Any IA/SP missions OOTB for this map?

[imacken]

I'm thinking of buying this map, but don't want to get stuck in a South Atlantic situation where after several years there are only a few Heatblur missions available.  On that map, people said, don't worry the missions will gradually come after release. They didn't.

So, can anyone with this map tell me what IA and SP missions there are already on this good looking map?

Thanks.

(Yes, I know there is ME and there are some User missions to choose from on SA, but that's not the point.)

 

[Ramsay]

47 minutes ago, imacken said:

... can anyone with this map tell me what IA and SP missions there are already on this good looking map?

Searching in DCS's Mods/Aircraft folder shows there are currently 88 GermanyCW .miz missions that ED have added to their own modules in support of the new map.

Most of these are simple Free Flight and similar missions with 2-4 mission per aircraft.

Here's a couple of examples

Mi-24P

TF-51D

Yak-52

[imacken]

Thanks for that. Are there missions for popular aircraft like Hornet, Viper, F-4E, Tomcat etc.?  I don't have any of your examples above (except the unused TF-51 obviously).

[speed-of-heat]

Viper has a good selection of Missions , not so much the hornet and the tomcat ATM 

[imacken]

Thanks Stuart!  Hope you're doing OK!

[Ramsay]

4 minutes ago, imacken said:

Are there missions for popular aircraft like Hornet, Viper, F-4E, Tomcat etc.?

"Out of the box" there are only GermanyCW missions for ED's own aircraft i.e. there are none for 3rd party aircraft - I assume these might be made/added by the 3rd party developers themselves.

There are 3x missions for the Hornet and 10x missions for the Viper (note that not all of ED's aircraft have GermanyCW missions i.e. some WWII aircraft, etc.)

Example of the currently included F-16C IA Missions

[speed-of-heat]

4 minutes ago, imacken said:

Thanks Stuart!  Hope you're doing OK!

Yes Mate all is awesome in retirement! 

[imacken]

1 minute ago, speed-of-heat said:

Yes Mate all is awesome in retirement! 

I know what you mean!  Good to hear.

[imacken]

4 minutes ago, Ramsay said:

"Out of the box" there are only GermanyCW missions for ED's own aircraft i.e. there are none for 3rd party aircraft - I assume these might be made/added by the 3rd party developers themselves.

There are 3x missions for the Hornet and 10x missions for the Viper (note that not all of ED's aircraft have GermanyCW missions i.e. some WWII aircraft, etc.)

Thanks again.

In my experience, 3rd party devs don't tend to add much after release. I've never understood why the map devs don't construct more missions for their maps to make them more attractive to buyers.

As mentioned above, South America is the perfect example. I don't know what the sales were like, but I have not used it since the first week I bought it just after release. Missions were promised, but never materialised.  A complete waste of £60.  It put me off buying any more maps.

We're getting OT, so I'll stop now!

[MAXsenna]

On 4/29/2025 at 12:36 PM, imacken said:

I've never understood why the map devs don't construct more missions for their maps to make them more attractive to buyers.

Because that's not really the map makers job. People would get really disappointed if their favourite module didn't get any missions, and how many missions per module? Let's say 10. That's more than 300 missions, which has to be serviced and kept up to date when something breaks in the core. Just read through the campaign DLC forums after an update.

I do understand your frustration, and I was really disappointed and surprised when even Razbam, (yeah, I now know they only have their name on the map), didn't have a single mission for any of they're own modules. (The F-15E got some when it came). ORBX have actually provided five missions or so for Kola, but in their own site. Not through the game itself. Don't ask me why. But they did actively team up with BD and Reflected, so there are two campaigns available in the EShop. 

It's up to the module makers to provide missions, and I applaud HP for being best in class. I don't have a solution, but I don't think you're too worry about the Germany map. I assume it's already the most popular map, and will see tons of free and paid content in the future!  

Cheers! 

[imacken]

Yep, thanks for that. 

I accept that producing missions isn't the map makers job, however, it would clearly be in their business interest to make their map as attractive as possible to potential buyers, and half a dozen missions for the top 4 or 5 modules wouldn't be too onerous I would think.

Edited Wednesday at 01:17 PM by imacken

[MAXsenna]

Yep, thanks for that. 
I accept that producing missions isn't the map makers job, however, it would clearly be in their business interest to make their map as attractive as possible to potential buyers, and half a dozen missions for the top 4 or 5 modules wouldn't be too onerous I would think.

I completely agree with you! But unfortunately they just don't. Except, in a sense, for ORBX, like I wrote.
It's a daunting task making good missions. What I would do, is looking at the best/most popular free mission makers out there. Give them the map for free, or ask ED to grant them Miles or whatever, to make some missions. Module makers could also do this. I believe that's the problem. Making good missions is hard!

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[imacken]

Now, that is an excellent idea!

[speed-of-heat]

1 hour ago, MAXsenna said:

I completely agree with you! But unfortunately they just don't. Except, in a sense, for ORBX, like I wrote.
It's a daunting task making good missions. What I would do, is looking at the best/most popular free mission makers out there. Give them the map for free, or ask ED to grant them Miles or whatever, to make some missions. Module makers could also do this. I believe that's the problem. Making good missions is hard!

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I agree great idea, i can never get at the ORBX missions as it seems to be stuck behind some godforsaken app that doesn't seem to play well with me...

[MAXsenna]

30 minutes ago, speed-of-heat said:

I agree great idea, i can never get at the ORBX missions as it seems to be stuck behind some godforsaken app that doesn't seem to play well with me...

They made it too hard to get. You don't need the app, and you don't need to log into the site. Hold on.

EDIT: 

https://orbxdirect.com/product/orbx-kola-dcs-missions?sqid=5abf2aeebc807193f6e73ed0c6d311b5-1

Browse down to the different missions. Read until you find available here for each mission. (The link text doesn't look like a link). Then you get into the page for each mission. And then there should be a little more obvious as it actually says.  

"YOU CAN DOWNLOAD THE MISSION PACK BY CLICKING HERE!" 

I do believe you need to do it per mission, or they might actually come in a pack. Hope this helps! 

Cheers! 

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Edited Wednesday at 05:24 PM by MAXsenna
Added text

[speed-of-heat]

15 minutes ago, MAXsenna said:

They made it too hard to get. You don't need the app, and you don't need to log into the site. Hold on.

EDIT: 

https://orbxdirect.com/product/orbx-kola-dcs-missions?sqid=5abf2aeebc807193f6e73ed0c6d311b5-1

Browse down to the different missions. Read until you find available here for each mission. (The link text doesn't look like a link). Then you get into the page for each mission. And then there should be a little more obvious as it actually says.  

"YOU CAN DOWNLOAD THE MISSION PACK BY CLICKING HERE!" 

I do believe you need to do it per mission, or they might actually come in a pack. Hope this helps! 

Cheers! 

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WOW - Thank you! that is not easy to see! 

[MAXsenna]

WOW - Thank you! that is not easy to see! 

No problem! I really struggled myself when they released them. Even if I have an account, they should be easily accessible in my opinion. And they are, sort of.

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