Red_Camarada Posted February 21 Posted February 21 (edited) Hi everyone, its nice to see an improvement on SA2 and SA3 guide methods to an accurate model, but after the latest patch the kill radius of SA2 seems a bit bigger than it should be, is this correct? Some pilots stated that those SAMs tend to explode far from the target due to poor eletronics, does this mean that the plane will be destroyed? Edited February 21 by Red_Camarada
okopanja Posted February 21 Posted February 21 9 minutes ago, Red_Camarada said: Hi everyone, its nice to see an improvement on SA2 and SA3 guide methods to an accurate model, but after the latest patch the kill radius of SA2 seems a bit bigger than it should be, is this correct? Some pilots stated that those SAMs tend to explode far from the target due to poor eletronics, does this mean that the plane will be destroyed? So how heavy is the SA-2 warhead?
Mad_Shell Posted February 21 Posted February 21 5 minutes ago, okopanja said: So how heavy is the SA-2 warhead? Almost 200 kg. 60 meters radius kill seems totally believable to me 3
Hobel Posted February 21 Posted February 21 vor einer Stunde schrieb Red_Camarada: Hi everyone, its nice to see an improvement on SA2 and SA3 guide methods to an accurate model, but after the latest patch the kill radius of SA2 seems a bit bigger than it should be, is this correct? Some pilots stated that those SAMs tend to explode far from the target due to poor eletronics, does this mean that the plane will be destroyed? Kill Radius was recently increased.
FoxAlfa Posted February 21 Posted February 21 It has been stated that lethal radius of the SA-2 at higher altitudes is up to 250 m (~800ft). Big kill radius was a requitement due to lower accuracy. 2 ------- All the people keep asking for capabilities to be modelled.... I want the limitations to be modelled.... limitations make for realistic simulation. Arguing with an engineer is like wrestling with a pig in the mud, after a bit you realize the pig likes it. Long time ago in galaxy far far away: https://www.deviantart.com/alfafox/gallery
Moose_Jaw Posted February 21 Posted February 21 (edited) Hi gents, according to wikipedia: "the warhead has a lethal radius of about 65 m (200 ft) at lower altitudes, but at higher altitudes the thinner atmosphere allows for a wider radius of up to 250m" Wikipedia got also an impressive picture of an unfortune RF-4C getting caught in that blast. I also have some other docs available, however i do not know if i am allowed to post them here. Cheers Edited February 21 by Moose_Jaw 1
Red_Camarada Posted February 21 Author Posted February 21 1 hour ago, Moose_Jaw said: Hi gents, according to wikipedia: "the warhead has a lethal radius of about 65 m (200 ft) at lower altitudes, but at higher altitudes the thinner atmosphere allows for a wider radius of up to 250m" Wikipedia got also an impressive picture of an unfortune RF-4C getting caught in that blast. I also have some other docs available, however i do not know if i am allowed to post them here. Cheers Understood Moose, thanks for the info If you can share the docs later would be nice
AdrianL Posted February 21 Posted February 21 1 hour ago, Moose_Jaw said: some other docs available Before posting documents, be sure you have read 1.16 of the rules https://forum.dcs.world/guidelines/ If you are uncertain, then you can always ask one of the moderators directly i.e. @BIGNEWY or @NineLine 1
Solution Moose_Jaw Posted February 22 Solution Posted February 22 (edited) On 2/21/2025 at 8:05 PM, Red_Camarada said: Understood Moose, thanks for the info If you can share the docs later would be nice Hi Red_Camarada, Hi AdrianL, I am too scared to ask the topdogs of this forum and molest them with a permission. And I am sure they got far better docs than i got. Below some pictures of "telephone pole"-strikes and some links, send me a message if u aint satisfied. The S-75 / SA2-missile had a huuge Frag-HE warhead of 195 kg (430 lbs). The 2-stage (solid fuel booster and a liquid fuel upper stage which burned toxic TG02-fuel) missile itself was called "flying telephone pole" by the US pilots in the Vietnam theater. It had an accuracy of 65m (210 ft), hence the huge warhead. One SA2 system could engage only one target, however the radio command guidance of the missile system had 3 channels, therefore it was possible to have 3 missiles in the air against one target. Here is a nice pic of a S-75: S-75 Dvina A Thud being hit by a V75 over Vietnam RF-4C being hit by V75 over VN Another pic (National Museum of the USAF) Here are some sources: Персональный сайт - Главная История техники ПВО,ЗРК С-25 БЕРКУТ,С-75 ДВИНА,ДЕСНА,ВОЛХОВ.С-125 НЕВА,ПЕЧОРА,С-200 АНГАРА,ВЕГА,их боевое применение.Только документы и еще чу 0710weasel.pdf Operation Spring High: Thuds vs. SAMs Jane's land-based air defence Pls let me know if my post is against the rules or if my post or parts of it are bull<profanity>. I am only a pylote, eh? Cheers Edited February 23 by Moose_Jaw 4
okopanja Posted March 5 Posted March 5 Actually ot looks like there is actually a bug here but in opposite direction. It appears that the missile can get close to 40-60m to the aircraft, explode and not kill the target.
Red_Camarada Posted March 5 Author Posted March 5 10 hours ago, okopanja said: Actually ot looks like there is actually a bug here but in opposite direction. It appears that the missile can get close to 40-60m to the aircraft, explode and not kill the target. This happened to me once, but after a repair SA2 got back to its normal state
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