Sunbather Posted January 5 Posted January 5 (edited) Currently, there are a lot of modules/terrains that will increase in price once they release in 1.0, e.g. Iraq, Afghanistan and Kola. I am wondering if we get a notice a few weeks before the 1.0 of a product releases, in the likes of "Last possibility to grab the XXX terrain at the discounted EA price". Or do they simply surprise release and the price goes up instantly? Edited January 5 by Sunbather F-16C || F/A-18C || A-10C || F-4E || Mig-21bis || M-2000C Syria -- Kola
MAXsenna Posted January 5 Posted January 5 Currently, there are a lot of modules/terrains that will increase in price once they release in 1.0, e.g. Iraq, Afghanistan and Kola. I am wondering if we get a notice a few weeks before the 1.0 of a product releases, in the likes of "Last possibility to grab the XXX terrain at the discounted EA price". Or do they simply surprise release and the price goes up instantly?Most modules are in EA for years. Sent from my SM-A536B using Tapatalk
Sunbather Posted January 5 Author Posted January 5 vor 3 Stunden schrieb MAXsenna: Most modules are in EA for years. Sent from my SM-A536B using Tapatalk That doesn't answer my question, does it? 1 F-16C || F/A-18C || A-10C || F-4E || Mig-21bis || M-2000C Syria -- Kola
Rudel_chw Posted January 5 Posted January 5 7 hours ago, Sunbather said: I am wondering if we get a notice a few weeks before the 1.0 of a product releases In the past, ED has never given prior notice. 3 For work: iMac mid-2010 of 27" - Core i7 870 - 6 GB DDR3 1333 MHz - ATI HD5670 - SSD 256 GB - HDD 2 TB - macOS High Sierra For Gaming: 34" Monitor - Ryzen 3600 - 32 GB DDR4 2400 - nVidia RTX2080 - SSD 1.25 TB - HDD 10 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Cougar Mobile: iPad Pro 12.9" of 256 GB
Sunbather Posted January 5 Author Posted January 5 vor 13 Minuten schrieb Rudel_chw: In the past, ED has never given prior notice. That sounds plausible. Thank you, Rudel! I'm going to buy the Kola map soon then, I have a hunch it is about to release into 1.0. F-16C || F/A-18C || A-10C || F-4E || Mig-21bis || M-2000C Syria -- Kola
YoYo Posted January 5 Posted January 5 3 minutes ago, Sunbather said: That sounds plausible. Thank you, Rudel! I'm going to buy the Kola map soon then, I have a hunch it is about to release into 1.0. Typically it is at least 2-3 years (EA), during which time the product is developed. Sometimes it can also take longer. As for the Kola map, you won't regret it, great map, even at its current stage! 1 Webmaster of http://www.yoyosims.pl Win 10 64, i9-13900 KF, RTX 4090 24Gb OC, RAM 64Gb Corsair Vengeance LED OC@3600MHz,, 3xSSD+3xSSD M.2 NVMe, Predator XB271HU res.2560x1440 27'' G-sync, Sound Blaster Z + 5.1, TiR5, [MSFS, P3Dv5, DCS, RoF, Condor2, IL-2 CoD/BoX] VR fly only: Meta Quest Pro
MAXsenna Posted January 5 Posted January 5 That doesn't answer my question, does it?No. I should probably added that you don't have to worry if you plan to get it the next few years. Sent from my SM-A536B using Tapatalk In the past, ED has never given prior notice.A better question would be if they ever give notice when preorders cease. Sent from my SM-A536B using Tapatalk That sounds plausible. Thank you, Rudel! I'm going to buy the Kola map soon then, I have a hunch it is about to release into 1.0.1.0? How come? Sent from my SM-A536B using Tapatalk Typically it is at least 2-3 years (EA), during which time the product is developed. Sometimes it can also take longer. As for the Kola map, you won't regret it, great map, even at its current stage!Exactly this! Sent from my SM-A536B using Tapatalk 1
Rudel_chw Posted January 5 Posted January 5 31 minutes ago, Sunbather said: I'm going to buy the Kola map soon then, I have a hunch it is about to release into 1.0. it’s unlikely, the South Atlantic Map is from the same developer (tough different publisher) and it is still in EA. 1 For work: iMac mid-2010 of 27" - Core i7 870 - 6 GB DDR3 1333 MHz - ATI HD5670 - SSD 256 GB - HDD 2 TB - macOS High Sierra For Gaming: 34" Monitor - Ryzen 3600 - 32 GB DDR4 2400 - nVidia RTX2080 - SSD 1.25 TB - HDD 10 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Cougar Mobile: iPad Pro 12.9" of 256 GB
draconus Posted January 6 Posted January 6 10 hours ago, MAXsenna said: A better question would be if they ever give notice when preorders cease No, they have no incentive for it. All discounts are for you to take the chance of. If you didn't - too bad - pay more if you still value the product. Win10 i7-10700KF 32GB RTX4070S Quest 3 T16000M VPC CDT-VMAX TFRP FC3 F-14A/B F-15E CA SC NTTR PG Syria
MAXsenna Posted January 6 Posted January 6 No, they have no incentive for it. All discounts are for you to take the chance of. If you didn't - too bad - pay more if you still value the product.Exactly my point! While we usually get hints on when there's a patch and if the module will be released with the patch. Last chance! Sent from my SM-A536B using Tapatalk
Raven (Elysian Angel) Posted January 6 Posted January 6 14 hours ago, YoYo said: As for the Kola map, you won't regret it That's debatable I for one don't consider it even remotely ready for regular use... Though that might depend on individual preferences/expectations. The advantage of pre-ordering (or just buying before full release) is indeed the reduced price, provided you are confident the final product will be up to your individual expectations. The Kola Peninsula is an exceedingly beautiful area (in real life), and given the reputation of the developer I'm reasonably confident it will get there - eventually. For me it's just not there yet... 1 Spoiler Ryzen 9 5900X | 64GB G.Skill TridentZ 3600 | Asus ProArt RTX 4080 Super | ASUS ROG Strix X570-E GAMING | Samsung 990Pro 2TB + 960Pro 1TB NMVe | VR: Varjo Aero Pro Flight Trainer Puma | VIRPIL MT-50CM2 grip on VPForce Rhino with Z-curve extension | Virpil CM3 throttle | Virpil CP2 + 3 | FSSB R3L | VPC Rotor TCS Plus base with SharKa-50 grip | Everything mounted on Monstertech MFC-1 | TPR rudder pedals OpenXR | PD 1.0 | 100% render resolution | DCS graphics settings
Sunbather Posted January 6 Author Posted January 6 vor 6 Stunden schrieb draconus: No, they have no incentive for it. All discounts are for you to take the chance of. If you didn't - too bad - pay more if you still value the product. vor 2 Stunden schrieb MAXsenna: Exactly my point! While we usually get hints on when there's a patch and if the module will be released with the patch. Last chance! Sent from my SM-A536B using Tapatalk That sounds convincing but is only partially true. There is a myriad of examples of Early Access games over on Steam that announced a price increase/end of Early Access beforehand so people who follow the product (but haven't bought it yet) have a last chance of buying the Early Access version. And those developers don't have an incentive either. Except - wait for it - keeping the customer base satisfied and prevent backlash due to a sudden price increase which some customers might find unreasonable. It also boosts sales since the 1.0 release might be a huge disappointment so it might be better to reel in the customers beforehand and gain some traction on the product before the 1.0 release. This is just an observation how Early Access works outside of the DCS microcosm. @all: Thank you for giving me, a mere aspirants, some insight into how things like Early Access are handled! F-16C || F/A-18C || A-10C || F-4E || Mig-21bis || M-2000C Syria -- Kola
MAXsenna Posted January 6 Posted January 6 @Sunbather I see your point. I don't use Steam for DCS. And I know there are issues with Steam "rules" for pricing. There have been posts from moderators in this forum regarding "last chance to pre-purchase, while modules have left Early Access without any notification at all. Which is another discussion on its own.Thumb rule. If you read the forums daily, there will be hints when a DLC is entering the SIM in the upcoming patch, and pre-orders will be closed. A product will usually stay in Early Access for at least 2-3 years. (I believe Syria was less, and I think the new maps will be less). A module will not ever be on sale in the year after it was released.Cheers! Sent from my SM-A536B using Tapatalk
sthompson Posted January 6 Posted January 6 10 hours ago, draconus said: No, they have no incentive for it. All discounts are for you to take the chance of. If you didn't - too bad - pay more if you still value the product. "No incentive" is too strong. There is some incentive, but perhaps not enough to justify an announcement. An announcement could push some buyers who have held off buying because they are undecided at the lower price, or are waiting to see how the module evolves, or just because they haven't gotten around to it, to make a purchase. Some of those buyers might not buy at all at the higher price. So an announcement of a planned price increase could increase overall sales revenue in theory. There is a tradeoff to consider. Lots of businesses pre-announce price increases as an inducement to buy now. I'm Softball on Multiplayer. NZXT Player Three Prime, i9-13900K@3.00GHz, 64GB DDR5, Win 11 Home, Nvidia GeForce RTX 4090 24GB, TrackIR 5, VKB Gunfighter III with MCG Ultimate grip, VKB STECS Standard Throttle, CH Pro pedals
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