Alexrey Posted June 26, 2009 Posted June 26, 2009 I dunno if it's only ATI cards that do this, but I used to have an NVIDIA card before I got my ATI card, and now the highest shadows setting (full shadows?) doesn't work, everything just looks really dark. :( I was wondering if anyone knows how I can fix this, or if there is a fix that has been made. Hope you can help, thanks.
CHola Posted June 26, 2009 Posted June 26, 2009 No help there. All DX10 cards have this problem. Cheers, Cola Cheers, CHola
Roche Posted June 26, 2009 Posted June 26, 2009 I have the same problem with my ATI, Nvidia works just find. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Mustang Posted June 26, 2009 Posted June 26, 2009 I have the same problem with my ATI, Nvidia works just find. What card does do you use that runs full shadows fine?
Majesco Posted June 27, 2009 Posted June 27, 2009 (edited) ATI Radeon X800 series or X1600/ X1900 series, all DX9 cards run full shadow the best / My ATI X1650XT (full DX9C support) Edited June 27, 2009 by Majesco
Mustang Posted June 27, 2009 Posted June 27, 2009 Yep, my last card, X1950, ran shadows just fine.......shame about the latter cards :(
Aeroscout Posted June 27, 2009 Posted June 27, 2009 *cough 1.13 cough* DCS Wishlist: 1) FIX THE DAMN RIVERS!!! 2) Spherical or cylindrical panorama view projection. 3) Enhanced input options (action upon button release, etc). 4) Aircraft flight parameter dump upon exit (stick posn, attitude, rates, accel, control volume, control-surface positions, SAS bias, etc). 5) ADS-33 maneuver courses as static objects. 6) Exposed API or exports of trim position and stick force for custom controllers. 7) Select auto multiple audio devices
71st_Mastiff Posted June 27, 2009 Posted June 27, 2009 I'm sure they can fix this issue in the game...As I'm not going to unload my 3870's and place back my x1600 just to play the game... if this is the case of DX 10.1 cards and Lock-On not being compatible with HD DX10.1 cards. "any failure you meet, is never a defeat; merely a set up for a greater come back", W Forbes. "Success is not final, failure is not fatal, it is the courage to continue that counts", "He who never changes his mind, never changes anything," Winston Churchill. MSI z690 MPG DDR4 || i9-14900k|| ddr4-128gb PC3200 |zotac RTX 5080|Game max 1300w|Win11| |turtle beach elite pro 5.1|| ViRpiL,T50cm2||MFG Crosswinds|| VT50CM-plus rotor Throttle || G10 RGB EVGA Keyboard/MouseLogitech || PiMax Crystal VR || 32 Asus||
RvEYoda Posted June 27, 2009 Posted June 27, 2009 It's not a matter of a bug in the game afaik. What I heard is that DX8 does no longer support what some referred to as self shading. This is why ATI/nvidia didnt care to support it in modern drivers. S = SPARSE(m,n) abbreviates SPARSE([],[],[],m,n,0). This generates the ultimate sparse matrix, an m-by-n all zero matrix. - Matlab help on 'sparse'
CHola Posted June 27, 2009 Posted June 27, 2009 No it's not a game bug. I have DX9 on Windows and DX10 video card and still get screwed shadows. I tried to force Vertex Shader to older versions, but still the game draws shadows wrong. It's about DX10 card's internal shader's pipline structure which isn't compatible with LOMAC's full shadows. Cheers, Cola 1 Cheers, CHola
71st_Mastiff Posted June 28, 2009 Posted June 28, 2009 any one else having ATI issues and this game please send them a report.. http://forums.amd.com/game/messageview.cfm?catid=279&threadid=88116&enterthread=y "any failure you meet, is never a defeat; merely a set up for a greater come back", W Forbes. "Success is not final, failure is not fatal, it is the courage to continue that counts", "He who never changes his mind, never changes anything," Winston Churchill. MSI z690 MPG DDR4 || i9-14900k|| ddr4-128gb PC3200 |zotac RTX 5080|Game max 1300w|Win11| |turtle beach elite pro 5.1|| ViRpiL,T50cm2||MFG Crosswinds|| VT50CM-plus rotor Throttle || G10 RGB EVGA Keyboard/MouseLogitech || PiMax Crystal VR || 32 Asus||
lapster49th Posted June 28, 2009 Posted June 28, 2009 No help there. All DX10 cards have this problem. Cheers, Cola That's not true, because i got a Sapphire HD 3850 for AGP-Port. That Card do not have that problem if you use the Hotfix from the Sapphirewebseite.
71st_Mastiff Posted June 28, 2009 Posted June 28, 2009 That's not true, because i got a Sapphire HD 3850 for AGP-Port. That Card do not have that problem if you use the Hotfix from the Sapphirewebseite. WEll my cards are all PCIe cards and that does'nt help... "any failure you meet, is never a defeat; merely a set up for a greater come back", W Forbes. "Success is not final, failure is not fatal, it is the courage to continue that counts", "He who never changes his mind, never changes anything," Winston Churchill. MSI z690 MPG DDR4 || i9-14900k|| ddr4-128gb PC3200 |zotac RTX 5080|Game max 1300w|Win11| |turtle beach elite pro 5.1|| ViRpiL,T50cm2||MFG Crosswinds|| VT50CM-plus rotor Throttle || G10 RGB EVGA Keyboard/MouseLogitech || PiMax Crystal VR || 32 Asus||
Kuky Posted June 28, 2009 Posted June 28, 2009 lapster49th, are you saying you have HD3850 and full shadows work fine in LockOn for you? What video card driver are you using? Windows 11 Home | Asus TUF Gaming B850-Plus WiFi MB | AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D + LC AIO 360 | MSI RTX 5090 LC 360 | 64GB PC5-48000 DDR5 | 1TB M2 SSD x2 | NZXT C1000 Gold ATX 3.1 1000W | HOTAS Cougar+MFG Crosswind ... and waiting on Pimax Crystal Super VR headset & DCS MiG-29A release
Mustang Posted June 28, 2009 Posted June 28, 2009 (edited) lapster49th, are you saying you have HD3850 and full shadows work fine in LockOn for you? What video card driver are you using? I own a Sapphire HD3850 8xAGP and the shadows are as broken as any other DX10 card out there, ever since i've owned it. This topic has been beaten to death so many times lol :D heres an example of a past post regarding this glitch http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=41058 Edited June 28, 2009 by Mustang
Kuky Posted June 28, 2009 Posted June 28, 2009 I would think so too Mustang but seems lapster49th claims his HD3850 is working fine with full shadows... I hate when people make false claims and I am wondering if this one is like that... I'd like him to confirm and post screenshot if possible... otherwise he's getting negative REP from me ;) Windows 11 Home | Asus TUF Gaming B850-Plus WiFi MB | AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D + LC AIO 360 | MSI RTX 5090 LC 360 | 64GB PC5-48000 DDR5 | 1TB M2 SSD x2 | NZXT C1000 Gold ATX 3.1 1000W | HOTAS Cougar+MFG Crosswind ... and waiting on Pimax Crystal Super VR headset & DCS MiG-29A release
shaggy Posted June 28, 2009 Posted June 28, 2009 i used to ahve an Saphire radeon X1600 and that worked fine with lock on and full shadows. that was also an AGP card. i have no idea what drivers it was though. Intel Core i7-8700 3,20GHz - EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti SC2 - 32Gb Ram - DCS on 500 GB SSD - Windows 10 - Thrusmaster Warthog - Thrustmaster TPR pedals - Track Ir 5 - Samsung Odyssey+ [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] http://www.virtualredarrows.com
71st_Mastiff Posted June 29, 2009 Posted June 29, 2009 (edited) That's not true, because i got a Sapphire HD 3850 for AGP-Port. That Card do not have that problem if you use the Hotfix from the Sapphirewebseite. thats what u just wrote.. So wheres the pudding? :noexpression: I have found that even though the Sadows don't work so well, that if I turn them off I CTD alot more.. I turned them on full and haven't had a major CTD in about an hour.. Edited June 29, 2009 by Mastiff "any failure you meet, is never a defeat; merely a set up for a greater come back", W Forbes. "Success is not final, failure is not fatal, it is the courage to continue that counts", "He who never changes his mind, never changes anything," Winston Churchill. MSI z690 MPG DDR4 || i9-14900k|| ddr4-128gb PC3200 |zotac RTX 5080|Game max 1300w|Win11| |turtle beach elite pro 5.1|| ViRpiL,T50cm2||MFG Crosswinds|| VT50CM-plus rotor Throttle || G10 RGB EVGA Keyboard/MouseLogitech || PiMax Crystal VR || 32 Asus||
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KeyCat Posted June 29, 2009 Posted June 29, 2009 (edited) No it's not a game bug. I have DX9 on Windows and DX10 video card and still get screwed shadows. I tried to force Vertex Shader to older versions, but still the game draws shadows wrong. It's about DX10 card's internal shader's pipline structure which isn't compatible with LOMAC's full shadows. So how do you explain that I have the exact same issue with full shadows on my nVidia 7950 GT, which is an old DX9 card (happens with old driver 94.24 and newest 186.18 )? To clarify, this issue is not restricted to DX10/DX10.1 cards nor an ATI only issue, my guess it's something in the code and it would be nice to see that as well as the cloud shadow (flickering vertical grey bands on hills etc.) issue fixed. /KC Edited June 30, 2009 by KeyCat
Mustang Posted June 30, 2009 Posted June 30, 2009 Well, ED totally fixed the full shadows issue in DCS, lets hope that they can do it with LO:FC :thumbup: 1
CHola Posted June 30, 2009 Posted June 30, 2009 (edited) So how do you explain that I have the exact same issue with full shadows on my nVidia 7950 GT, which is an old DX9 card (happens with old driver 94.24 and newest 186.18 )? To clarify, this issue is not restricted to DX10/DX10.1 cards nor an ATI only issue, my guess it's something in the code and it would be nice to see that as well as the cloud shadow (flickering vertical grey bands on hills etc.) issue fixed. /KC As for your Nvidia problem, you CAN install drivers that work (as I could in X1650) and I never said that the problem was restricted to DX10 cards. However, I have yet to see DX10 (had HD3870, prior to HD4850) card to draw full shadows correctly (apart from some alleged hotfixes). As opposed to you, I CAN NOT install driver that may work, because older drives (which may work), can't actually recognize my GPU... Moreover, when I forced Vertex Shader to all older versions (from 1.0, above), the LO worked shadows wrong again and it shouldn't, since system diagnostic reported successful VS override and I actually had old VS operational. So the conclusion is that there's something mixed up with architecture and some DX9 drivers may have been adjusted for compatibility, while I didn't see any DX10 drivers to have managed to accomplish so. Edited June 30, 2009 by CHola Cheers, CHola
KeyCat Posted June 30, 2009 Posted June 30, 2009 (edited) Maybe I just missunderstood you then, not here to argue about it... Regarding older nVidia drivers. LO:FC is not the only sim I enjoy, installing older drivers will break other games/sims so for me thats not a solution. Anyway my point is that it would be nice to see this (and some other things) fixed for all of us and hopefully ED will be able to fix it. /KC Edited June 30, 2009 by KeyCat
Kuky Posted June 30, 2009 Posted June 30, 2009 waiting for 1.13 :) 1 Windows 11 Home | Asus TUF Gaming B850-Plus WiFi MB | AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D + LC AIO 360 | MSI RTX 5090 LC 360 | 64GB PC5-48000 DDR5 | 1TB M2 SSD x2 | NZXT C1000 Gold ATX 3.1 1000W | HOTAS Cougar+MFG Crosswind ... and waiting on Pimax Crystal Super VR headset & DCS MiG-29A release
Majesco Posted June 30, 2009 Posted June 30, 2009 i used to ahve an Saphire radeon X1600 and that worked fine with lock on and full shadows. that was also an AGP card. i have no idea what drivers it was though. X1600 is a DX9 card The ATI X1K series work well with full shadows in LOFC So how do you explain that I have the exact same issue with full shadows on my nVidia 7950 GT, which is an old DX9 card (happens with old driver 94.24 and newest 186.18 )? To clarify, this issue is not restricted to DX10/DX10.1 cards nor an ATI only issue, my guess it's something in the code and it would be nice to see that as well as the cloud shadow (flickering vertical grey bands on hills etc.) issue fixed. /KC Of course, Nvidia Geforce 7 series is worse than ATI X1K on full shadow settings My X1650XT runs LOFC at full shadows without any problem with many drivers from Catalyst 7.11 to 8.12, tested
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