aplaceinthesky Posted November 1, 2023 Posted November 1, 2023 Hello, jester appear transparent in the Jester menu, there is no pilot there. I have a XT 6800 RX and a ryzen 7 5800x it happens in both multi thread and in normal DCS 1
Silhou Posted November 1, 2023 Posted November 1, 2023 Hey @aplaceinthesky! Could I kindly ask you to provide the screenshot of the issue, please?
Bealdor Posted November 2, 2023 Posted November 2, 2023 (edited) I'm having exactly the same issue here on Open Beta MT version. This isn't new to DCS 2.9 though. I already experienced it earlier. Will perform a DCS repair tonight and report back if that fixes it. Edited November 2, 2023 by Bealdor
Bealdor Posted November 2, 2023 Posted November 2, 2023 OK I ran a repair for DCS and it didn't help unfortunately. I could narrow it down to the MT version though. Jester shows up fine for me when running DCS in ST.
aplaceinthesky Posted November 2, 2023 Author Posted November 2, 2023 Bealdor I have experienced it too before the funny thing is that it comes and go, there was many times the issue didn't show up so it's just weird
Silhou Posted November 3, 2023 Posted November 3, 2023 Thank you for your report. I tracked in internally for further investigation. 2
dorianR666 Posted November 4, 2023 Posted November 4, 2023 i have it too its an old bug CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1600X GPU: AMD RX 580
JetCat Posted April 27, 2024 Posted April 27, 2024 Yes I can confirm this is a Steam Multithreading Preview bug. I have tested it in the Steam version, with MT on the AI menu is not showing Jester and Pilot. Should I notify HeatBlur about this little visual glitch that appears with the newest DCS feature?
Lukas2438 Posted September 7, 2024 Posted September 7, 2024 with the recently announced discontinuation of single threaded DCS this issue will continue to exist, or are there any news for an upcoming fix prior to ST cancellation?
stenji Posted October 8, 2024 Posted October 8, 2024 On 9/1/2024 at 8:17 AM, Alpiinoo said: Still having this issue. With MT Same here, any news on this bug? My Jester is still not present in the AI wheel window... 1
Shaman Posted February 19 Posted February 19 bump, bug is still present in Feb 2025... I just turned it off completely. 51PVO Founding member (DEC2007-) 100KIAP Founding member (DEC2018-) :: Shaman aka [100☭] Shamansky tail# 44 or 444 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 100KIAP Regiment Early Warning & Control officer
Zabuzard Posted February 19 Posted February 19 bump, bug is still present in Feb 2025... I just turned it off completely.This bug is due to how MT changed rendering order on the DCS engine for this particular setup.It will not be fixable easily and because we plan on replacing the UI with the new UI (see Phantom) for the long term anyways, we likely will not dump hours into trying to bend this back to working. 3
OLD CROW Posted March 27 Posted March 27 On 2/19/2025 at 11:51 PM, Zabuzard said: This bug is due to how MT changed rendering order on the DCS engine for this particular setup. It will not be fixable easily and because we plan on replacing the UI with the new UI (see Phantom) for the long term anyways, we likely will not dump hours into trying to bend this back to working. Alright, I’m on board with the idea. But no one on the team can waste time on: 1- Informing customers about an ETA for the implementation of Jester’s new interface (see Phampton) and, if that’s not possible... 2- Spending several hours of work filling the space that should be occupied by the back of the cockpit and Jester with some generic static image, or even a customizable one—like a pin-up, my dog's face, etc. I think after one year of MT implementation should be enough for finding an interim solution, don't you? A simple Human being's Passion [YOUTUBE] [/YOUTUBE]
Wingmate Posted March 27 Posted March 27 We still see the rear cockpit if I am not mistaken, why waste time putting a static image there as an interim solution when it will get replaced and everything still works? (apart from seeing jester)
OLD CROW Posted March 28 Posted March 28 (edited) 14 hours ago, Wingmate said: We still see the rear cockpit if I am not mistaken, why waste time putting a static image there as an interim solution when it will get replaced and everything still works? (apart from seeing jester) Easy, cause they're not going to implement their definitive solution tomorrow... neither in this year. I'm becoming too old (also too crow) to believe in miracles. Sure it will be fix but, we will have to wait 15 days at least. Also, Yes you're mistaken... you can only see air (or a gap) where it should have been the rear cockpit and/or Jester. An static customizable space is more elegant than what we had have all this time IMAO Edited March 28 by OLD CROW A simple Human being's Passion [YOUTUBE] [/YOUTUBE]
Zabuzard Posted March 28 Posted March 28 These "quick fixes" you have in mind all cost a full work day to code. Another day to test and possibly another for a round of bug fixes. And don't forget the invisible cost of someone having to context switch and probably also to study "foreign code", considering that the people who wrote this snippet arent around anymore.Not here to argue against your idea, but its not "just a quick thing" to do between other tasks during lunch break or similar.Its not a bad idea, not at all, but rather low on the prio list that is packed with other more crucial things already.Either case, thank you for your suggestion. It will be considered, cheers. 1
MAXsenna Posted March 28 Posted March 28 We all have different perspectives and needs. I never knew what was supposed to be there at all. I had to scroll up the thread to see. I guess that's one advantage of using VAICOM. One doesn't see the wheel at all. Sent from my SM-A536B using Tapatalk
OLD CROW Posted March 28 Posted March 28 Don't get me wrong, but if you look at when the first report in this thread was made, it was over a year ago (a year and four months, to be exact). If this issue had been added to the work list back then, we wouldn't have any complaints today. As you rightly said, the operator would have spent a day programming, another day testing, and maybe another fixing any resulting issues—long ago. Instead, after ignoring some customers' complaints, we now get a vague response from you. I know perfectly well that this isn't a priority, and I'd bet an entire paycheck that it never was. But since your response has been quite diplomatic (if not effective), the least you could do is provide an ETA for the implementation of Jester 2.0 for the F-14. It's as simple as that. You seem to contradict yourself when you suggest that implementing an advanced AI system like Jester 2.0 is easier than simply placing a static patch where there used to be a real-time animation, which is now just an empty space. A suggestion: you don't need to spend three days giving vague answers—use those three days to work some magic and fix the issues with your product. I'm just throwing out possible suggestions in case they help in a brainstorming session. But I speak from the ignorance of a consumer, not as a Heatblur employee or insider. However, thanks to that ignorance, I put my money into your product so you can make a business out of it—because if I weren't ignorant, I'd save my money and program my own mod. Anyway, thanks for sending my suggestions straight to the bottom of the pit. Very kind of you to waste your time responding instead of actually programming—perhaps to put the Heatblur logo right in the middle of the target, so everyone knows who proudly made this product. 3 hours ago, MAXsenna said: perspectives and needs. The PERSPECTIVE in your VR's has been lost: the gap in the middle of the Jester's roulete 100% should match with the sweet point of you googles, otherwise you prior NEED should buy a new ones. I'm just suggesting, just suggesting but you know where to throw my suggestions: same place as the bug report. A simple Human being's Passion [YOUTUBE] [/YOUTUBE]
MAXsenna Posted March 28 Posted March 28 49 minutes ago, OLD CROW said: The PERSPECTIVE in your VR's has been lost: the gap in the middle of the Jester's roulete 100% should match with the sweet point of you googles, otherwise you prior NEED should buy a new ones. I'm just suggesting, just suggesting but you know where to throw my suggestions: same place as the bug report. Dude, it wasn't a stab at you, I was making a joke directed at myself for not understanding the issue, because I never open the Jester wheel, I didn't see it at first. Cheers!
OLD CROW Posted March 28 Posted March 28 After more than 13,700 post and you hadn't learned to do a reading conprehension before writting anything? Well "Amigo", let's draw a foolish veil over this. I'll pretend that you're telling the truth, and you'll pretend that I didn't get your joke and that we're really "friends." Deal? 40 minutes ago, AndyJWest said: What an absurd thing to get worked up over... Indeed it is, but this is a not resolved bug report... not a poll A simple Human being's Passion [YOUTUBE] [/YOUTUBE]
MAXsenna Posted March 28 Posted March 28 1 hour ago, OLD CROW said: After more than 13,700 post and you hadn't learned to do a reading conprehension before writting anything? I'll blame it on Mister Newman. My English teacher. 1 hour ago, OLD CROW said: Well "Amigo", let's draw a foolish veil over this. I'll pretend that you're telling the truth, and you'll pretend that I didn't get your joke and that we're really "friends." Deal? For sure! I you haven't already, you might wanna try out VAICOM, a free community driven plugin for VoiceAttack, that let's you speak with Jester.
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