REDFOR CARGO AND TANKER (AWACS) PLANE: IL76MD/78M MODULE FOR DCS WORLD

[NuclearHunter]

REDFOR CARGO AND TANKER (AWACS) PLANE: IL76MD/78M MODULE FOR DCS WORLD

After the announcement of the C130 in both cargo and tanker versions, it would be nice if ED would consider to develop a REDFOR equivalent for cargo and aerial refueling operations. This would contribute to a better ballance between opposing forces in DCS, and overall more possibilities for logistic operations in DCS.

Why is the IL76 base the perfect choise for these tasks in DCS World?

The IL76 is since the 70s in constant production and was delivered to many different nations like RUSSIA, CHINA, INDIA, PAKISTAN, SYRIA, BELARUS, UKRAINE,ALGERIA, IRAN, and many more. There the plane proved its reliability in decades of intense use in many different airforces. This makes the IL76 perfect for the most versatile military and civilian missions in DCS World. An IL76 Module could be use for aerial refueling (IL78) AWACS operations (A50/A100) cargo transport, aswell as cargo and paratrooper drops (IL76). The IL76 was also used on many of the digital battlefields we have in DCS World. This and the versatile capabilities make the IL76 perfect as a possible new DCS aircraft.

Data and system modelling:

I hope that because of the long production time there should be many diffrent documents and databases available for the IL76. The long production time is also conductive to modeling different versions of the aircraft, as its not necessary to use the most modern (likely) classified version for refference.

Edited October 4, 2024 by NuclearHunter

[MiG21bisFishbedL]

We have two problems with the IL-76 in DCS:

1. The A-50. Probably not going to happen, AWACS are very guarded in terms of radar performance.

2. Scale. An IL-76 is quite a beast. It has some impressive distance on it. I'm unsure of DCS' maps are big enough for it to be utilized fully.  I could be wrong, but if I'm not? There's still the An-26 or An-30, as well.

That said, flying tankers would be awesome.

[NuclearHunter]

vor 33 Minuten schrieb MiG21bisFishbedL:

We have two problems with the IL-76 in DCS:

1. The A-50. Probably not going to happen, AWACS are very guarded in terms of radar performance.

2. Scale. An IL-76 is quite a beast. It has some impressive distance on it. I'm unsure of DCS' maps are big enough for it to be utilized fully.  I could be wrong, but if I'm not? There's still the An-26 or An-30, as well.

That said, flying tankers would be awesome.

Right now we have a base radar model for the A50 in DCS (It could be used)

Scalewise i actually dont see any problems. (It should be roughly the same with the C130) we have very big Maps in DCS thousands of Squarekilometers wide. Kola is the biggest with more than 550.000 Squarekilometers. (There is no AN26/30 tanker version, also their cargo capacity is smaller.) The IL76 is right now one of the best matching aircrafts compared to the C130.

 

[MAXsenna]

It's a wishlist, and a good wish. I'll imagine we will see more when the global map drops. 

[grim_reaper68]

As far as i know, the IL78 is in DCS and able to deliver fuel. It has 3 drogues, but maybe only 2 of them are usable. As I couldn't manage to refuel at the same time with the 2 SU27.

 

Edit: I just made a test with 3 Mirage F1EE, in fact, only the 2 on the wings are usable. 

Edited October 6, 2024 by grim_reaper68

[NuclearHunter]

Am 6.10.2024 um 01:41 schrieb grim_reaper68:

As far as i know, the IL78 is in DCS and able to deliver fuel. It has 3 drogues, but maybe only 2 of them are usable. As I couldn't manage to refuel at the same time with the 2 SU27.

 

Edit: I just made a test with 3 Mirage F1EE, in fact, only the 2 on the wings are usable. 

 

Yes i think the middle basket is for big aicraft like the A50 AWACS or Bombers like the TU95 and TU160. They are able to refuel there.

[Gierasimov]

On 10/4/2024 at 10:10 PM, MiG21bisFishbedL said:

We have two problems with the IL-76 in DCS:

1. The A-50. Probably not going to happen, AWACS are very guarded in terms of radar performance.

2. Scale. An IL-76 is quite a beast. It has some impressive distance on it. I'm unsure of DCS' maps are big enough for it to be utilized fully.  I could be wrong, but if I'm not? There's still the An-26 or An-30, as well.

That said, flying tankers would be awesome.

With DCS Earth distance will not be a problem. Even in current maps, I am sure people will fly C-130 in DCS Channel map

[WizardLyric3130]

It would be nice to have an IL-76 or an IL-78 Cargo RedFor for the AAR. However, if the constraints are too many, it would be possible to put on the table the idea of an An-22 [(version A)? ]. The advantage is that it is a Turboprop "like" the C-130. The disadvantage is that it is limited to only three countries (CCCP/Russia/Ukraine) compared to IL-76 and it cannot do AAR or skydiving.

The turboprop range also includes the An-12 tactical cargo aircraft, which has served in many armed forces and can parachute nearly 100 soldiers. There is no AAR though. 

My first choice is obviously an IL-76 in DCS 

An-12: 

 

Edited November 1, 2024 by WizardLyric3130

[MAXsenna]

17 hours ago, WizardLyric3130 said:

Il serait bien d'avoir un IL-76 ou un IL-78 Cargo RedFor pour l'AAR. Cependant, si les contraintes sont trop nombreuses, il serait possible de mettre sur la table l'idée d'un An-22 [(version A) ? ]. L'avantage est qu'il s'agit d'un Turboprop "comme" le C-130. L'inconvénient est qu'il est limité à trois pays seulement (CCCP/Russie/Ukraine) par rapport à l'IL-76 et qu'il ne peut pas faire d'AAR ni de parachutisme.

Dans la gamme des turbopropulseurs, on trouve également l'avion cargo tactique An-12, qui a servi dans de nombreuses forces armées et qui peut effectuer le parachutage de près de 100 soldats. Il n'y a cependant pas d'AAR. 

Mon premier choix est évidemment un Il-76 en DCS 

An-12 : 

 

 

En anglais peut-être?  

[WizardLyric3130]

Yeah indeed, my auto translator had everything translated obviously ahah! Thank you for the remark it is corrected

[NuclearHunter]

Am 31.10.2024 um 15:46 schrieb WizardLyric3130:

It would be nice to have an IL-76 or an IL-78 Cargo RedFor for the AAR. However, if the constraints are too many, it would be possible to put on the table the idea of an An-22 [(version A)? ]. The advantage is that it is a Turboprop "like" the C-130. The disadvantage is that it is limited to only three countries (CCCP/Russia/Ukraine) compared to IL-76 and it cannot do AAR or skydiving.

The turboprop range also includes the An-12 tactical cargo aircraft, which has served in many armed forces and can parachute nearly 100 soldiers. There is no AAR though. 

My first choice is obviously an IL-76 in DCS 

An-12: 

 

 

I hope that they will not face any major constrains when considering to building a redfor cargoplane, because the IL76/86 would be definetly the better match (compared to the C130)

Edited November 11, 2024 by NuclearHunter

[NuclearHunter]

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