SauroHD Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 Hi everyone, I have a MB with Proc Ryzen 5800X3D and now I have 16 Gb G.Skill Trident 3600Mhz 16CL... I would like to upgrade with one of these options: 1) 32 GB 3600 CL14 2) 64GB 3600 CL16 3) G.Skill Trident or G.Skill Ripjaws (or other manufacturer)? I know that the 5800X3D does not fully exploit the RAM above 3600Mhz (correct?) and therefore I will not go further (if confirmed). So... better 64 Gb CL16 or aim for 32 CL14 to have something more? Price is not a problem... Obviously if you have other advice, even better! Thank you all!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucShep Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 (edited) One (among other) advantages that the 5800X3D has is that it's not as picky with memory timings as the non-X3D chips are (latency less of an issue). Even 3600 CL18 is fine. That said, the 3600 CL16 (16-16-16-36) kits (excelent Samsung B-die) are well recommended for AM4 Ryzen 5000 series, a family which the 5800X3D obviously belongs to. Also, 4 sticks of RAM on AM4 Ryzen 5000 series is up to 10% better performance, versus 2 sticks. So, for a 64GB total, the 4x 16GB kits are usually a better choice than 2x 32GB ones, for AM4 Ryzen 5000 series (different story on newer AM5 Ryzen 7000 series). The Gskill 3600 C16 kits, be it the TridentZ, or RipjawsV, or FlareX are really good. For example - 64GB (4x16GB) DDR4 3600 CL16 (16-16-16-36) 1.35V Gskill Trident Z RGB F4-3600C16Q-64GTZR https://www.gskill.com/product/165/166/1562839932/F4-3600C16Q-64GTZR Edited January 19 by LucShep CGTC Caucasus retexture mod | A-10A cockpit retexture mod | Shadows reduced impact mod | DCS 2.5.6 (the best version for performance, VR or 2D) = aka Luke Marqs; call sign "Ducko" = Spoiler Win10 Pro x64 | Intel i7 12700K (@5.1/5.0p + 3.9e) | 64GB DDR4 @3466 CL16 (Crucial Ballistix) | RTX 3090 24GB EVGA FTW3 Ultra | 2TB NVMe (MP600 Pro XT) + 500GB SSD (WD Blue) + 3TB HDD (Toshiba P300) + 1TB HDD (WD Blue) | Corsair RMX 850W | Asus Z690 TUF+ D4 | TR PA120SE | Fractal Meshify C | UAD Volt1 + Sennheiser HD-599SE | 7x USB 3.0 Hub | 50'' 4K Philips 7608/12 UHD TV (+Head Tracking) | HP Reverb G1 Pro (VR) | TM Warthog + Logitech X56 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SauroHD Posted January 18 Author Share Posted January 18 Thanks man.... You have confirmed my idea and so I think to proceed with 64 Gb 3600 cl16! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitMaster Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 You can try, if you like overclocking, the kit that I use, 3200 14-14-14-34 and set it to 1.48v and go 3600-14-14-14-34 Either way, I would only pick a B-Die module 3200 or faster, CL16 or lower. Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Asus 1080ti EK-waterblock - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus PG278Q 27" QHD Gsync 144Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joch1955 Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 (edited) 3600 @ CL 16 is the best bang for the buck and what AMD recommends for best performance on a Zen 3 Ryzen. That is what I have for my 5800x3d setup. The CPU cannot make optimum use of RAM over 3733 for technical reasons and the performance improvement of Cas 14 over 16 is marginal and not worth the extra cost IMHO. more info here: Ryzen 5000 RAM Guide: Find The Best RAM For Your Zen 3 CPU | Tom's Hardware (tomshardware.com) AMD Ryzen RAM scaling - performance effect in games (guru3d.com) Edited January 20 by Joch1955 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bossco82 Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 I ran a 5800x3d with a G.Skill 3200mhz C14 kit and I tried a 3600Mhz C16 kit. The difference in DCS and benchmarking was not in reality noticeable. I dont think it matters too much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SauroHD Posted January 20 Author Share Posted January 20 thank all... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DayGlow Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 If you want 64gb one thing to consider is using a program like Primocache. I used it create a ramdisk cache of your SSD(s). I find it makes a noticeable difference in performance loading commonly used programs "It takes a big man to admit he is wrong...I'm not a big man" Chevy Chase, Fletch Lives 5800X3D - 64gb ram - RTX3080 - Windows 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SauroHD Posted January 22 Author Share Posted January 22 Good idea, I'll try it! thanks DayGlow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkateZilla Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 in gaming CL14 to CL16 wont be visible.. in benchmarks... marginal. Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SauroHD Posted January 29 Author Share Posted January 29 Thanks everyone for the advice... I purchased 32 GB with the same characteristics as the ones I have (2x8 GB), same CL and model... the same in all values! I hope they can go together so I don't waste my 16 GB and in the end I have 48 GB... do you think it will be fine??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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