fixed handcontroller not working in version 2.9.6 (Quest 3)

[MemphisBelle]

I´m having another issue. My Hand controllers do not appear but the Mouse pointer is locked to my hand anyways (not the hand controller). Even if I turn off the Hand controller its messing up my Cockpit interactions

 

[Hursta1]

So is ED going to do anything to fix this?  I guess we just have to forget the update until they fix it whenever that is.  This is very disappointing ED.  You roll out this big update that breaks the game for everyone using a meta headset and controllers.  Do you not want us?  I've spent quite a bit of money and would like to be able to use the product I purchased.  We shouldnt have to get some 3rd party app to get your product to work as advertised.  I can't believe you haven't responded.  

Adam W Hurst

Edited July 13, 2024 by Hursta1

[marosvarics]

Same here and also can't use HTC Wand, Trackers, Oculus Contorllers. IT IS VERY UPSETTING, that someone release an "update" without a test. I don't belive they tried it in VR and these worked for them. IT IS NOT an UPDATE, IT IS a DONWGRADE (this is a basic function, indipendent from modules, it can be test in main menu!!). I WISH I go back earlier versions! GAME IS UNPLAYABLE! EVEN in ST mode it has been meshed up. In ST MODE the "laser pointer" comes from the bottom of your palm!!!. THIS 2024 UPDATES FAR away from ED quality.... I 'm very dissapointed because earlier(2024) updates also had serial issuses with VR controllers but they don't give a s..t about it. One upon a time there was a company which was in first row in VR  implement in simulator and beat MFS and XPlane. No it's gone, they are better...( I can't belive that could be happen..) I stopped updating and don't buy anything from ED till it will be fixed. 

It seems  there is a new business policy: quantity beats quality. (No matter how many early access, unfinished modules there are, they need public more new early acces, unfinshed modules, which creates more and more chaos so they have no time, manpower to keep their ealier set high standard). 

[Hursta1]

35 minutes ago, marosvarics said:

Same here and also can't use HTC Wand, Trackers, Oculus Contorllers. IT IS VERY UPSETTING, that someone release an "update" without a test. I don't belive they tried it in VR and these worked for them. IT IS NOT an UPDATE, IT IS a DONWGRADE (this is a basic function, indipendent from modules, it can be test in main menu!!). I WISH I go back earlier versions! GAME IS UNPLAYABLE! EVEN in ST mode it has been meshed up. In ST MODE the "laser pointer" comes from the bottom of your palm!!!. THIS 2024 UPDATES FAR away from ED quality.... I 'm very dissapointed because earlier(2024) updates also had serial issuses with VR controllers but they don't give a s..t about it. One upon a time there was a company which was in first row in VR  implement in simulator and beat MFS and XPlane. No it's gone, they are better...( I can't belive that could be happen..) I stopped updating and don't buy anything from ED till it will be fixed. 

It seems  there is a new business policy: quantity beats quality. (No matter how many early access, unfinished modules there are, they need public more new early acces, unfinshed modules, which creates more and more chaos so they have no time, manpower to keep their ealier set high standard). 

ED still won't respond in any way.  I filed a support ticket that has been ignored.  I guess they left for the weekend after uploading a terrible update that has broke the game for so many users.  I even went and purchased that VDXR people were talking about and it still doesn't work.  ED you owe me 14.99 plus tax for that imo.  Fix the product you sell to people or expect people to find something else to do with their time.  This is no way to do business. 

[MemphisBelle]

18 hours ago, Hursta1 said:

So is ED going to do anything to fix this?  I guess we just have to forget the update until they fix it whenever that is.  This is very disappointing ED.  You roll out this big update that breaks the game for everyone using a meta headset and controllers.  Do you not want us?  I've spent quite a bit of money and would like to be able to use the product I purchased.  We shouldnt have to get some 3rd party app to get your product to work as advertised.  I can't believe you haven't responded.  

Adam W Hurst

 

It did not essentially break the Game for me. Just go the meta Quest settings and turn off Developer settings, that fixed it for me. Sure You cant use your Hands anymore, but that didn't worked well anyways.

[Ahdidaas]

Doesn't everyone know you don't release on Friday's for exactly this reason?

[Hempstead]

1 hour ago, MemphisBelle said:

It did not essentially break the Game for me. Just go the meta Quest settings and turn off Developer settings, that fixed it for me. Sure You cant use your Hands anymore, but that didn't worked well anyways.

Doesn't work for me. I had Developer mode turned off on my Quest Pro, didn't work. I turned it on, and tried. No dice. Turned off again and tried, no dice either.

[Tavilha]

11 hours ago, MemphisBelle said:

It did not essentially break the Game for me. Just go the meta Quest settings and turn off Developer settings, that fixed it for me. Sure You cant use your Hands anymore, but that didn't worked well anyways.

I'm on cable link and this didn't work for me either. Are you using cable link or Virtual Desktop?

Anyway, I started messing around with the hand tracking again and found something that's working for me. Under UI Layer in the controls setting, I set up a show/hide button for each hand, so that I don't lower the landing gear midflight or press any other buttons unwantingly, and set up a left and mouse button on my joystick. Still not perfect, but beats the hell out of letting go of the joystick to use the mouse. I can try and post a short video showcasing this tomorrow.

[Hursta1]

18 hours ago, MemphisBelle said:

It did not essentially break the Game for me. Just go the meta Quest settings and turn off Developer settings, that fixed it for me. Sure You cant use your Hands anymore, but that didn't worked well anyways.

So you say just ignore them breaking the game and make the best out of it?  No I am a paying customer of theirs.  I purchased the new FC3 and haven't played anything since the update.  We shouldn't have to fiddle with settings or buy 3rd party apps, it should work.  ED should have tested it before leaving for the weekend.  That's what people expect.  Do you work for ED?  Why are you responding to my post?  Why are you letting a for profit company get away with half assing everything?  This is EDs problem and unless you work for them and are going to fix your mistake I don't particularly want to hear your excuses.  

7 hours ago, Tavilha said:

I'm on cable link and this didn't work for me either. Are you using cable link or Virtual Desktop?

Anyway, I started messing around with the hand tracking again and found something that's working for me. Under UI Layer in the controls setting, I set up a show/hide button for each hand, so that I don't lower the landing gear midflight or press any other buttons unwantingly, and set up a left and mouse button on my joystick. Still not perfect, but beats the hell out of letting go of the joystick to use the mouse. I can try and post a short video showcasing this tomorrow.

Or ED the for profit company that wants our money for it's various products can fix it's base game.  That seems to me to be the best possible outcome.  

[Draken35]

3 hours ago, Hursta1 said:

We shouldn't have to fiddle with settings or buy 3rd party apps, it should work. 

Isn't Oculus a 3rd party app?  ... BTW, in the last 3 years Meta, has broken DCS multiple times with updates in their software, making DCS unplayable for one reason or another. 
If you are going into DCS PCVR you are going to be constantly fiddling with setting in multiple places, so better get use to it and have backups and plan's B and C...

What it is beyond me, is that none of the ED staff and closed beta users discovered this issue during testing. Hard to believe that none of them uses the hand controllers.

[TopoSolitario]

On 7/14/2024 at 12:25 PM, Hursta1 said:

ED still won't respond in any way.  I filed a support ticket that has been ignored.  I guess they left for the weekend after uploading a terrible update that has broke the game for so many users.  I even went and purchased that VDXR people were talking about and it still doesn't work.  ED you owe me 14.99 plus tax for that imo.  Fix the product you sell to people or expect people to find something else to do with their time.  This is no way to do business. 

nullThey answered my ticket, but the answer is just "go back to previous version" I think it isn't possible in Steam anyway...

 

[SgtButsy]

20 hours ago, Ahdidaas said:

Doesn't everyone know you don't release on Friday's for exactly this reason?

Never again!  This was the last time I patch on day one. The problem is, all the servers patch and I can't get to them not up to date.  BUT.....at least I can actually play the game I have spent a ridiculous amount of money and time on.  I wish they give us an friggin update.  Only thing from ED is hey, update is out, and buy FC3 2024!  All I want is my VR hand controls back!  

[Hursta1]

38 minutes ago, Draken35 said:

Isn't Oculus a 3rd party app?  ... BTW, in the last 3 years Meta, has broken DCS multiple times with updates in their software, making DCS unplayable for one reason or another. 
If you are going into DCS PCVR you are going to be constantly fiddling with setting in multiple places, so better get use to it and have backups and plan's B and C...

What it is beyond me, is that none of the ED staff and closed beta users discovered this issue during testing. Hard to believe that none of them uses the hand controllers.

Do you work for ED?  No then why stand up for a for profit company that doesn't care about it's customers?  They're not going to pay you to defend them here.  I've been using VR for several years.  This is the first problem I've had.  Unless you own stock there is no reason to defend a for profit company.  

Edited July 15, 2024 by Hursta1

[Draken35]

38 minutes ago, Hursta1 said:

Do you work for ED?  No then why stand up for a for profit company that doesn't care about it's customers?  They're not going to pay you to defend them here.  I've been using VR for several years.  This is the first problem I've had.  Unless you own stock there is no reason to defend a for profit company.  

 

If you did want users answers in a public forum, then you shouldn't have posted here kiddo...  And I'm glad you had been using VR for several years without issues... But since you are new to this forum I would suggest that you use the search function and/or browse the VR Bugs section, I'm sure you will be in for a surprise... EDIT... Well, not "new" , you have been around a few years here... But you don't visit often...

Also, seem that you have issue reading comprehension issues... No where in my post I defended ED (I actually expressed my disbelieve that this issue was not caught in testing!)  but I actually pointed out, that you are actually using 3rd party apps already... 

I will also recommend that you chill, your outburst and attitude will only give you an ulcer and will not speed up the fix ...  

 

Edited July 15, 2024 by Draken35

[Tavilha]

12 hours ago, Tavilha said:

I'm on cable link and this didn't work for me either. Are you using cable link or Virtual Desktop?

Anyway, I started messing around with the hand tracking again and found something that's working for me. Under UI Layer in the controls setting, I set up a show/hide button for each hand, so that I don't lower the landing gear midflight or press any other buttons unwantingly, and set up a left and mouse button on my joystick. Still not perfect, but beats the hell out of letting go of the joystick to use the mouse. I can try and post a short video showcasing this tomorrow.

 

[BIGNEWY]

Hi all, 

controller issues have been reported to the team 

we are looking into it

thank you 

[SgtButsy]

any guesstimate on when the hotfix will be available?  

[Hursta1]

On 7/15/2024 at 10:13 AM, Draken35 said:

If you did want users answers in a public forum, then you shouldn't have posted here kiddo...  And I'm glad you had been using VR for several years without issues... But since you are new to this forum I would suggest that you use the search function and/or browse the VR Bugs section, I'm sure you will be in for a surprise... EDIT... Well, not "new" , you have been around a few years here... But you don't visit often...

Also, seem that you have issue reading comprehension issues... No where in my post I defended ED (I actually expressed my disbelieve that this issue was not caught in testing!)  but I actually pointed out, that you are actually using 3rd party apps already... 

I will also recommend that you chill, your outburst and attitude will only give you an ulcer and will not speed up the fix ...  

 

 

Id suggest you mind your own business pal.  If you want to spend more money with ED that's on you pal.  I'll continue to express my extreme displeasure with the company that sells people modules for a game that can't be played.  Once again I'll never understand why some of you are so up the corporate rear that you'd tell paying customers that they should must be happy with what the get not what they pay for.  You keep up the fight for ED pal I'm sure they'll adopt you any day now.  

[Draken35]

7 minutes ago, Hursta1 said:

Id suggest you mind your own business pal.  If you want to spend more money with ED that's on you pal.  I'll continue to express my extreme displeasure with the company that sells people modules for a game that can't be played.  Once again I'll never understand why some of you are so up the corporate rear that you'd tell paying customers that they should must be happy with what the get not what they pay for.  You keep up the fight for ED pal I'm sure they'll adopt you any day now.  

Nock yourself out buddy, ... Meanwhile.. I'll continue to enjoy DCS 2.9.6 with with Quest 3 using the hand controllers...  

[Baron210]

Hi All,

After a bit of fiddling and rolling back in Steam via the Steam Downlooad console I have managed to get my Green Grey Gloves back, running a slightly older version. this doesnt allow me to use my purchased in Steam Flaming Cliffs 2024 however  Almost there, I'm sure the ED Team will release a fix soon then I can roll forwards to use my DLC as well.

In reply to the above, I cant get DCS to load in smoothly now, this definately loads in smoother in the latest version, but then I get the manky gloves (black ones with almost 90 degree off) lasers pointers.

I'm going to try swapping out a section of old and new for now, if this works, should provide a kind of fix before the new versions hot fix comes out ?  

Edited July 18, 2024 by Baron210
General edit

[RolltheBones]

Ill join the fun...yrd my hands have disappeared.....using Rift S

 

Im sure ED will be working to get this fixed. Until then using my mouse which is just about playable.

[BIGNEWY]

A fix is coming but we have to wait for the patch, other fixes are being tested for other issues. 

thanks

[RolltheBones]

Great stuff thanks

[Baron210]

To roll back Steam version (this is the only way I know how to fix this, bring back the Olive Grey VR Gloves that work) -

Step 1 ... search for Steam Console GUI Downloader. Install the EXE file, or I think theres a web based version of this, 

Step 2... Use these values for the previous download (the one that works),  223751_758395393767243837  APP ID = 223750  Depot ID = 223751  Manifest ID = 758395393767243837 

Select a save location mine took about one hour 30 mins to download despite being on a fast 1GB PS Download broadband connection. 

Once you have these files, delete your original DCS Steam installation then copy / paste these in same place/ (originals in C:\Program Files x86\Steam\steamapps\common\DCSworld, (yours might be different)? 

This will restore the previous version., I couldnt get my original FC3 installation registered until I merged the older copy because I bought mine from the original DCS site. but yours if bought from Steam should go in OK.

 

I find using this version messes up the loading a little i.e. it jerks around and slow to load in, but at least its playable in the end. 

This should be fixed. as ED rep.  said when the patch comes in a few days fingerts xxxed.  

TY for the best Mil Sim ever. Shame it breaks every few patches, but worth it in the end.   

 

Edited July 18, 2024 by Baron210
Spello

[SgtButsy]

21 hours ago, BIGNEWY said:

A fix is coming but we have to wait for the patch, other fixes are being tested for other issues. 

thanks

we talking a another day or two, a week, or a month?