missing info Mi-24 autopilot won't stay on - after new patch

[74th_Gryphon]

Hi guys,

I got the Hind in the Autumn sale and have been enjoying it and the Hip since! However since the last patch yesterday I have noted that when in a cold or hot helicopter that autopilot stability won't stay on like it used to pre-patch.

 

I think it must be a generator thing, because the sight keeps going on and off, along with the fan. The AP stabilisation also goes on and off (or doesnt even turn on in autostart).

 

I am not doing anything different to before, and my control mapping hasn't changed. So I haven't a clue of this new feature is a bug or intentional change.

Edited December 20, 2023 by 74th_Gryphon

[AeriaGloria]

Your rotor rpm is always above 87%? You might just be being too heavy on collective 

[admiki]

I don't see anything like you described.

Can you post a track?

[YoYo]

No any issue, alt hold and direction work still ok.

[MAXsenna]

"Autopilot" turns off when the generator goes offline, and you need to manually turn it in again.

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[DeMonteur]

On 12/20/2023 at 5:58 PM, 74th_Gryphon said:

Hi guys,

I got the Hind in the Autumn sale and have been enjoying it and the Hip since! However since the last patch yesterday I have noted that when in a cold or hot helicopter that autopilot stability won't stay on like it used to pre-patch.

 

I think it must be a generator thing, because the sight keeps going on and off, along with the fan. The AP stabilisation also goes on and off (or doesnt even turn on in autostart).

 

I am not doing anything different to before, and my control mapping hasn't changed. So I haven't a clue of this new feature is a bug or intentional change.

 

Thats usually the problem with handling the collective too roughly. Generators whent off when main rotor RPM goes under 87% and its shuts down the autopilot. You need to be more gentle with collective.

[AeriaGloria]

The manual warns you to raise collective 1 degree/second to stop rotor droop (rotor rpm decreasing). This usually works unless you have collective near bottom (1-3 degrees), you want to gently increase it until engine rpm is 90-95%, then you have more freedom to be rough with collective. In normal conditions you can pull 13-14 degrees without rotor droop

The engines themselves take 8-9 seconds to spool up from idle, and the governor only commands this when rotor rpm is below 95% (unless you mess with turbine rpm adjust.) So a other way to raise collective when it’s really low is just raise collective until rotor rpm is below 94%, then your engines will start accelerating 

[LuseKofte]

I actually managed to set #1 engine on fire by pulling the collective too fast 

cool dm modeling. But that was in a KA 50 

[MAXsenna]

I actually managed to set #1 engine on fire by pulling the collective too fast 
cool dm modeling. But that was in a KA 50 

Gazelle has the option to break the engine if one is not smooth...

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[LuseKofte]

57 minutes ago, MAXsenna said:

Gazelle has the option to break the engine if one is not smooth...

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I do like complex damage models even more than complex clickpits. Realistic boundaries make it feel real. That is why I fly very little msfs 

[admiki]

3 hours ago, MAXsenna said:

Gazelle has the option to break the engine if one is not smooth...

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Engine in flight and clutch during startup?

ISTR you could destroy clutch if too fast on engagement?

[MAXsenna]

Engine in flight and clutch during startup?
ISTR you could destroy clutch if too fast on engagement?

I have no idea. It's a special setting option. Might be explained in the manual why excessive movement breaks the turbine.

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