How to increase volume on "F14 severe airframe stress"

[Top Jockey]

Hello, 

Still can't notice the sound: "F14 severe airframe stress" while on gamming - absolutelly nothing, I know my PC sound set is an old piece of crap however ... but i really can't hear anything.

I already know where the file is located, so can anyone share some advice on easiest way to edit this file in order to increase the volume a little bit ?

Thank you.

Edited November 15, 2023 by Top Jockey
spelling correction

[FR4GGL3]

Is this the moment when it creaks like Blackbeards old Pirate Ship? I've heared it a few times by pulling hard in order to not hit the ground.

I use "hearing like in the helmet" (or something like this). Maybe this helps. If you edit Files, they will probably get overwritten by the next update. Watch out if you download Sound Editors there are well known ones, that have false downloads with trojans in it.

Edited November 15, 2023 by FR4GGL3

[Top Jockey]

1 hour ago, FR4GGL3 said:

Is this the moment when it creaks like Blackbeards old Pirate Ship? I've heared it a few times by pulling hard in order to not hit the ground.

I use "hearing like in the helmet" (or something like this). Maybe this helps. If you edit Files, they will probably get overwritten by the next update. Watch out if you download Sound Editors there are well known ones, that have false downloads with trojans in it.

 

 

Hello,

Yeah probably that is one of the situations in which you might hear it, as nowadays I can't hear it at all.
Don't really know if it's my old sound system or what.

Last year, I only managed to hear it in game but VERY, VERY tenuously.

At the time @draconus told me at which folder the file was, I played it off-game with WIndows Media Player so I could 'identify' it by hearing.
And then managed to hear it a few times in-game (again, last year or so), with engines idle, pulling hard Gs ... but always at a very weak and distant volume.

The reason I again ask for it - is because of the immersion factor, as in another very old F-14 sim (TOPGUN: Fire at Will) the airframe stress noise was clearly perceptible, it was also that familiar metal screech.

It wouldn't bother me at all to copy / paste the edited file each time I updated - immersion is my priority.

Other than that, yes I have no experience using sound editing programs, and freeware can be 'doubtful' ...

 

 

[draconus]

It's unrealistic to hear such sounds flying the Tomcat with helmet on, so I refuse to help you in that case. However if you wanted to edit the other sounds, ie. to silence the cockpit switches or make ECS way louder, you can download Audacity:

https://www.audacityteam.org/

You'll probably also need this:

https://support.audacityteam.org/basics/installing-ffmpeg

Import the audio files, highlight the whole waves, go effects > volume > add/subtract a few dB or more, apply, then export the files as separate ogg files

Edited November 15, 2023 by draconus

[Top Jockey]

13 minutes ago, draconus said:

It's unrealistic to hear such sounds flying the Tomcat with helmet on, so I refuse to help you in that case. However if you wanted to edit the other sounds, ie. to silence the cockpit switches or make ECS way louder, you can download Audacity:

https://www.audacityteam.org/

You'll probably also need this:

https://support.audacityteam.org/basics/installing-ffmpeg

Import the audio files, highlight the whole waves, go effects > volume > add/subtract a few dB or more, apply, then export the files as separate ogg files

 

 

Hello draconus,

Thank you for your help ! ... and you really have the ability to get me confused :

1. Your helping me already - i suppose with the procedures you share it will also be possible to increase this sound, thank you.

2. Well, is the F-14 airframe stress sound / noise supposed to be heard by the crew inside the cockpit or not ?
- at another older thread you said it can be heard from the cockpit ;
- why would Heatblur bother to replicate that sound, if it wasn't supposed for the PC simmer to hear it ?

The cockpit switches sounds, are very good and I even increased the volume a bit at the options.
ECS sounds, don't recall if I ever noticed them.

I will try this once I get to my sim PC and will leave feedback here.

[sLYFa]

No need to edit sound files. There are text files in the '\Sounds\sdef' which control the volume of the various sound files in-game. Simply open the sdef file for the sound you want to alter and set the 'gain' parameter up or down.

[Top Jockey]

Hello,

Thank you for the help, if it's the only procedure needed it will surelly save me a lot of work.

I'll leave feedback tonight.

[draconus]

@Top Jockey I hope you'll use it for the good cause

I may have said the sound is heard... in HB Tomcat. They made it under artistic license and as a feedback for the lack of feel of the G forces. Same with cockpit switches sounds. Realistically ECS (you hear it whenever the air source is in L, R or Both when engines are running) should be almost all you can hear beside the radio, ICS, Sidewinder, RWR and some warning beeps.

[Hiob]

4 hours ago, sLYFa said:

No need to edit sound files. There are text files in the '\Sounds\sdef' which control the volume of the various sound files in-game. Simply open the sdef file for the sound you want to alter and set the 'gain' parameter up or down.

In the main game folder or in the savedgames? I only found sdefs for the AB detent of the F-16.

[Top Jockey]

1 hour ago, Hiob said:

In the main game folder or in the savedgames? I only found sdefs for the AB detent of the F-16.

 

Main game folder :

C:\Program Files\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World OpenBeta\Mods\aircraft\F14\Sounds\sdef\Damage

 

I'm experimenting.

[Hiob]

11 minutes ago, Top Jockey said:

 

Main game folder :

C:\Program Files\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World OpenBeta\Mods\aircraft\F14\Sounds\sdef\Damage

 

I'm experimenting.

Seems, like some newer Aircraft like the Strike Eagle have the sound settings/files encrypted.

[Top Jockey]

6 hours ago, sLYFa said:

No need to edit sound files. There are text files in the '\Sounds\sdef' which control the volume of the various sound files in-game. Simply open the sdef file for the sound you want to alter and set the 'gain' parameter up or down.

 

After a little experimenting - thank you @sLYFa, it worked flawlessly.

Thank you also @draconus and @FR4GGL3 too, as the "hearing like in helmet" option also helped.
Possibly because it mutes the engines sound a bit, and therefore allows for a better perception of the airframe stress sounds.

Thank you also HEATBLUR for the flexibility others might not have - allowing a simmer to better feel the immersion in the module is paramount.

[martinistripes]

Does HB still recommend NOT to have "hear like helmet" enabled? I remember reading this (something to do with the way the modules sounds were recorded/engineered) but can no longer find the thread.

[draconus]

1 hour ago, martinistripes said:

Does HB still recommend NOT to have "hear like helmet" enabled?

They don't really get what the option is for.

The switches and other unrealistic sounds can still be heard in the cockpit and aren't in the correct categories so you can't use the audio sliders for that either.