felixx75 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 Hi, Is the new iff simulation (added with the patch yesterday (22.02.24) only active if the new panel is also used, or is this also possible with the "old" panel? thx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solution fausete Posted February 23 Solution Share Posted February 23 Hi, The old panel only has modes 1, 2 and 3 available. Mode 4 won't work despite the panel having the correspondent dials. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kontiuka Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 I don't play multiplayer so I don't know anything about IFF. But what would an F-15E or M2000C see when interrogating a module like the F1 with IFF vs interrogating a module on the same side but without IFF modelled ... like an FC3 plane? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnomechild Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 4 hours ago, fausete said: Hi, The old panel only has modes 1, 2 and 3 available. Mode 4 won't work despite the panel having the correspondent dials. Is this just for the purposes of M-2000 to F1 interrogation or was mode 4 actually lacking in the real aircraft? I'm assuming it's just a DCS thing but I have read before that the F1M got upgraded Mode 4 IFF. I assumed that was just an updated transponder but now I'm curious if it was the first time it got Mode 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akiazusa Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 (edited) 1 hour ago, kontiuka said: I don't play multiplayer so I don't know anything about IFF. But what would an F-15E or M2000C see when interrogating a module like the F1 with IFF vs interrogating a module on the same side but without IFF modelled ... like an FC3 plane? When interrogating modules like Mirage F1,they can for example,only using IFF responds from mode 1,2 or 3,to find a specific aircraft ahead of them if the mode 1,2,3 code is known,or even an enemy one who left the code on their transponder to the default number and forget to turn off mode 1,2,3 on his IFF transponder before entering the combat zone since mode 1,2,3 is not encrypted. For the IFF mode 4 equipped aircraft,you have to set the correct encrypted A/B code and turn the mode4 to on,or people flying M2000/F15E can't using their iff mode 4 to tell if you are a friendly.( the one who is being interrogated will get a waning light/tone from the IFF transponder when this happens)(if your aircraft don't have iff mode 4, they can still use mode 1,2,3 to find you if you tell them your iff code) For F-15E/M2000C interrogating modules like FC3 planes,or even F-16/F-18 interrogating others,it works like a magic IFF mode 4,this IFF mode 4 is always on and it's A/B code is always correct,you will always get a possible return as long as the plane being interrogated is on your side,no matter what code is set in the virtual cockpit panel.The only thing you need to worry is to turn on the transponder and the interrogator during the cold start. And of course the mode 1,2,3 is unavailable. Edited February 23 by Akiazusa 1 Kyoto Animation forever! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fausete Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 hace 10 horas, gnomechild dijo: Is this just for the purposes of M-2000 to F1 interrogation or was mode 4 actually lacking in the real aircraft? I'm assuming it's just a DCS thing but I have read before that the F1M got upgraded Mode 4 IFF. I assumed that was just an updated transponder but now I'm curious if it was the first time it got Mode 4 It was like this in the real aircraft (otherwise we would have simulated it in the old panel). Only a few aircraft got equipped with the new IFF panel and crypto unit before the modernisation to the F1M (all of which were equipped with Mode 4). We didn't want to force such a radical change of look in the aircraft cockpit considering that only very few of them actually had the Mode 4 capable IFF and towards the very end of their service life. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnomechild Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 9 hours ago, fausete said: It was like this in the real aircraft (otherwise we would have simulated it in the old panel). Only a few aircraft got equipped with the new IFF panel and crypto unit before the modernisation to the F1M (all of which were equipped with Mode 4). We didn't want to force such a radical change of look in the aircraft cockpit considering that only very few of them actually had the Mode 4 capable IFF and towards the very end of their service life. That's so cool! What a neat detail. And yeah I personally really love the option and how it was implemented for maximum flexibility for players and mission makers 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fausete Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 Glad you like it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiGon Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 On 2/24/2024 at 10:10 AM, fausete said: It was like this in the real aircraft (otherwise we would have simulated it in the old panel). Only a few aircraft got equipped with the new IFF panel and crypto unit before the modernisation to the F1M (all of which were equipped with Mode 4). We didn't want to force such a radical change of look in the aircraft cockpit considering that only very few of them actually had the Mode 4 capable IFF and towards the very end of their service life. I'm not very familiar with the F1, so I have to ask: What does that mean exactly? As far as I understand you need a special panel in the F1 to enable Mode 4, but is that panel implemented in the DCS F1 as of now? 1 Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felixx75 Posted April 8 Author Share Posted April 8 (edited) 21 minutes ago, QuiGon said: I'm not very familiar with the F1, so I have to ask: What does that mean exactly? As far as I understand you need a special panel in the F1 to enable Mode 4, but is that panel implemented in the DCS F1 as of now? Yes it was implemented with the last patch, but you have to enable it in the special options menue. It then replaces the "old" one. Edited April 8 by felixx75 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiGon Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 33 minutes ago, felixx75 said: Yes it was implemented with the last patch, but you have to enable it in the special options menue. It then replaces the "old" one. Oh, ok, so in order to be able to activate IFF Mode 4 in the F1 you need a special panel, which isn't available in the F1 cockpit by default, but becomes available if you activate it in the special options? 1 Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fausete Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 hace 22 minutos, QuiGon dijo: Oh, ok, so in order to be able to activate IFF Mode 4 in the F1 you need a special panel, which isn't available in the F1 cockpit by default, but becomes available if you activate it in the special options? Yep, correct 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiGon Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 Got it, thanks! 2 Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCO489 Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 Hi, to be more clear about it, on the BE this one is the only one working in mode 4: This one despite having the same controls won't work: Is it right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fausete Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 Yep, that's right. It is the same for all versions (except the M) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCO489 Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 5 minutes ago, fausete said: Yep, that's right. It is the same for all versions (except the M) Thank you 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muffler Posted Monday at 05:05 PM Share Posted Monday at 05:05 PM В 11.04.2024 в 20:53, fausete сказал: Yep, that's right. It is the same for all versions (except the M) Hi! Does the F1M has interrogation function, to distinct friend or foe on a scope? As far as I know F1C and F1E doesn't. Am I right? VR Pimax 8KX, i9-9900KF, RTX 2080Ti, RAM 32GB, SSD 970 EVO+ 1TB. http://forum.aviaraf.ru Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fausete Posted Monday at 05:25 PM Share Posted Monday at 05:25 PM You are right, the M also doesn't have it. From what I've been told, adding an interrogation function to an old radar is not something easy to do. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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