big thumbs up from me.

[Poptart]

The hover hold seems to be more tolerant of motion greater than 4kph at high altitude but it oscillates a lot. At low altitude it is a mess. Couldn't really feel much change in the FM. 

[travissgrey]

8 ore fa, pii ha scritto:

I didn't see anything about FM but I found her to be handling a hell of a lot better and is now much more controllable when low and slow. The auto-hover is hmmm not so much and can't hold the bird steady, I can get it to hold the heading and go hands-off now so that's good.

The only other thing I checked out was the cool landing with grass and dust being kicked up animation, nice! Overall  A big thumbs up from me.

This. The Ah64 right now is performing flawlessly. Flying it is a real joy. Love this update so far

[BigBorner]

I also had the feeling it got way more stable and easy to fly. 
 

Considering I could fly in the past in an empty singleplayer map MUCH better then in MP - might it be that it just got easier as game runs better now? 

[Mystic-J]

I do feel as well that the AH64 is much more stable to fly in 2.9.

[lee1hy]

Now, SCAS (blue bar in CTRL+ENTER something) frequently intervenes in the tail rotor, making it more stable. There is a need to check whether this is game balance or logic that IRL Apache's DCS development team missed.

Hovering is now possible without ATT mode.

 

 

Edited October 26, 2023 by lee1hy

[HungryCoyote]

For some reason, today I can take off, hover and land without ever touching the rudder. No trim or attitude hold. Only collective and cyclic inputs. Never seen this before in the Apache.

[Raptor9]

On 10/26/2023 at 6:25 AM, lee1hy said:

Now, SCAS (blue bar in CTRL+ENTER something) frequently intervenes in the tail rotor, making it more stable. There is a need to check whether this is game balance or logic that IRL Apache's DCS development team missed.

This indicates that Heading Hold is engaged, which has been there since the initial release of Early Access. The only thing that was added a few months ago was the blue "hold mode" indicators on the Control Indicator overlay so that one can see when the hold modes are actually engaged with the flight control servos.

This reflects the accurate behavior of the AH-64D's Heading Hold, which is always enabled any time the aircraft is not weight-on-wheels. The specific logic of it is described within the Flight Management Computer section of the DCS: AH-64D Early Access Guide.

In the 2.9 update last week, the Heading Hold "breakout" values were implemented for when Attitude Hold is also engaged, so that the Heading Hold can still be overridden with the appropriate magnitude of pedal input. Prior to 2.9, the Heading Hold "breakout" values were only present if Attitude Hold was disengaged.

[Chic]

On 10/27/2023 at 12:59 PM, Raptor9 said:

In the 2.9 update last week, the Heading Hold "breakout" values were implemented for when Attitude Hold is also engaged, so that the Heading Hold can still be overridden with the appropriate magnitude of pedal input. Prior to 2.9, the Heading Hold "breakout" values were only present if Attitude Hold was disengaged.

Yah, very nice!

[Nereid]

On 10/26/2023 at 1:25 PM, lee1hy said:

Hovering is now possible without ATT mode.

 

Unfortunately ATT mode seems to be broken now. I doesn't work for me at all before and after the last patch. But this is another topic.

[pii]

23 hours ago, Nereid said:

Unfortunately ATT mode seems to be broken now. I doesn't work for me at all before and after the last patch. But this is another topic.

working good here

[Alexfly65]

Revamp this old discussion because after the last DCS update (2.9.5.55300) and the new FCR zoom and link features added, the AH-64 look more stable, expecially in the hover. So I wonder if also the FM got updated. Someone else has my same feeling about it?

Edited May 29, 2024 by Alexfly65

[Raptor9]

No updates to the flight model, the SCAS, or the hold modes have occurred. The last update was a temporary fix to the hold modes in December.