truebrit Posted October 15, 2024 Posted October 15, 2024 A slider or drop down box for cockpit mirror resolution would be amazing. Thanks. P.S. Is there anyway to do it now? Planes: A-10C/II - FC3 - F/A-18C - F-16c - F-5 - F-15E - F-4E Helicopters: UH-1H Huey - KA-50 Black Shark - AH-64D Maps: Sinai - Normandy 2.0 - Channel - Syria - Persian Gulf - South Atlantic Extras: Supercarrier - WWII Asset Pack PC SPECS: CPU, Intel i5 12600k | MOBO, MSI, MAG 760 TOMAHAWK | MEMORY, Corsair 64GB DDR4 | GRAPHICS CARD, RTX 4070 SUPER | PSU, 850W | Flight Stick, Logitech X-56 | Rudder Pedals, Logitech G | O/S, Windows 10, 64bit | Storage Drives, 2GB M.2 | MONITOR, ASUS TUF Gaming 2560X1440 180Hz
MAXsenna Posted October 16, 2024 Posted October 16, 2024 7 hours ago, truebrit said: A slider or drop down box for cockpit mirror resolution would be amazing. Thanks. P.S. Is there anyway to do it now? In the settings. MFD resolution. 256, 512, 512 every frame, 1024, 1024 every frame I believe. So 1024 is max. That's why it sometimes looks like that brick game. 1
truebrit Posted October 16, 2024 Author Posted October 16, 2024 15 minutes ago, MAXsenna said: In the settings. MFD resolution. 256, 512, 512 every frame, 1024, 1024 every frame I believe. So 1024 is max. That's why it sometimes looks like that brick game. I don't think it affects the mirrors though. A similar setting for the mirrors would be good. Planes: A-10C/II - FC3 - F/A-18C - F-16c - F-5 - F-15E - F-4E Helicopters: UH-1H Huey - KA-50 Black Shark - AH-64D Maps: Sinai - Normandy 2.0 - Channel - Syria - Persian Gulf - South Atlantic Extras: Supercarrier - WWII Asset Pack PC SPECS: CPU, Intel i5 12600k | MOBO, MSI, MAG 760 TOMAHAWK | MEMORY, Corsair 64GB DDR4 | GRAPHICS CARD, RTX 4070 SUPER | PSU, 850W | Flight Stick, Logitech X-56 | Rudder Pedals, Logitech G | O/S, Windows 10, 64bit | Storage Drives, 2GB M.2 | MONITOR, ASUS TUF Gaming 2560X1440 180Hz
MAXsenna Posted October 16, 2024 Posted October 16, 2024 I don't think it affects the mirrors though. A similar setting for the mirrors would be good.Well, what can I say? It does, whether you believe me or not.Cheers! Sent from my SM-A536B using Tapatalk 4
TKhaos Posted October 16, 2024 Posted October 16, 2024 (edited) 1 hour ago, truebrit said: I don't think it affects the mirrors though. A similar setting for the mirrors would be good. MAXsenna is correct, the cockpit resolution affects the mirrors. The reason it probably looks bad is you normally don't zoom in so far that the mirror takes up most of the screen. This is a comparision I have just done in the F/A-18C sat on the carrier, one is 256 resolution and the other is 1024 resolution, nothing other than that setting was touched. This is the 256 Resolution: This is the 1024 Resolution: Edited October 16, 2024 by TKhaos 2
draconus Posted October 16, 2024 Posted October 16, 2024 (edited) 8 hours ago, MAXsenna said: So 1024 is max. That's why it sometimes looks like that brick game. Yep, a higher option wouldn't hurt for high performance PCs. btw: the option change might need DCS restart! Edited October 16, 2024 by draconus 2 Win10 i7-10700KF 32GB RTX4070S Quest 3 T16000M VPC CDT-VMAX TFRP FC3 MiG-29A F-14A/B F-15E CA SC NTTR PG Syria
Hiob Posted October 16, 2024 Posted October 16, 2024 Just be aware, that mirrors in there current state already hit FPS with a ~10% penalty. Upgrading to 2048 e.g. (which I wouldn't mind as an option) would probably hit even harder. 3 "Muß ich denn jedes Mal, wenn ich sauge oder saugblase den Schlauchstecker in die Schlauchnut schieben?"
truebrit Posted October 16, 2024 Author Posted October 16, 2024 I have always used 1024 res. I can always notice the low res. We're coming up to 2025, I think we should at least have the option. 1 Planes: A-10C/II - FC3 - F/A-18C - F-16c - F-5 - F-15E - F-4E Helicopters: UH-1H Huey - KA-50 Black Shark - AH-64D Maps: Sinai - Normandy 2.0 - Channel - Syria - Persian Gulf - South Atlantic Extras: Supercarrier - WWII Asset Pack PC SPECS: CPU, Intel i5 12600k | MOBO, MSI, MAG 760 TOMAHAWK | MEMORY, Corsair 64GB DDR4 | GRAPHICS CARD, RTX 4070 SUPER | PSU, 850W | Flight Stick, Logitech X-56 | Rudder Pedals, Logitech G | O/S, Windows 10, 64bit | Storage Drives, 2GB M.2 | MONITOR, ASUS TUF Gaming 2560X1440 180Hz
truebrit Posted October 16, 2024 Author Posted October 16, 2024 11 hours ago, TKhaos said: MAXsenna is correct, the cockpit resolution affects the mirrors. The reason it probably looks bad is you normally don't zoom in so far that the mirror takes up most of the screen. This is a comparision I have just done in the F/A-18C sat on the carrier, one is 256 resolution and the other is 1024 resolution, nothing other than that setting was touched. This is the 256 Resolution: This is the 1024 Resolution: My screenshot in the op is in 1024, I think it would be nice at least to have the option for a modern res. Must be easy to implement? 1 Planes: A-10C/II - FC3 - F/A-18C - F-16c - F-5 - F-15E - F-4E Helicopters: UH-1H Huey - KA-50 Black Shark - AH-64D Maps: Sinai - Normandy 2.0 - Channel - Syria - Persian Gulf - South Atlantic Extras: Supercarrier - WWII Asset Pack PC SPECS: CPU, Intel i5 12600k | MOBO, MSI, MAG 760 TOMAHAWK | MEMORY, Corsair 64GB DDR4 | GRAPHICS CARD, RTX 4070 SUPER | PSU, 850W | Flight Stick, Logitech X-56 | Rudder Pedals, Logitech G | O/S, Windows 10, 64bit | Storage Drives, 2GB M.2 | MONITOR, ASUS TUF Gaming 2560X1440 180Hz
ShroomSister Posted October 17, 2024 Posted October 17, 2024 Adding my support for this idea. Mirrors hit my FPS drastically. I'd like to keep my MFDs at the highest quality (1024) for readability, but keep mirrors on Low (256) for performance reasons, rather than just disabling mirrors entirely. 3
Dangerzone Posted October 17, 2024 Posted October 17, 2024 6 hours ago, ShroomSister said: Adding my support for this idea. Mirrors hit my FPS drastically. I'd like to keep my MFDs at the highest quality (1024) for readability, but keep mirrors on Low (256) for performance reasons, rather than just disabling mirrors entirely. I'd vote for that too. Option to specify different resolutions for different areas such as mirrors vs MFD's would be great. Even if it was just a setting in the autoexec.cfg 4
Kuky Posted June 10 Posted June 10 I'd like an option higher than 1024 also, as I decided to drop getting VR headset with RTX5090 I have spare room for increase graphics quality and mirrors are good option. I was looking for a file to edit to add extra resolutions but I can't find it (don't know which file does it, if anyone from ED knows please let me know?). PC specs: Windows 11 Home | Asus TUF Gaming B850-Plus WiFi | AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D + LC 360 AIO | MSI RTX 5090 LC 360 AIO | 55" Samsung Odyssey Gen 2 | 64GB PC5-48000 DDR5 | 1TB M2 SSD for OS | 2TB M2 SSD for DCS | NZXT C1000 Gold ATX 3.1 1000W | TM Cougar Throttle, Floor Mounted MongoosT-50 Grip on TM Cougar board, MFG Crosswind, Track IR
GregP Posted Sunday at 07:33 AM Posted Sunday at 07:33 AM @Kuky In the options.lua, you can set 'mirrorsResolution' to 4, which is presumably 2048 (as 3 is 1024). On my system this does dramatically improve mirror resolution; the only downside is that whenever you go into the graphics settings menu after this, it resets it to 256 ('0'). 1
Kuky Posted Sunday at 07:44 AM Posted Sunday at 07:44 AM 9 minutes ago, GregP said: @Kuky In the options.lua, you can set 'mirrorsResolution' to 4, which is presumably 2048 (as 3 is 1024). On my system this does dramatically improve mirror resolution; the only downside is that whenever you go into the graphics settings menu after this, it resets it to 256 ('0'). Thanks for the tip however I don't see mirrors resolution an issue for me as now with new MiG-29A module mirrors look good even at 1024 settings but just for the heck of it I will try this out also PC specs: Windows 11 Home | Asus TUF Gaming B850-Plus WiFi | AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D + LC 360 AIO | MSI RTX 5090 LC 360 AIO | 55" Samsung Odyssey Gen 2 | 64GB PC5-48000 DDR5 | 1TB M2 SSD for OS | 2TB M2 SSD for DCS | NZXT C1000 Gold ATX 3.1 1000W | TM Cougar Throttle, Floor Mounted MongoosT-50 Grip on TM Cougar board, MFG Crosswind, Track IR
MAXsenna Posted Sunday at 07:49 AM Posted Sunday at 07:49 AM @Kuky In the options.lua, you can set 'mirrorsResolution' to 4, which is presumably 2048 (as 3 is 1024). On my system this does dramatically improve mirror resolution; the only downside is that whenever you go into the graphics settings menu after this, it resets it to 256 ('0').Can't the options file be hacked so option 4 is available, just like Ultra Shadows? Sent from my SM-A536B using Tapatalk
GregP Posted Sunday at 07:57 AM Posted Sunday at 07:57 AM 10 minutes ago, Kuky said: Thanks for the tip however I don't see mirrors resolution an issue for me as now with new MiG-29A module mirrors look good even at 1024 settings but just for the heck of it I will try this out also Interesting. I guess perception of mirror sharpness is probably related to game resolution; I run 7680x2160 on a 57" ultra widescreen monitor and even at 1024 the mirrors in the MiG-29 looked really jagged and blurry. But the jump to 2048 made them look almost as sharp as the rest of the cockpit for me. 8 minutes ago, MAXsenna said: Can't the options file be hacked so option 4 is available, just like Ultra Shadows? I wasn't aware that was possible, but it would be great if it is! Hopefully someone who knows posts here.
Kuky Posted Sunday at 08:16 AM Posted Sunday at 08:16 AM 16 minutes ago, GregP said: Interesting. I guess perception of mirror sharpness is probably related to game resolution; I run 7680x2160 on a 57" ultra widescreen monitor and even at 1024 the mirrors in the MiG-29 looked really jagged and blurry. But the jump to 2048 made them look almost as sharp as the rest of the cockpit for me. I honestly can't tell the difference between option 3 (1024) and 4 (2048)... maybe in other aircraft (like in FC3 MiG-29) it makes a difference, have a look at the 2 screenshots with the 2048 and 1024 option PC specs: Windows 11 Home | Asus TUF Gaming B850-Plus WiFi | AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D + LC 360 AIO | MSI RTX 5090 LC 360 AIO | 55" Samsung Odyssey Gen 2 | 64GB PC5-48000 DDR5 | 1TB M2 SSD for OS | 2TB M2 SSD for DCS | NZXT C1000 Gold ATX 3.1 1000W | TM Cougar Throttle, Floor Mounted MongoosT-50 Grip on TM Cougar board, MFG Crosswind, Track IR
GregP Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago Well this is very odd - I've found that, in both the MiG-29 and F-4, as I progress the mirrors resolution setting from 512, to 1024, and then to 2048 (via the options.lua), mirror image quality does dramatically increase. But if I then go back and try 512 again, and 1024 again - they seem to be 'stuck' at 2048, i.e. the image quality never goes back down. It's as if the mirror quality has somehow permanently been increased; or, alternatively, it was originally too low and has been 'corrected' by the options.lua change. Thus, I can't go back and see what my MiG-29 mirrors used to look like - they now look good no matter what. But to illustrate the difference, here's what my F-4 mirrors looked like at 512 - terrible - and then what they're 'stuck at' now - so much better. Maybe it has something to do with the high, non-standard resolution I'm using - 7680x2160?
Kuky Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago (edited) 1 hour ago, GregP said: Well this is very odd - I've found that, in both the MiG-29 and F-4, as I progress the mirrors resolution setting from 512, to 1024, and then to 2048 (via the options.lua), mirror image quality does dramatically increase. But if I then go back and try 512 again, and 1024 again - they seem to be 'stuck' at 2048, i.e. the image quality never goes back down. It's as if the mirror quality has somehow permanently been increased; or, alternatively, it was originally too low and has been 'corrected' by the options.lua change. Thus, I can't go back and see what my MiG-29 mirrors used to look like - they now look good no matter what. But to illustrate the difference, here's what my F-4 mirrors looked like at 512 - terrible - and then what they're 'stuck at' now - so much better. Maybe it has something to do with the high, non-standard resolution I'm using - 7680x2160? You are right, I just tried the 256 option for the mirrors and they still look exactly the same as with 1024 (or 2048) resolution. The option does indeed seem to be "stuck" to highest value. Edited 12 hours ago by Kuky PC specs: Windows 11 Home | Asus TUF Gaming B850-Plus WiFi | AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D + LC 360 AIO | MSI RTX 5090 LC 360 AIO | 55" Samsung Odyssey Gen 2 | 64GB PC5-48000 DDR5 | 1TB M2 SSD for OS | 2TB M2 SSD for DCS | NZXT C1000 Gold ATX 3.1 1000W | TM Cougar Throttle, Floor Mounted MongoosT-50 Grip on TM Cougar board, MFG Crosswind, Track IR
MAXsenna Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago Do you guys restart DCS after changing the option? Sent from my SM-A536B using Tapatalk 1 2
Kuky Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago (edited) 13 minutes ago, MAXsenna said: Do you guys restart DCS after changing the option? Sent from my SM-A536B using Tapatalk ah-huh! Bingo! You're right, changing the option then restarting DCS makes it change appropriately. Edited 12 hours ago by Kuky 1 PC specs: Windows 11 Home | Asus TUF Gaming B850-Plus WiFi | AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D + LC 360 AIO | MSI RTX 5090 LC 360 AIO | 55" Samsung Odyssey Gen 2 | 64GB PC5-48000 DDR5 | 1TB M2 SSD for OS | 2TB M2 SSD for DCS | NZXT C1000 Gold ATX 3.1 1000W | TM Cougar Throttle, Floor Mounted MongoosT-50 Grip on TM Cougar board, MFG Crosswind, Track IR
MAXsenna Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago (edited) 2 minutes ago, Kuky said: ah-huh! Bingo! You're right, changing the option then restarting DCS makes it change appropriately. Seems DCS doesn't automatically restart when needed after certain settings are changed. I saw someone else mentioning this, so it was worth asking. Edited 12 hours ago by MAXsenna
GregP Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago I could've sworn that I restarted DCS in some of my tests, but maybe not. Worth trying tomorrow night! 1
Hiob Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago (edited) People tweaking DCS for higher Mirror resolution, yet here I am - routinely switching mirrors off for performance and odd looks (not res. but perf.).... But nice to know, that you can tweak it jsut like the shadows...... Edited 36 minutes ago by Hiob 1 "Muß ich denn jedes Mal, wenn ich sauge oder saugblase den Schlauchstecker in die Schlauchnut schieben?"
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