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Hi everyone, its nice to see an improvement on SA2 and SA3 guide methods to an accurate model, but after the latest patch the kill radius of SA2 seems a bit bigger than it should be, is this correct?

Some pilots stated that those SAMs tend to explode far from the target due to poor eletronics, does this mean that the plane will be destroyed?

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9 minutes ago, Red_Camarada said:

Hi everyone, its nice to see an improvement on SA2 and SA3 guide methods to an accurate model, but after the latest patch the kill radius of SA2 seems a bit bigger than it should be, is this correct?

Some pilots stated that those SAMs tend to explode far from the target due to poor eletronics, does this mean that the plane will be destroyed?

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So how heavy is the SA-2 warhead?

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vor einer Stunde schrieb Red_Camarada:

Hi everyone, its nice to see an improvement on SA2 and SA3 guide methods to an accurate model, but after the latest patch the kill radius of SA2 seems a bit bigger than it should be, is this correct?

Some pilots stated that those SAMs tend to explode far from the target due to poor eletronics, does this mean that the plane will be destroyed?

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Kill Radius was recently increased.
 

 

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It has been stated that lethal radius of the SA-2 at higher altitudes is up to 250 m (~800ft). Big kill radius was a requitement due to lower accuracy.

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Hi gents,

according to wikipedia:

"the warhead has a lethal radius of about 65 m (200 ft) at lower altitudes, but at higher altitudes the thinner atmosphere allows for a wider radius of up to 250m"

Wikipedia got also an impressive picture of an unfortune RF-4C getting caught in that blast. 

I also have some other docs available, however i do not know if i am allowed to post them here.

Cheers

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1 hour ago, Moose_Jaw said:

Hi gents,

according to wikipedia:

"the warhead has a lethal radius of about 65 m (200 ft) at lower altitudes, but at higher altitudes the thinner atmosphere allows for a wider radius of up to 250m"

Wikipedia got also an impressive picture of an unfortune RF-4C getting caught in that blast. 

I also have some other docs available, however i do not know if i am allowed to post them here.

Cheers

Understood Moose, thanks for the info
If you can share the docs later would be nice

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On 2/21/2025 at 8:05 PM, Red_Camarada said:

Understood Moose, thanks for the info
If you can share the docs later would be nice

Hi Red_Camarada,

Hi AdrianL,

 

I am too scared to ask the topdogs of this forum and molest them with a permission. And I am sure they got far better docs than i got. Below some pictures of "telephone pole"-strikes and some links, send me a message if u aint satisfied.

The S-75 / SA2-missile had a huuge Frag-HE warhead of 195 kg (430 lbs). The 2-stage (solid fuel booster and a liquid fuel upper stage which burned toxic TG02-fuel)  missile itself was called "flying telephone pole" by the US pilots in the Vietnam theater. It had an accuracy of 65m (210 ft), hence the huge warhead. One SA2 system could engage only one target, however the radio command guidance of the missile system had 3 channels, therefore it was possible to have 3 missiles in the air against one target.

Here is a nice pic of a S-75:

S-75 Dvina

 

File:F-105 hit by SA-2 over Vietnam.jpg

A Thud being hit by a V75 over Vietnam

Datei:RF-4C Phantom II of the 11th TRS is shot down by a S-75 missile over Vietnam, 12 August 1967.jpg

RF-4C being hit by V75 over VN

SA-2 Surface-to-Air Missile > National Museum of the United States ...

Another pic (National Museum of the USAF)

 

Here are some sources:

Персональный сайт - Главная История техники ПВО,ЗРК С-25 БЕРКУТ,С-75 ДВИНА,ДЕСНА,ВОЛХОВ.С-125 НЕВА,ПЕЧОРА,С-200 АНГАРА,ВЕГА,их боевое применение.Только документы и еще чу

0710weasel.pdf

Operation Spring High: Thuds vs. SAMs

Jane's land-based air defence

 

Pls let me know if my post is against the rules or if my post or parts of it are bull<profanity>. I am only a pylote, eh?

 

Cheers

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Actually ot looks like there is actually a bug here but in opposite direction. 

It appears that the missile can get close to 40-60m to the aircraft, explode and not kill the target.

 

Posted
10 hours ago, okopanja said:

Actually ot looks like there is actually a bug here but in opposite direction. 

It appears that the missile can get close to 40-60m to the aircraft, explode and not kill the target.

 

This happened to me once, but after a repair SA2 got back to its normal state

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