Chemtards and their chemtrails

[GGTharos]

I would say wherever the strongest force takes it. what's the greatest force at 15 miles and above? earths rotation? polar attraction? solar bombardment? gravity? its Not the wind like it would be at 1000 feet altitude.

 

... you need to stop posting statements and suggestions that are untrue and based on nothing but speculation and go get educated on the subject. Like, now. If you do not want to do the latter, do the former anyway.

[hitman]

I don't get WTH you are even trying to say or how that relates to what i said?!?

 

So ions don't obey newtons laws. What does newton have to do with basic electrodynamics?

 

YGBSM, all you are putting forth is a bunch of half knowledge with which you seek to prove theorys wrong that you don't even understand.

I understand that when an object hits something, you transfer kinetic energy, correct? Are ions different in this regard? If a particle hits another, does it not have an effect? Im not referring to electrodynamics, Im referring to physics. How can you not see what Im trying to say here? An object in rest stays at rest until force is applied from an outside source, correct? You cant physically move ions? The earths magnetism cannot cause a flow of the ozone layer outwards from an impact source of foreign particles?

[GGTharos]

Start here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physics

 

Learning what physics IS is always a good start.

 

 

I understand that when an object hits something, you transfer kinetic energy, correct? Are ions different in this regard? If a particle hits another, does it not have an effect? Im not referring to electrodynamics, Im referring to physics. How can you not see what Im trying to say here? An object in rest stays at rest until force is applied from an outside source, correct? You cant physically move ions? The earths magnetism cannot cause a flow of the ozone layer outwards from an impact source of foreign particles?

Edited June 25, 2010 by GGTharos

[hitman]

... you need to stop posting statements and suggestions that are untrue and based on nothing but speculation and go get educated on the subject. Like, now. If you do not want to do the latter, do the former anyway.

What exactly is untrue with my answer? And who says Im not learning anything from this thread? I have reasons why I do these things, learning is one of them.

Edited June 25, 2010 by hitman

[winz]

I understand that when an object hits something, you transfer kinetic energy, correct? Are ions different in this regard?

Yes. The smaller you go, the weirder the rules get.

i.e. an electron can pass potentional barrier that has higher energy that the electron. (something that cannot happen in the 'big' world)

 

The earths magnetism cannot cause a flow of the ozone layer outwards from an impact source of foreign particles?

What has magnetism with meteor impact. Are you implying that a meteor get disolved to individual moleculs?

[hitman]

 

 

What has magnetism with meteor impact. Are you implying that a meteor get disolved to individual moleculs?

What Im trying to say is that when a meteor burns up in the atmosphere it is turned to dust. It stays in the atmosphere for long periods of time, and is influenced by outside forces, correct?

[sobek]

Yes. The smaller you go, the weirder the rules get.

i.e. an electron can pass potentional barrier that has higher energy that the electron. (something that cannot happen in the 'big' world)

 

It can, it's just not likely ;)

[GGTharos]

Ever seen volcano ash get influenced by anything other than winds? And those plumes reach pretty darned high.

 

What Im trying to say is that when a meteor burns up in the atmosphere it is turned to dust. It stays in the atmosphere for long periods of time, and is influenced by outside forces, correct?

[winz]

But magnetism have no effect on it. Iron dust are not ions, but solid pieces of iron composited mainly of iron oxides moleculs i.e. Fe3O4.

Earth magnetism is pretty weak, when we talk about the 'big' world (which iron dust is). How much force is required to stop a compass from truning?

[hitman]

Ever seen volcano ash get influenced by anything other than winds? And those plumes reach pretty darned high.

Not 15 miles high...that I can recall.

Edited June 25, 2010 by hitman

[Pilotasso]

They can

[hitman]

But magnetism have no effect on it. Iron dust are not ions, but solid pieces of iron composited mainly of iron oxides moleculs i.e. Fe3O4.

Earth magnetism is pretty weak, when we talk about the 'big' world (which iron dust is). How much force is required to stop a compass from truning?

So that leaves me with my earlier question...whats the greater force at 15 miles altitude and above? The troposphere is the uppermost atmosphere level, where there is no winds generated, and very little if any friction at all, right? I know 75,000 feet isnt the troposphere, but I say this because I know this is the altitude where the ozone starts, and extends another 16 miles high IIRC.

Edited June 25, 2010 by hitman

[RIPTIDE]

Not 15 miles high.

...15 miles and the rest...

[GGTharos]

Seriously, can you stop making uneducated statements already?

 

The finest dust of volcanic ash can easily reside within the stratosphere; most of the dust resides in the troposphere which is up to 12 miles or so. The stratosphere is above that, and HIGH ALTITUDE WINDS carry this fine dust around in the stratosphere.

 

 

So that leaves me with my earlier question...whats the greater force at 15 miles altitude and above? The troposphere is the uppermost atmosphere level, where there is no winds generated, and very little if any friction at all, right? I know 75,000 feet isnt the troposphere, but I say this because I know this is the altitude where the ozone starts, and extends another 16 miles high IIRC.

[RIPTIDE]

So that leaves me with my earlier question...whats the greater force at 15 miles altitude and above? The troposphere is the uppermost atmosphere level, where there is no winds generated, and very little if any friction at all, right? I know 75,000 feet isnt the troposphere, but I say this because I know this is the altitude where the ozone starts, and extends another 16 miles high IIRC.

There are winds up there depending on conditions and where it is (near the poles for example. And the athmosphere extends way WAY out beyond the stratosphere. Thermosphere, Exosphere, Ionosphere etc etc. There's loads of different layers and sub layers.

[hitman]

Seriously, can you stop making uneducated statements already?

 

The finest dust of volcanic ash can easily reside within the stratosphere; most of the dust resides in the troposphere which is up to 12 miles or so. The stratosphere is above that, and HIGH ALTITUDE WINDS carry this fine dust around in the stratosphere.

Ok you can stop chiding me on small nitpicky things if you know what Im talking about. So i get a few words mixed up here and there, doesnt mean I dont know what Im talking about, I go off on memory alone. Doesnt mean I dont know.

[winz]

Ok, one more time - Iron dust are not ions, but solid pieces of iron composited mainly of iron oxides moleculs i.e. Fe3O4. -

It is not attracted by either of poles, even not by a tiny amount. Its magnetic neutral.

 

The only effect of strong and prolonged exposure to magnetism can have on those moleculs is attaction of free electrons to one end, making it a temporal magnet. (the same way you can magnetise every iron piece, heck, this is the principle of hard drives)

 

(this is atleast the way I remember it from high school :P )

Edited June 25, 2010 by winz

[talisman]

[diveplane]

 

looks like a british rail train . =never on time

[sobek]

Ok, one more time - Iron dust are not ions, but solid pieces of iron composited mainly of iron oxides moleculs i.e. Fe3O4. -

It is not attracted by either of poles, even not by a tiny amount. Its magnetic neutral.

 

The only effect of strong and prolonged exposure to magnetism can have on those moleculs is attaction of free electrons to one end, making it a temporal magnet. (the same way you can magnetise every iron piece, heck, this is the principle of hard drives)

 

(this is atleast the way I remember it from high school :P )

 

No, the electrons do not move inside the iron, they just adjust their spin (the elementary magnets are arranged in the same direction). You are confusing it with induction. ;)

[GGTharos]

Hehe, so much physics, so much complication :)

[Boberro]

looks like a british rail train . =never on time

 

Polish trains sometimes arrive delayed hour-two. Normal situation about 15 mins.

 

And they speed is often 60 kph cause faster is too dangerous.

[Case]

Hehe, so much physics, so much complication :)

 

But so much fun!

[hitman]

lol!

 

I wanted to let this one run its course and see how far down the hole I could get it. It cost me my sanity, but hey. Heres the lesson for the day:

 

1. Never argue with idiots. :music_whistling:

2. When threatened by an idiot, just say "Whatever, ____".

 

Am I stupid? Nah.

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=38774

 

I had yall by the balls. Sooo...just fyi, I have osteoarthritis in my right hip, and Ive had a lot of free time lately because of it, so I had some fun at everyones expense! Lots of alcohol helped in the making of this derailed thread.

(^) ( *J* ) (^)

Edited June 25, 2010 by hitman

[asparagin]

For a minute you got us all fooled..